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“In a career, it’s all good going undefeated and looking good,” Joshua said. “But when it’s all said and done, how are people gonna remember you? He hasn’t had any memorable fights. There’s nothing I can tell you and say, ‘Oh, do you remember Deontay Wilder’s 29th fight? That was an unbelievable heavyweight fight!’ Do you know what I mean?

“So he needs a real remarkable fight to really stamp his name in the history of heavyweight boxing. That’s why I say he needs it a little bit more [than me] right now. And especially being in America, especially, this is the Mecca of boxing. I even need it. I need Wilder to have this remarkable fight. I need to be the one to kind of step up and make this dream reality. This is where I’m coming from. I would be honored to travel to America to compete with Wilder.”

“All it is with Wilder, I just look at it like this – and these are just conversations that I have with my pals and stuff,” Joshua said. “That guy’s been a professional since 2009. I started boxing in 2008. He’s been professional a year [less] than I’ve been boxing my whole career. So where I’m coming from is that he needs these fights. He wants to kind of – he’s had 38 fights. He’s already on the verge of competing with Floyd Mayweather’s record. Do you know where I’m coming from? He needs these fights. It’s a different ball game.

“The only thing that gives me credibility is the fact that I’ve gone and unified the division [against Klitschko]. This is good. And this is why I say that he doesn’t need to have a remarkable performance or fight a household name or whatnot to make this fight happen, because he’s been doing his thing for so long. But I think the reason why he’s more desperate is because the boxing fans are calling out, ‘Wilder, what are you doing? You haven’t fought X and X and X and X. So who’s the next person on the list?’ 50 Cent says it best – attach your name to the best brand in business and people will listen. So he’s just calling me out because he knows I’m the hot cake in the business right now. He’s just doing what any businessman would do.”



Joshua is speaking the truth. Wilder has to fight someone notable. The big problem is WHO ? I don't see nobody notable than Joshua. Maybe Tyson Fury if he comes back in top shape or Parker ?

There were plenty of suitable birds on the wire but the best ones (Klitschko, Tyson,) have flown off or (Povetkin and Ortiz) fallen off their perch and are lying on their backs in the road, and another (Haye) has lost most of his plumage. Those remaining (Parker, Pulev,Whyte, Breazeale,and Miller) are smaller and their feathers are not as colourful.

The early worm catches the bird or something like that.

I'd love to see AJ fighting Povetkin next, that would be an awesome fight! Povetkin is still and by far, the best active heavyweight of this century, the current rank two of the heavyweight division. There's a reason Wilder is and was so scared of him. I hope Wilder soon fights a serious English name, Joyce, Dubois, Whyte, name them, then AJ can fight him after Ortiz and Povetkin, while Wilder can hold his battle of the dopers against Stiverne, and fight an English guy or/and Parker.

Badhusker wrote:

What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

punchoutsb wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

asdfjkl wrote:I'd love to see AJ fighting Povetkin next, that would be an awesome fight! Povetkin is still and by far, the best active heavyweight of this century, the current rank two of the heavyweight division. There's a reason Wilder is and was so scared of him. I hope Wilder soon fights a serious English name, Joyce, Dubois, Whyte, name them, then AJ can fight him after Ortiz and Povetkin, while Wilder can hold his battle of the dopers against Stiverne, and fight an English guy or/and Parker.

AJ would spark PEDvetkin.

tiny_acres wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

Breazeale and Molina didn't demand 50/50 splits. It's pretty simple, if Wilder (or Parker) truly will only fight for 50/50 then they will need to bring much more to the table than they currently are.

punchoutsb wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

Breazeale and Molina didn't demand 50/50 splits. It's pretty simple, if Wilder (or Parker) truly will only fight for 50/50 then they will need to bring much more to the table than they currently are.

Breazeale was dureble and Molina was there so you can compare AJ with Wilder a bit. Which also shows why Wilder doesn't fight anyone AJ struggles with. Yea, together with his team they attack Breazeale his wife maybe, but that's it.

apollo creed wrote:Joshua is speaking the truth. Wilder has to fight someone notable. The big problem is WHO ? I don't see nobody notable than Joshua. Maybe Tyson Fury if he comes back in top shape or Parker ?

He has to fight somebody with real skills: Haye... Oritiz... Povetkin... Parker... Miller... Rivas... It doesn't matter who it is.. It matters if they actually have skills and arrive in great physical condition looking and talking like a polished professional -- and NOT looking fat and wasted, with a mop for hair, like Stiverne did.

Wilder has to learn how to talk, act, and present himself.. Joshua talks, looks, and acts like a gentleman.. Klitschko talked, looked, and behaved like a gentleman -- so when they fought people cared about them and the whole world paid attention -- and it was the biggest fight in MANY, MANY years.

Why wasn't Klitschko vs Fury a great big fight??? ... Because Fury was such a trash mouth everybody disliked him and underrated him.. It's great to be a brilliant trash talker like McGregor and Mayweather.. 99.99% of people can never get a circus atmosphere going like them.. That's Evel Knievel stuff.. You're better off not even trying to emulate that style because you're going to fall on your face trying.. You're not going to be Money Mayweather so forget it.

But the thing everybody can do is present themselves as serious professionals like Anthony Joshua does.. All of Britain knows who Joshua is and supports him.. If you ask any Brit on the street who the Heavyweight Champion of the World is, they'll tell you Anthony Joshua is that man and tell you they like him.. Doeontay Wilder has more Heavyweight Championship Fights than AJ -- but people who aren't American nationalists don't care about him.. A lot of Americans like Joshua better.. Wilder presents himself so badly and talks so poorly that not a great many people like him or respect him.

Badhusker wrote:

Don’t hate

asdfjkl wrote:I'd love to see AJ fighting Povetkin next, that would be an awesome fight! Povetkin is still and by far, the best active heavyweight of this century, the current rank two of the heavyweight division. There's a reason Wilder is and was so scared of him. I hope Wilder soon fights a serious English name, Joyce, Dubois, Whyte, name them, then AJ can fight him after Ortiz and Povetkin, while Wilder can hold his battle of the dopers against Stiverne, and fight an English guy or/and Parker.

Considering Joyce debuted last night, and Dubois is only a 4 or 5 fight professional, they are miles off wilder.

Whyte or Del Boy are the obvious ones he could fight. Mainly Whyte as he’s better ranked and with matchroom

tiny_acres wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

Perspective. Joshua is some way behind wilder in his journey. When he fought breazeale it was a step in the right direction. Got him rounds and experience. It was a good fight.

Molina weren’t a great opponent, but a useful one to put pressure on team wilder by dealing with a like for like much more impressively

If Wilder would fight Whyte and then unify with Parker that would still be a good thing.

Ossyrules wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
What exactly do you disagree with in terms of Joshua's statements?

Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

Perspective. Joshua is some way behind wilder in his journey. When he fought breazeale it was a step in the right direction. Got him rounds and experience. It was a good fight.

Molina weren’t a great opponent, but a useful one to put pressure on team wilder by dealing with a like for like much more impressively

If AJ didn't have the big TKO win over Wlad, I'd say that both Wilder and AJ have similar resumes.

"The deal in Wilder’s head is a 50-50 split but over my dead body is that ever happening. He hasn’t had a serious fight yet and he needs to fight someone real before he can start making demands. I want him to fight Dillian Whyte at the O2 on February 3. That would be an absolute tear-up. AJ would buy a ringside seat for that," Hearn said.

Hearn isn't stupid but Wilder would accept a risky fight only in US and with vada testing. Anyway Wilder can fight whatever bums he wants.

Hearn is all talk.
What's he going to do with Joshua ... fight B C and D listers and make a bunch of money.
Yeah he could do that but will always be overshadowed by a boxer who can beat Joshua.

Joshua hasn't been out to North America yet.

Joshua gonna headline in Vegas against who ?

apollo creed wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:
Yes this makes sense. Because we know Breazel and Molina had such exciting fights and great resumes before Joshua fought them

Perspective. Joshua is some way behind wilder in his journey. When he fought breazeale it was a step in the right direction. Got him rounds and experience. It was a good fight.

Molina weren’t a great opponent, but a useful one to put pressure on team wilder by dealing with a like for like much more impressively

If AJ didn't have the big TKO win over Wlad, I'd say that both Wilder and AJ have similar resumes.

Absolutely, but he does have a tko win over Wlad, so it’s not really a point to make.

Note that before the Wlad fight Joshua had fought roughly 40 rounds pro boxing. Wilder nearly 40 fights. Joshua should be behind him

Evander wrote:Hearn is all talk.
What's he going to do with Joshua ... fight B C and D listers and make a bunch of money.
Yeah he could do that but will always be overshadowed by a boxer who can beat Joshua.

Hearn has produced for Joshua. The IBF after about 16 fights, 90k show to unify vs Wlad as 19 fights. He’s clearly not all talk

Evander wrote:Joshua hasn't been out to North America yet.

Produce some heavyweights and get interested in boxing and maybe he’ll have to go out there

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:Joshua hasn't been out to North America yet.

Produce some heavyweights and get interested in boxing and maybe he’ll have to go out there

As most people know the division is thin, that alone could be thrown at Joshua to down him.
It's not fair but the way it stands as of this moment is the way it is.

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:Joshua hasn't been out to North America yet.

Produce some heavyweights and get interested in boxing and maybe he’ll have to go out there

As most people know the division is thin, that alone could be thrown at Joshua to down him.
It's not fair but the way it stands as of this moment is the way it is.

I’m sure they will fight and I’m sure it’s in Hearns plans that AJ fights in America

At the end of the day AJ is the HW cash-cow and he had a big win over Wlad. Wilder can't draw even his backyard and he is the guy who should establish himself and stop fighting tomatos.