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Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 17:28
by Tuan_Jim
Has he or his camp given any reasons for his bizarre performance?
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 17:29
by jamamb
just dont thknk he cares these days
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 17:35
by boxingknockout
He was an embarrassment. He’s probably wearing a pussyhat and in a gay sauna
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 17:46
by punchoutsb
Tuan_Jim wrote:Has he or his camp given any reasons for his bizarre performance?
Yes, he said he only had one week to prepare for the fight and that he knew this was a risk when he accepted it.
boxingknockout wrote:He was an embarrassment. He’s probably wearing a pussyhat and in a gay sauna
The fight sucked. You should leave it at that.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 19:55
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tuan_Jim wrote:Has he or his camp given any reasons for his bizarre performance?
He's probably still trying to slow down his heart rate and set up the parade for showing the kids of the world that the Boogeyman is indeed human.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 07:21
by horndawg80
Let's make no bones about it - he was dreadful
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 07:45
by TheCobra
Sparring partner mentality, looks to have fully given up.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 11:11
by Tomasino
He was wild eyed through most of that fight. He’s in the wrong job.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 11:13
by gilgamesh
He's past his prime, and he showed up to fight a British fighter on a British card. He was just there for a paycheck, and he fought like it.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 11:20
by jamamb
thing is early rounds you could really see that his punches bothered whyte but he never once stepped it up at all, even though he used to be okay finisher at his level. desire gone and maybe hesistent from the ko imo. just a shell now and wad limited to start with.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 12:51
by Floyd the snake
The reason why he was picked was because he was AJ sparring partner for the Pulev fight , that's why Eddie picked him good name with a good record but he had all his ambition knocked out of him sparring AJ .
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 12:56
by TheLeprechaun
Floyd the snake wrote:The reason why he was picked was because he was AJ sparring partner for the Pulev fight , that's why Eddie picked him good name with a good record but he had all his ambition knocked out of him sparring AJ .
Did you miss the fight where he got starched by duhappas?
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 13:05
by jamamb
dont think hes had ambition for a while. looked like utter shitt the fight before whyte and then gained ten more pounds in a few months for this one. his career was pretty much done when he left sauerland, doubt aj really knocked the drive out of him. there wasnt much left there mentaly or physically with his constant injuries. and his baseline was too low for him to really be a player in the division with that type of decline.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 14:09
by BitPlayer
He showed flashes of his talent at points, but then went back to not a lot. I think he half assed his training. Got through the fight, and got a nice paycheck.
I'm sure a few others will want to fight him now so they can say they did better than Whyte.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 14:31
by deadpan
He looked to completely have the measure of Whyte in the second, making him lunge and miss horribly, catching him seemingly at ease and at one point wobbling him. Then round three he seemed to settle for a points defeat. It was bizarre.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 14:50
by Tuan_Jim
I thought it was Banks/Mitchell II weird. The A side gets shaken up and so the B side immediately stops trying and coasts in defensive mode for remaining half an hour. Unfathomable.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 15:06
by deadpan
Tuan_Jim wrote:I thought it was Banks/Mitchell II weird. The A side gets shaken up and so the B side immediately stops trying and coasts in defensive mode for remaining half an hour. Unfathomable.
Nice comparison!

Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 15:15
by Andrew
deadpan wrote:Tuan_Jim wrote:I thought it was Banks/Mitchell II weird. The A side gets shaken up and so the B side immediately stops trying and coasts in defensive mode for remaining half an hour. Unfathomable.
Nice comparison!

Same for Argenis Mendez vs Luke Campbell last year.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 16:38
by rd350lc
TheLeprechaun wrote:Floyd the snake wrote:The reason why he was picked was because he was AJ sparring partner for the Pulev fight , that's why Eddie picked him good name with a good record but he had all his ambition knocked out of him sparring AJ .
Did you miss the fight where he got starched by duhappas?
Was going to say , has Jim never seen him fight before ?
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 17:47
by Gnome
Naandrew wrote:deadpan wrote:Tuan_Jim wrote:I thought it was Banks/Mitchell II weird. The A side gets shaken up and so the B side immediately stops trying and coasts in defensive mode for remaining half an hour. Unfathomable.
Nice comparison!

Same for Argenis Mendez vs Luke Campbell last year.
Or the Freddie Flintoff fight haha
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 17:58
by littlepug
The heavyweight division always seem to produce these boxers that just "don't turn up" on the night, flaky complicated characters that seem to have an on and off switch for ambition
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:02
by boxingknockout
Any you tube link? I want to see if Helenius was dangerous early,!as missed the early rounds!
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:08
by skanksta
TheLeprechaun wrote:Floyd the snake wrote:The reason why he was picked was because he was AJ sparring partner for the Pulev fight , that's why Eddie picked him good name with a good record but he had all his ambition knocked out of him sparring AJ .
Did you miss the fight where he got starched by duhappas?
Did you miss the sparring where he KO'd AJ ?!

Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:09
by jamamb
boxingknockout wrote:Any you tube link? I want to see if Helenius was dangerous early,!as missed the early rounds!
dont know about the link but in particular watch the second when you find the fight. he clearly hurts whyte and then does eff all to follow up. as if he was like 'well thats good enough for me, ill just cover up from now'. its pretty much awful plodding stuff after that because helenius does nothing and whyte couldnt hurt him. at least ortiz got some knockdowns on scott in their borefest.
Re: Any word from Helenius?
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:31
by boxingknockout
jamamb wrote:boxingknockout wrote:Any you tube link? I want to see if Helenius was dangerous early,!as missed the early rounds!
dont know about the link but in particular watch the second when you find the fight. he clearly hurts whyte and then does eff all to follow up. as if he was like 'well thats good enough for me, ill just cover up from now'. its pretty much awful plodding stuff after that because helenius does nothing and whyte couldnt hurt him. at least ortiz got some knockdowns on scott in their borefest.
Cheers man! Just watched highlights and damn! He buzzes Whyte twice and Whyte’s eyes become enormous! Very very suspect....