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Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 01:01
by Taansend
Just having a butchers at Katie's opponent this Saturday (Anahi Esther Sanchez - she has lovely cheekbones) and noticed that she's ranked 5th at Lightweight by Boxrec (this ain't a Boxrec rating dig thread).
Taylor is ranked 9th.
But Sanchez is only ranked 3rd when it comes to Argentinian female Lightweights. Six of the top eight ladies at that weight are Argentinian. The highest ranked is one Natalia Vanesa del Valle Aguirre who is 8-10-3 with every fight going the distance. She recently lost NINE fights in a row before beating a 14-8-1 fighter - who was coming off a loss herself. But she's number two in the World. She even lost to Sanchez. In fact she's lost to most of the other Argentinians in that group. And the woman she beat is ranked 2nd at Featherweight.
So she lost nine times to female Argentinian Lightweights, then fights a female Argentinian Featherweight and is somehow rated above all of the women who beat her
Anyway, I doubt if many on here are as pathetically anorak as I am but here's the ratings in case anyone is
http://boxrec.com/en/ratings?offset=&se ... ightweight
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 01:11
by jamamb
pathetic divison although i guess not too bad by womens boxing standards
the world 3 is also 5-1 and half her opponents were making debut and she lost to one of them. and taylors world title opponent got kod early a few months ago. but watch after taylor wins ppl try to rate her above men like what happened with rousey
but taylors good and she can only beat whats there. just a shame theres so little of quality
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 01:49
by Taansend
jamamb wrote:pathetic divison although i guess not too bad by womens boxing standards
the world 3 is also 5-1 and half her opponents were making debut and she lost to one of them. and taylors world title opponent got kod early a few months ago. but watch after taylor wins ppl try to rate her above men like what happened with rousey
but taylors good and she can only beat whats there. just a shame theres so little of quality
Thanks for replying
I'm not talking about the quality. That's going to take a generation or two. But it's just weird that there's a conglomeration of Argentinian woman in the top 8, yet the lady that's lost to most of them is ranked highest because she beat someone lower
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 01:50
by jamamb
ya mate i knew wut u were talking about. maybe you can check out the ranking methodology. think it is a sign of poor depth when rankings can suddenly jump like that from seemingly not great win
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 03:36
by Marlo Stanfield
think it's quite clear from what I've seen so far that the pro ranks has a miles smaller pool of talent than the amateur game for the women at the moment. Taylor looked over the hill until she turned pro IMO
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 04:59
by chinarich
From the thread title I thought she'd formed a band.
Regarding the ratings, I never pay any attention to Boxrec rankings...
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 05:17
by darkrobot
lHaha, love the idea of Katie Taylor and Lightweights. Motown would have snapped them up.
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 08:03
by darkrobot
Btw, that was a compliment not an insult. Not sure if she can sing or not, But she can sure, certainly box. So probably would have beaten up Berry Gordy if he tried to tell her what to do. Although I've heard Gordy himself was a boxer in his younger days! So who knows what could have happened there.
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 09:38
by Taansend
darkrobot wrote:Btw, that was a compliment not an insult. Not sure if she can sing or not, But she can sure, certainly box. So probably would have beaten up Berry Gordy if he tried to tell her what to do. Although I've heard Gordy himself was a boxer in his younger days! So who knows what could have happened there.
Just about everyone was a boxer in their younger days back then
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 10:27
by brian13
Her opponent is overweight by a pound. Whether she will make it or not remains to be seen.
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 15:59
by chinarich
Title only on the line for Taylor, her opponent failed with her second attempt at making weight...
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 16:04
by Taansend
chinarich wrote:Title only on the line for Taylor, her opponent failed with her second attempt at making weight...
That's why her cheekbones looked so sexy
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 27 Oct 2017, 16:15
by chinarich
Taansend wrote:chinarich wrote:Title only on the line for Taylor, her opponent failed with her second attempt at making weight...
That's why her cheekbones looked so sexy
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 06:53
by PredatorHayds
Hope I don't get drunk tonight and scream 'Punch here in the tits'
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 09:03
by darkrobot
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PredatorHayds wrote:Hope I don't get drunk tonight and scream 'Punch here in the tits'
It wouldn't make any difference if you did or you didn't. Scream whatever you want. Punches to the chest (whether male or female opponent) rarely have any effect. There was some scaremongering about 10/15 years ago about female boxers being more vulnerable to developing breast cancer (wot? I expect that had a sound scientific basis). But in layman's terms, it was bollocks. (Frank/ Kelly Maloney I'm looking at you. Btw what the hell is going on these days with him/ her?)
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 10:17
by darkrobot
darkrobot wrote:0
PredatorHayds wrote:Hope I don't get drunk tonight and scream 'Punch here in the tits'
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It wouldn't make any difference if you did or you didn't. Scream whatever you want. Punches to the chest (whether male or female opponent) rarely have any effect. There was some scaremongering about 10/15 years ago about female boxers being more vulnerable to developing breast cancer (wot? I expect that had a sound scientific basis). But in layman's terms, it was bollocks. (Frank/ Kelly Maloney I'm looking at you . Btw what the hell is going on these days with him/ her?)
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 12:05
by darkrobot
Taansend wrote:jamamb wrote:pathetic divison although i guess not too bad by womens boxing standards
the world 3 is also 5-1 and half her opponents were making debut and she lost to one of them. and taylors world title opponent got kod early a few months ago. but watch after taylor wins ppl try to rate her above men like what happened with rousey
but taylors good and she can only beat whats there. just a shame theres so little of quality
Thanks for replying
I'm not talking about the quality. That's going to take a generation or two. But it's just weird that there's a conglomeration of Argentinian woman in the top 8, yet the lady that's lost to most of them is ranked highest because she beat someone lower
It's not that weird- Argentina is one of the few countries that takes women's boxing seriously and supports it. Just one article on the subject, there are many more:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13837709
No arguments about the generation thing btw, it will take at least 10 years, perhaps nearer 20.
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 16:00
by wesshaw1985
Bustos (IBF) or Alfonzo (WBO) next for Katie Taylor, cheap and easy enough fights.
I think she'll avoid Persoon (WBC) for a while...
Re: Katie Taylor & The Lightweights
Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 16:04
by brian13
wesshaw1985 wrote:Bustos (IBF) or Alfonzo (WBO) next for Katie Taylor, cheap and easy enough fights.
I think she'll avoid Persoon (WBC) for a while...
Probably avoid Persoon for the moment but after the homecoming, I can see her fighting Persoon in Dublin when the fight happens.