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This is a very good fight. I'd say it's a pick'em fight. Who do you got and why ?

https://youtu.be/PydH1rkRfUg

Dorticos looks taller.

Close one. I think dorticos has the Momentum but itcan go either way.

Jip wrote:Close one. I think dorticos has the Momentum but itcan go either way.

Dorticos seems to be the more active and faster fighter and Gassiev the more patient one but with more power. It will be interesting to see if Dorticos can take Gassiev's power.

Dorticos will have an athletic advantage, he should be able to get off first, another very interesting fight

Counter-puncher wrote:Dorticos will have an athletic advantage, he should be able to get off first, another very interesting fight

The same could be said for a lot of Froch's former opponents though. It didn't matter in the end.

lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:Dorticos will have an athletic advantage, he should be able to get off first, another very interesting fight

The same could be said for a lot of Froch's former opponents though. It didn't matter in the end.

Of course, but a 6'4-odd dude who can let power shots go at speed is never to be discounted. Especially as Gassievs chin hasn't been really tested yet?

Counter-puncher wrote:Dorticos will have an athletic advantage, he should be able to get off first, another very interesting fight

This is one top quality matche. Hard to pick.

In terms of quality opposition that both faced I think Gassiev beat a far better and tougher opponent in Lebedev than Dorticos - who beat a slow-basic-chiny opponent in Kudryashov.

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lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:Dorticos will have an athletic advantage, he should be able to get off first, another very interesting fight

The same could be said for a lot of Froch's former opponents though. It didn't matter in the end.

Of course, but a 6'4-odd dude who can let power shots go at speed is never to be discounted. Especially as Gassievs chin hasn't been really tested yet?

Lebedev can dig a bit himself in fairness, and he never looked like shifting Gassiev. Regarding the height; yeah Dorticos is a big dude but I wouldn't say he's a master of boxing long and maintaining distance.

lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

lefty wrote: The same could be said for a lot of Froch's former opponents though. It didn't matter in the end.

Of course, but a 6'4-odd dude who can let power shots go at speed is never to be discounted. Especially as Gassievs chin hasn't been really tested yet?

Lebedev can dig a but himself in fairness, and he never looked like shifting Gassiev.

Gassiev has a strong chin.

Gassiev

lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

lefty wrote: The same could be said for a lot of Froch's former opponents though. It didn't matter in the end.

Of course, but a 6'4-odd dude who can let power shots go at speed is never to be discounted. Especially as Gassievs chin hasn't been really tested yet?

Lebedev can dig a bit himself in fairness, and he never looked like shifting Gassiev. Regarding the height; yeah Dorticos is a big dude but I wouldn't say he's a master of boxing long and maintaining distance.

Since he's slowed down I'm not sure Lebedev is too much of a puncher/Ko threat nowadays, I don't recall him stopping any decent guys for some while?

Using your Froch analogy think of the Taylor fight, Taylor not known as a puncher at 168 and Froch with a great chin, but Taylor's athleticism meant he could put Froch down, that's the kind of dynamic I'm talking about

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lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:
Of course, but a 6'4-odd dude who can let power shots go at speed is never to be discounted. Especially as Gassievs chin hasn't been really tested yet?

Lebedev can dig a bit himself in fairness, and he never looked like shifting Gassiev. Regarding the height; yeah Dorticos is a big dude but I wouldn't say he's a master of boxing long and maintaining distance.

Since he's slowed down I'm not sure Lebedev is too much of a puncher/Ko threat nowadays, I don't recall him stopping any decent guys for some while?

Using your Froch analogy think of the Taylor fight, Taylor not known as a puncher at 168 and Froch with a great chin, but Taylor's athleticism meant he could put Froch down, that's the kind of dynamic I'm talking about

Yeah I see where you're coming from. Taylor was far quicker than Froch though. I don't see that same kind of hand speed or foot speed from Dorticos. I don't think he's significantly faster than Gassiev. Neither are particularly fast imo. Time will tell.

Can be pretty exciting given the mixture of styles and great capabilities of both. The outcome in my opinion will to a very high degree depend on who has a better chin on him.

i bet Gassiev wins after a war. seeems to be better boxer technically and skill wise - it gonna be Joshua-Klitschko of CW division

In a hard fight, I've got gassiev as the winner

dagilechia wrote:i bet Gassiev wins after a war. seeems to be better boxer technically and skill wise - it gonna be Joshua-Klitschko of CW division

Yeah, Gassiev looks like he's trying to take his time and find that crack in his opponent's game. On the other hand Dorticos is in 'hurry' type of fighter throwing more punches. I think Gassiev at some point is gonna catch Dorticos with something big and then good night.

gassiev imo. more sturdy i think. dorticos doesnt really strike me as particularyly athletic either. flails a bit and wide with a lot of punches. gassiev tighter technique. nothing in height for either.

dorticos massively flattered by beating kud, who didnt belong at this level. kud already steamrolled by durodola in 2. dorticos had tough fight with kalenga, who i consider is best opponent.

lefty wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

lefty wrote: Lebedev can dig a bit himself in fairness, and he never looked like shifting Gassiev. Regarding the height; yeah Dorticos is a big dude but I wouldn't say he's a master of boxing long and maintaining distance.

Since he's slowed down I'm not sure Lebedev is too much of a puncher/Ko threat nowadays, I don't recall him stopping any decent guys for some while?

Using your Froch analogy think of the Taylor fight, Taylor not known as a puncher at 168 and Froch with a great chin, but Taylor's athleticism meant he could put Froch down, that's the kind of dynamic I'm talking about

Yeah I see where you're coming from. Taylor was far quicker than Froch though. I don't see that same kind of hand speed or foot speed from Dorticos. I don't think he's significantly faster than Gassiev. Neither are particularly fast imo. Time will tell.

agree mate. not sure why ppl are saying dort has a lot more athleticism? because hes black lol?

hes actually not all that fast or quick reflexed imo.though maybe he looked that way against brawling sloth kudryashov. i think kud wouldve been ko'd by every other guy in the tournament.easily the 'make you look explosive' guy who will lose by early ko.

and no shit dorticos will probably look taller when theyre about the same height and hes got on suit shoes compared to gassievs boxing shoes

Btw, didnt usyk get dropped by a body shot in 2016 olympics? maybe tender down there? if he is, gassiev can be a serious danger with that ripping liver shot.

Gassiev ko Wlodarczyk cold like he was just not durable bum, but in fact he was the first to knock him out in his 58 fight
Dorticos ko Kudryashov but we all know his chin is weak
thats why Gassiev win impress me more and bet on him in Gas-Dort fight

jamamb wrote:and no poo dorticos will probably look taller when theyre about the same height and hes got on suit shoes compared to gassievs boxing shoes

Gassiev is shorter for sure, but I think he's deceptively tall. He's got one of those very stocky, squat body types, that makes him appear shorter than he actually is.

I don't know, it could be like GGG v Jacobs. Id give the edge to the better boxer if pushed, but what a fight! Fantastic.