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Can we please get this guy a real fight? Jesus. This is a WASTE.

For real. So disappointing that they haven't done something meaningful with this kid. He's a good fighter.

He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

hulkmaniac wrote:He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

Rosado?

gilgamesh wrote:For real. So disappointing that they haven't done something meaningful with this kid. He's a good fighter.

Agree. I'm a fan. Has some skills man

hulkmaniac wrote:He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

We're trying to get him NOT to waste his time. Rosado is a waste of time.

Sulecki wouldn't be.

Andrade vs Fox was a lost hour of my life, get Andrade in with Lemiux or Jacobs and lets see what he can do ...

victor-romeo wrote:Andrade vs Fox was a lost hour of my life, get Andrade in with Lemiux or Jacobs and lets see what he can do ...

He shouldn't fight Lara. That would drive fans away from boxing.

victor-romeo wrote:Andrade vs Fox was a lost hour of my life, get Andrade in with Lemiux or Jacobs and lets see what he can do ...

Was that because of Andrade or Fox?

I hear Andrade put on a good show correct me if i'm wrong.. av not caught it yet.. i heard Fox stank the fight out.

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

victor-romeo wrote:Andrade vs Fox was a lost hour of my life, get Andrade in with Lemiux or Jacobs and lets see what he can do ...

Was that because of Andrade or Fox?

I hear Andrade put on a good show correct me if i'm wrong.. av not caught it yet.. i heard Fox stank the fight out.

Fox didn't come to win but in fairness he was never expected to. Andrade should've have moved up a gear, cut the ring off a lil better and tried a bit more to put on a show. Fox was there as the "designated loser", not really down to him to shine. Andrade was supposed to be making a statement to the Middleweight division, which he failed to do.

I skipped it after 3 rounds.

gilgamesh wrote:

hulkmaniac wrote:He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

We're trying to get him NOT to waste his time. Rosado is a waste of time.

Sulecki wouldn't be.

Rosado is a name that can put him over with the casuals. I also can't think of any promoter or network conflict that would make it hard to arrange.

gilgamesh wrote:For real. So disappointing that they haven't done something meaningful with this kid. He's a good fighter.

Demetrius Andrade previously turned down opportunities to fight Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo.

Andrade also turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime.

He also chose to only compete once per year against anonymous unheralded opponents from the start of 2014 through until the end of 2016.

Demetrius has been fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of lots of opportunities throughout the course of his career, but for some strange reason, he hasn't taken them and I'm not so sure he deserves to receive more, but he'll likely get them anyway.

Andrade has either got self-destructive tendencies or he possesses absolutely no business acumen whatsoever!

demetrius da diva

hulkmaniac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

hulkmaniac wrote:He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

We're trying to get him NOT to waste his time. Rosado is a waste of time.

Sulecki wouldn't be.

Rosado is a name that can put him over with the casuals. I also can't think of any promoter or network conflict that would make it hard to arrange.

Rosa do also comes forward during fights, which is the kind of style Andrade would look good against.

hulkmaniac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

hulkmaniac wrote:He should fight Rosado or the guy who beat Jack Culcay today.

We're trying to get him NOT to waste his time. Rosado is a waste of time.

Sulecki wouldn't be.

Rosado is a name that can put him over with the casuals. I also can't think of any promoter or network conflict that would make it hard to arrange.

Casuals know rosado? Are you mad?

Maybe he can fight Jermall Charlo

Doug Fischer provided some interesting thoughts about this particular matter in his weekly “Monday mailbag” article that is published by The RING:

“I think his next fight at the weight should be against a notable fringe contender, such as Gabriel Rosado or Spike O’Sullivan that will make for a more entertaining fight than we got with Fox.

“His next fight should be against a notable veteran who is still rated by one or more of the sanctioning organizations, such as Matt Korobov, Martin Murray or Hassan N’Dam – anyone who can get him a top-10 ranking with one of the major belts.

“And his third fight should be against a legitimate middleweight contender, such as Sergiy Derevyanchenko or Jermall Charlo, which would be dangerous and risky, but a victory would give Andrade the juice to call out whoever he wanted (GGG, Canelo, Jacobs) without getting ridiculed.

“In fact, if he put together a three-bout middleweight win streak against the calibre of fighter I mentioned, I think many fans and members of the media would beat the drums for him to get a shot at one of the 160-pound elites.”

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:For real. So disappointing that they haven't done something meaningful with this kid. He's a good fighter.

Demetrius Andrade previously turned down opportunities to fight Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo.

Andrade also turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime.

He also chose to only compete once per year against anonymous unheralded opponents from the start of 2014 through until the end of 2016.

Demetrius has been fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of lots of opportunities throughout the course of his career, but for some strange reason, he hasn't taken them and I'm not so sure he deserves to receive more, but he'll likely get them anyway.

Andrade has either got self-destructive tendencies or he possesses absolutely no business acumen whatsoever!

Lara has turned down fights with Andrade aswell.

Viewers were leaving during the last Lara fight. By the end of Andrade vs Lara, there will be no viewers left.

lefty wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:For real. So disappointing that they haven't done something meaningful with this kid. He's a good fighter.

Demetrius Andrade previously turned down opportunities to fight Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo.

Andrade also turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime.

He also chose to only compete once per year against anonymous unheralded opponents from the start of 2014 through until the end of 2016.

Demetrius has been fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of lots of opportunities throughout the course of his career, but for some strange reason, he hasn't taken them and I'm not so sure he deserves to receive more, but he'll likely get them anyway.

Andrade has either got self-destructive tendencies or he possesses absolutely no business acumen whatsoever!

Lara has turned down fights with Andrade aswell.

You’re missing the point. We're discussing Demetrius Andrade and his career management skills.

People are saying that Demetrius Andrade “deserves a meaningful fight”, but:

• He’s been very inactive throughout his career (three fights in three years between 2014 to 2016, with a 16 months hiatus, facing nobodies)
• Allowed his WBO 154lbs title to be stripped due to inactivity (without providing any reason for his inability to fight)
• Has just vacated his 154lbs WBA belt without making a meaningful defence
• Rejected fights against Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo
• Turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime

He has made some terrible decisions in terms of handling his career.

As far as I’m concerned, Andrade should consider himself blessed about the sheer amount of opportunities that he’s been fortunately provided, but he never seems to exploit them.

Therefore, as talented as he is, I don’t consider him as being a relevant fighter on the world stage, due to the fact that “actions speak louder than words”, because he may “talk the talk” but never actually “walks the walk”.

Demetrius Andrade doesn’t deserve to be praised for his lack of business acumen or self-destructive tendencies. Other fighters aren’t “ducking” him, because he’s rendered himself irrelevant.

Enlightened-One wrote:

lefty wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Demetrius Andrade previously turned down opportunities to fight Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo.

Andrade also turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime.

He also chose to only compete once per year against anonymous unheralded opponents from the start of 2014 through until the end of 2016.

Demetrius has been fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of lots of opportunities throughout the course of his career, but for some strange reason, he hasn't taken them and I'm not so sure he deserves to receive more, but he'll likely get them anyway.

Andrade has either got self-destructive tendencies or he possesses absolutely no business acumen whatsoever!

Lara has turned down fights with Andrade aswell.

You’re missing the point. We're discussing Demetrius Andrade and his career management skills.

People are saying that Demetrius Andrade “deserves a meaningful fight”, but:

• He’s been very inactive throughout his career (three fights in three years between 2014 to 2016, with a 16 months hiatus, facing nobodies)
• Allowed his WBO 154lbs title to be stripped due to inactivity (without providing any reason for his inability to fight)
• Has just vacated his 154lbs WBA belt without making a meaningful defence
• Rejected fights against Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo
• Turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime

He has made some terrible decisions in terms of handling his career.

As far as I’m concerned, Andrade should consider himself blessed about the sheer amount of opportunities that he’s been fortunately provided, but he never seems to exploit them.

Therefore, as talented as he is, I don’t consider him as being a relevant fighter on the world stage, due to the fact that “actions speak louder than words”, because he may “talk the talk” but never actually “walks the walk”.

Demetrius Andrade doesn’t deserve to be praised for his lack of business acumen or self-destructive tendencies. Other fighters aren’t “ducking” him, because he’s rendered himself irrelevant.

I'm not missing point. It's just that you were being a little disengenous by making it seem that it's purely Andrade dodging fights. The truth of the matter is, that Andrade has also found it hard to get the best fighters in the ring because he's high risk and low reward. Not dissimilar to Lara in fact.

lefty wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

lefty wrote: Lara has turned down fights with Andrade aswell.

You’re missing the point. We're discussing Demetrius Andrade and his career management skills.

People are saying that Demetrius Andrade “deserves a meaningful fight”, but:

• He’s been very inactive throughout his career (three fights in three years between 2014 to 2016, with a 16 months hiatus, facing nobodies)
• Allowed his WBO 154lbs title to be stripped due to inactivity (without providing any reason for his inability to fight)
• Has just vacated his 154lbs WBA belt without making a meaningful defence
• Rejected fights against Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara and Jermell Charlo
• Turned down a three-fight deal with Showtime

He has made some terrible decisions in terms of handling his career.

As far as I’m concerned, Andrade should consider himself blessed about the sheer amount of opportunities that he’s been fortunately provided, but he never seems to exploit them.

Therefore, as talented as he is, I don’t consider him as being a relevant fighter on the world stage, due to the fact that “actions speak louder than words”, because he may “talk the talk” but never actually “walks the walk”.

Demetrius Andrade doesn’t deserve to be praised for his lack of business acumen or self-destructive tendencies. Other fighters aren’t “ducking” him, because he’s rendered himself irrelevant.

I'm not missing point. It's just that you were being a little disengenous by making it seem that it's purely Andrade dodging fights. The truth of the matter is, that Andrade has also found it hard to get the best fighters in the ring because he's high risk and low reward. Not dissimilar to Lara in fact.

He does himself no favours whatsoever.

Fight fans don't care about inactive fighters that occasionally compete against B-level anonymous fringe contenders.

Andrade keeps turning down opportunities... and he can't blame anyone else for that.

I listed a whole host of issues, which I feel provides compelling justification for my opinion.

agree with enlightened one. andrade has done most of this to himself. terrible business sense to go with a sense of entitlement.