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Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 06:18
by revporl
What do people think of this? TBH its what puts me off to going to fights at the MEN.
We take it for granted at the football and its seems almost expected that there will be a big (often football related!) brawl at the boxing these days
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41645611
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 06:22
by orbtastic
Hm let me think who is going to end up paying for that increased Police presence.
How about they address the root cause of the issue instead of trying to gloss over it.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 06:22
by Counter-puncher
Kalle calls for Police presence at fights... just not anywhere near the toilets
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 06:22
by kbackup408
Don't know about the fights but the police need to show their presence at kalles gaff
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 06:39
by Cyclops
Counter-puncher wrote:Kalle calls for Police presence at fights... just not anywhere near the toilets
Kalle will be able to circumnavigate the sniffer dogs on his way to his own private gold plated toilet anyway.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 07:39
by whiskey
Joking aside, it's right.
I remember seeing how a man took his wife to her first boxing show (Magnificent Seven possibly?)
And some Matthew Hall fans broke her nose when they kicked off after losing to Small.
Now if a man took his wife shopping, or for a meal or any other recreational event like a magic show or a comedy club - would her suffering a broken nose being acceptable ?
It seems if it happens at a boxing match, then it's kind of like "well it's boxing innit" attitude.
Hence a lot of people staying away from live events due to the drunken, coke-fuelled knobs and 'lads' that can't behave themselves.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 07:57
by rm1
Not a bad idea. Something has to be done or crowd trouble will ruin the sport.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 09:59
by TopGun
G0mez wrote:Joking aside, it's right.
I remember seeing how a man took his wife to her first boxing show (Magnificent Seven possibly?)
And some Matthew Hall fans broke her nose when they kicked off after losing to Small.
Now if a man took his wife shopping, or for a meal or any other recreational event like a magic show or a comedy club - would her suffering a broken nose being acceptable ?
It seems if it happens at a boxing match, then it's kind of like "well it's boxing innit" attitude.
Hence a lot of people staying away from live events due to the drunken, coke-fuelled knobs and 'lads' that can't behave themselves.
Was that the excel show where he came out in a scream mask, audley lost to Rogan? Small came and sat in front of me after he had that fight. How things have changed, he loves ISIS now.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:19
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:Kalle calls for Police presence at fights... just not anywhere near the toilets

or as long as they don't search his person.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:28
by lefty
G0mez wrote:Joking aside, it's right.
I remember seeing how a man took his wife to her first boxing show (Magnificent Seven possibly?)
And some Matthew Hall fans broke her nose when they kicked off after losing to Small.
Now if a man took his wife shopping, or for a meal or any other recreational event like a magic show or a comedy club - would her suffering a broken nose being acceptable ?
It seems if it happens at a boxing match, then it's kind of like "well it's boxing innit" attitude.
Hence a lot of people staying away from live events due to the drunken, coke-fuelled knobs and 'lads' that can't behave themselves.
I think I remember that thread on here.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:31
by Counter-puncher
lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:Kalle calls for Police presence at fights... just not anywhere near the toilets

or as long as they don't search his person.
"Police presence... but no fvckin sniffer dogs"
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:34
by whiskey
lefty wrote:
I think I remember that thread on here.
Security is often lacking at boxing events. One night they are wishing people a good evening as they leave after Ricky Gervais, the next night they have 10 lads on coke and ale all beating one another up.
They are at risk because they don't have enough of them to take on large mobs of lads at once.
Or they are lacking balls, are mainly females or don't get paid enough to risk a kicking.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:35
by boxingknockout
Counter-puncher wrote:lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:Kalle calls for Police presence at fights... just not anywhere near the toilets

or as long as they don't search his person.
"Police presence... but no fvckin sniffer dogs"
Well at least the police presence may stop some likely lads trying to steal Kalle’s humongous stash of Charlie
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 10:45
by lefty
G0mez wrote:lefty wrote:
I think I remember that thread on here.
Security is often lacking at boxing events. One night they are wishing people a good evening as they leave after Ricky Gervais, the next night they have 10 lads on coke and ale all beating one another up.
They are at risk because they don't have enough of them to take on large mobs of lads at once.
Or they are lacking balls, are mainly females or don't get paid enough to risk a kicking.
Yeah. I remember going to Froch-Groves 2 and I didn't see too much trouble; but at the same time, you could feel the tension in the air. It felt like it could kick off at any moment. I got a coach back that night and there was some coked up fellas on the journey aswell. They were big guys aswell. If it had kicked off, we would have been brown bread lol.
Boxing events don't exactly produce a family friendly environment. I prefer watching on TV to be honest.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 11:07
by whiskey
lefty wrote:G0mez wrote:lefty wrote:
I think I remember that thread on here.
Security is often lacking at boxing events. One night they are wishing people a good evening as they leave after Ricky Gervais, the next night they have 10 lads on coke and ale all beating one another up.
They are at risk because they don't have enough of them to take on large mobs of lads at once.
Or they are lacking balls, are mainly females or don't get paid enough to risk a kicking.
Yeah. I remember going to Froch-Groves 2 and I didn't see too much trouble; but at the same time, you could feel the tension in the air. It felt like it could kick off at any moment. I got a coach back that night and there was some coked up fellas on the journey aswell. They were big guys aswell. If it had kicked off, we would have been brown bread lol.
Boxing events don't exactly produce a family friendly environment. I prefer watching on TV to be honest.
Rob McCracken once told me (name dropping here) that the TV was the best seat in the house. The angles, replays etc are miles ahead of being static in one position.
Whilst you can never capture the atmosphere of real fight, a group of friends with a big screen and volume up full is as close as it gets, but much cheaper and no hassle getting home afterwards.
I'd love a big garden, with a big stack of speakers, some booze, food and good friends round - and one of these bad boys with a projector showing it:

Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 11:09
by lefty
G0mez wrote:lefty wrote:G0mez wrote:
Security is often lacking at boxing events. One night they are wishing people a good evening as they leave after Ricky Gervais, the next night they have 10 lads on coke and ale all beating one another up.
They are at risk because they don't have enough of them to take on large mobs of lads at once.
Or they are lacking balls, are mainly females or don't get paid enough to risk a kicking.
Yeah. I remember going to Froch-Groves 2 and I didn't see too much trouble; but at the same time, you could feel the tension in the air. It felt like it could kick off at any moment. I got a coach back that night and there was some coked up fellas on the journey aswell. They were big guys aswell. If it had kicked off, we would have been brown bread lol.
Boxing events don't exactly produce a family friendly environment. I prefer watching on TV to be honest.
Rob McCracken once told me (name dropping here) that the TV was the best seat in the house. The angles, replays etc are miles ahead of being static in one position.
Whilst you can never capture the atmosphere of real fight, a group of friends with a big screen and volume up full is as close as it gets, but much cheaper and no hassle getting home afterwards.
I'd love a big garden, with a big stack of speakers, some booze, food and good friends round - and one of these bad boys with a projector showing it:

That looks perfect lol.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 11:21
by Cyclops
There has always been some sort of trouble at events as long as I can remember (my first being Haye-maccarinelli) and I thought the problem, initially, was that because you weren't allowed to take beers into the stands people were just getting tanked up before going to the seats, making sure they were pissed enough and overdoing it. It seemed a welcome relief to be allowed pints in the stands.
Cocaine is fairly endemic in Britain, too. For the under 40's (and no offence to the older coke heads on the forum) this is pretty standard "blokes night out" stuff, to get pissed up and get on the gear. Combine it with the testosterone fuelled atmosphere of a boxing match and people naturally become more aggressive. I'm not sure over zealous searching and dogs will curb that: I don't go to festivals any more but there are dogs and searches there and everyone is still pilled up. You can't stop it.
I think a proper security presence is what's required, and as I have never seen an adequate or properly equipped security firm at a boxing match ever. What would be a very good idea is what they do with Glastonbury now, where you have your own ticket with your name and your face on it so they know who everyone is. Couple that with mandatory ID, so if your ID doesn't match your ticket then you don't get in, then trouble makers could be identified and banned from attending subsequent events. This would be an incentive for the dickheads to behave themselves and also serve as a brilliant way of killing off the horrible touting scourge we have at matches these days, where if you want to get a ticket you have to pay way over the odds. If this was the case then a lot of us that had wanted to go and see recent big fights and couldn't get tickets would have been able to go no problem.
Unfortunately there's too much money being made by stubhub and the like for the above to happen.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 11:23
by Counter-puncher
clopixolacuphase wrote:
Unfortunately there's too much money being made by stubhub and the like for the above to happen.
#EARNWITHHEARN
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 12:18
by tony1234
Just ban all alcohol sales, ban anyone trying to enter under the influence of drink or drugs and have sniffer dogs at the entrances . Would stop the bother straightaway , I expect if trouble continues they may have to take the same steps as they do at football
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 12:48
by SAPFO
People just would not go if they could get wasted. Half the security, and employ the police with cameras like they do when 2 football firms clash. Obviously they have to come to an agreement with the old bill that don't rip the promoter off, but still allows the public to gather in relative safety. People just behave differently when the old bill are there.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 12:50
by SAPFO
G0mez wrote:Joking aside, it's right.
I remember seeing how a man took his wife to her first boxing show (Magnificent Seven possibly?)
And some Matthew Hall fans broke her nose when they kicked off after losing to Small.
Now if a man took his wife shopping, or for a meal or any other recreational event like a magic show or a comedy club - would her suffering a broken nose being acceptable ?
It seems if it happens at a boxing match, then it's kind of like "well it's boxing innit" attitude.
Hence a lot of people staying away from live events due to the drunken, coke-fuelled knobs and 'lads' that can't behave themselves.
And that bloke also steamed in and got KTFO. I think the whole arena saw that and let out a big "OOOOOOooooooo". Welsh were pissing in the sinks, and generally doing what pissed up Welsh do.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 12:50
by chrisnew86
tony1234 wrote:Just ban all alcohol sales, ban anyone trying to enter under the influence of drink or drugs and have sniffer dogs at the entrances . Would stop the bother straightaway , I expect if trouble continues they may have to take the same steps as they do at football
Mate this is England not Saudi Arabia,
Ban all alcohol sales because 20-30 dickheads can’t behave themselves ?
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 15:18
by Cyclops
tony1234 wrote:Just ban all alcohol sales, ban anyone trying to enter under the influence of drink or drugs and have sniffer dogs at the entrances . Would stop the bother straightaway , I expect if trouble continues they may have to take the same steps as they do at football
Well you sound like a barrel of laughs.
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 15:35
by KiwiRider
tony1234 wrote:Just ban all alcohol sales, ban anyone trying to enter under the influence of drink or drugs and have sniffer dogs at the entrances . Would stop the bother straightaway , I expect if trouble continues they may have to take the same steps as they do at football
Talk about fun police..
Or alternatively issue everyone with a gram of coke, a 40 of Jack and a chiv?
Re: Kalle Sauerland calls for police presence at fights
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 15:35
by Coco
I wouldn't take my missus to a big public show, I'm not sure how keen I would be myself