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Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 16:52
by BitPlayer
84 wins, 70 by KO.(Plus news fights)
World champion at welterweight, and middleweight
3 losses, but one was a newspaper loss against a heavyweight when he was 41. The other was a 15th round stopage against Charles Kid McCoy, a great fighter, in his own right, and that whole fight was basically a trap where Ryan didn't train properly and thought it was going to be an easy fight for a quick payday. The only other loss was a DQ.
Fought to 20 rounds and beyond, even to round 76 in one case.
Re: Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 17:04
by Tomasino
BitPlayer wrote:84 wins, 70 by KO.(Plus news fights)
World champion at welterweight, and middleweight
3 losses, but one was a newspaper loss against a heavyweight when he was 41. The other was a 15th round stopage against Charles Kid McCoy, a great fighter, in his own right, and that whole fight was basically a trap where Ryan didn't train properly and thought it was going to be an easy fight for a quick payday. The only other loss was a DQ.
Fought to 20 rounds and beyond, even to round 76 in one case.
Certainly an ATG. Another guy who is difficult to assess by eye but who was dominant in his era. I’ve read a lot of articles that he apparently wrote and he had a very tough career. Very. One of my favourite old timers
Re: Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 21 Oct 2017, 05:18
by Bladder
Looking forward to the biography on Tommy Ryan, should be a great read.
Re: Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 21 Oct 2017, 05:19
by Tomasino
Bladder wrote:Looking forward to the biography on Tommy Ryan, should be a great read.
When is it out? Whose writing it?
Re: Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 21 Oct 2017, 05:47
by Bladder
Tomasino wrote:Bladder wrote:Looking forward to the biography on Tommy Ryan, should be a great read.
When is it out? Whose writing it?
Don't know when it's out but it's being written by Chris LaForce who wrote the excellent biography on Joe Choynski. If it's anything like the Choynski biography, it will be worth the wait.
Re: Is Tommy Ryan underrated?
Posted: 21 Oct 2017, 09:40
by Tomasino
Bladder wrote:Tomasino wrote:Bladder wrote:Looking forward to the biography on Tommy Ryan, should be a great read.
When is it out? Whose writing it?
Don't know when it's out but it's being written by Chris LaForce who wrote the excellent biography on Joe Choynski. If it's anything like the Choynski biography, it will be worth the wait.
Cheers I will keep an eye out for it.