Page 1 of 1
WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 03:38
by Ruthless-RKO
The World Boxing Association (WBA) Board of Directors voted in favor of the “Fair Boxing” program being implemented in a compulsory way in the regional and world fighting championships for the top 15 rankings of the organization.
During the second shift of the WBA Board Meeting, they agreed by voting that boxers for this type of fights should be enrolled in the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) program. The motion was proposed by the President of the WBA, Gilberto Jesus Mendoza, as a way to achieve a fairer sport.
Mendoza invited all organizations that have not joined to work together with VADA, and do it now to the boxing’s benefit. The executive explained that being registered in the association’s program does not mean that fighters will be tested for each fight, but tests will be done randomly as it is done normally by VADA.
He also explained that if it is necessary, promoters can request tests before the fights and take charge of the costs arising.
After the motion was approved, the Board left the responsibility of creating a committee to manage and carry out the program on Mendoza’s behalf.
http://www.BS.com/wba-vote-mak ... ry--121942
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 06:05
by Enlightened-One
What will inevitably happen is that some surprising names will inevitably get caught cheating, with their loyal fans screaming “CONSPIRACY!”
Alternatively, we might see a sudden shift in the so-called “prestige” of the world title organisations, whereby some of the biggest names target the WBO & IBF straps instead of the WBC & WBA belts.
We saw something similar happen when the IBF imposed their strict weigh-in rules, because it is very noticeable that we don’t often see the big names owning or challenging for that belt.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 06:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote:What will inevitably happen is that some surprising names will inevitably get caught cheating, with their loyal fans screaming “CONSPIRACY!”
Alternatively, we might see a sudden shift in the so-called “prestige” of the world title organisations, whereby some of the biggest names target the WBO & IBF straps instead of the WBC & WBA belts.
We saw something similar happen when the IBF imposed their strict weigh-in rules, because it is very noticeable that we don’t often see the big names owning or challenging for that belt.
They need to follow
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 07:00
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:What will inevitably happen is that some surprising names will inevitably get caught cheating, with their loyal fans screaming “CONSPIRACY!”
Alternatively, we might see a sudden shift in the so-called “prestige” of the world title organisations, whereby some of the biggest names target the WBO & IBF straps instead of the WBC & WBA belts.
We saw something similar happen when the IBF imposed their strict weigh-in rules, because it is very noticeable that we don’t often see the big names owning or challenging for that belt.
They need to follow
Agreed, but neither the IBF nor the WBO are likely to “fall in line” with the WBC & WBA if the implementation of a drug testing protocol adversely affects the monetary amount sanctioning fees received, especially if both the “Fair” and “Clean” boxing programs subsequently result in biggest names in the sport being attracted to the ownership of their belts (in an attempt to avoid being tested).
I also don’t believe that enough fight fans are demanding for drug testing being implemented across the board for their sport, because there are a lot of people that frequent this forum would like there to be a free-for-all, coupled with the fact that the media rarely cover the use and implications of boxers consuming PED’s in boxing.
The sport needs random drug testing to be implemented across the board, but it won’t happen for several years… and may never happen at all.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:05
by asdfjkl
Let a sporter be tested by several labs and not just one lab. Even if it's a vada lab, it has been proven already that sporters can get away using doping, while innocent boxers get screwed by labs as well.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:17
by Kalan
This was in the works for a long time... Only dispute was how much the WBA was going to be paid to make "Voluntary" testing by 1 source Mandatory.
Now VADA has another batch of hapless boxers who are forced to pay for their overpriced and corrupt testing -- over ANY other source.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:26
by Lackeos
They should definitely have mandatory voluntary anti-doping testing.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 19:00
by montrealsuper
They will catch the ones they want to catch and ignore the ones they don't want to screw. Just like every other sport. Stars are protected.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 20:00
by FastestHandsInThewest
Shouldn't they be tested for every fight? Dang boxing's juicing worse than I thought.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 00:57
by Enlightened-One
Kalan wrote:This was in the works for a long time... Only dispute was how much the WBA was going to be paid to make "Voluntary" testing by 1 source Mandatory.
Now VADA has another batch of hapless boxers who are forced to pay for their overpriced and corrupt testing -- over ANY other source.
The fighters don't pay for the WBC testing for the "Clean Boxing Program". I've read that the costs for the WBA's version will be charged to the promoters.
So please explain your comments and the use of your word "another"?
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 04:25
by Kalan
The boxer always ends up paying one way or another... For the fight, the promoter takes the revenue right off the top to pay for testing or whatever... For year-round testing the boxer will also pay.. It's a clever scheme to to eventually force all the boxers who make decent money to give a cut of it to VADA for "Voluntary" testing.. Every year it seems they push it a little farther so it's also a way for partners in crime like the WBC and WBA to take a cut of that money.. I told people when VADA first started that they would keep pushing everybody out until they monopolized testing in Boxing.
It's interesting that Victor Conte has been cut off for life.. He's not involved with Track & Field anymore at all since he was convicted and jailed.
And I asked "Another?" because somebody said Povetkin failed another test... He was exonerated by the WADA, VADA and the WBC after their "investigation" ... They found that he passed all his Wilder tests with flying colors.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 04:30
by Enlightened-One
Kalan wrote:For year-round testing the boxer will also pay... I told people when VADA first started that they would keep pushing everybody out until they monopolized testing in Boxing.
Okay, I understand your opinion and I’m not going to challenge it, but I don’t necessarily agree with it either.
That being said, can you please expand on these points?
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 04:53
by greg
..whatever the criticism, it's the step in the right direction..
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 06:47
by Thomastearns
montrealsuper wrote:They will catch the ones they want to catch and ignore the ones they don't want to screw. Just like every other sport. Stars are protected.
It still pisses me off how Carl Lewis kept getting 'ignored' whilst Ben Johnson was pilloried from post to post.
Unfortunately drug testing, like everything else, is subject to political pressures. Still, we have to start somewhere, and its ridiculous to not have universal rules.
Perhaps also, a penalty points system could be introduced in the case of someone having 0.0000000000001% caffeine over the acceptable limit. A bit more openness regarding results would also be welcomed. We shouldn't have to wait for a 'Fancybears' hack to find out that Bradley Wiggins and co were given medical exceptions on various occasions.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 06:55
by greg
Thomastearns wrote: We shouldn't have to wait for a 'Fancybears' hack to find out that Bradley Wiggins and co were given medical exceptions on various occasions.
...I agree that medical exemptions should be in public domain

Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 07:39
by Enlightened-One
greg wrote:Thomastearns wrote: We shouldn't have to wait for a 'Fancybears' hack to find out that Bradley Wiggins and co were given medical exceptions on various occasions.
...I agree that medical exemptions should be in public domain

The relevant boxing governing body, in partnership with VADA (or whatever anti-doping association that is being employed), should schedule a visit between the fighter that requested the medical exemption and an approved physician to justify the validity of the request.
The precise nature of medical exemptions should not be in the public domain, because everybody is entitled to protect the privacy of their personal medical and health information.
Anybody involved in the staging of the boxing event that “needs to know” the precise details of any medical exemptions that have been requested should be compelled to sign a non-disclosure agreement to ensure that the confidential medical information remains private.
There is no justification for this type of information to be disclosed to the general public. It serves no purpose, other than satisfying curiosity.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 08:07
by greg
Enlightened-One wrote:greg wrote:Thomastearns wrote: We shouldn't have to wait for a 'Fancybears' hack to find out that Bradley Wiggins and co were given medical exceptions on various occasions.
...I agree that medical exemptions should be in public domain

The relevant boxing governing body, in partnership with VADA (or whatever anti-doping association that is being employed), should schedule a visit between the fighter that requested the medical exemption and an approved physician to justify the validity of the request.
The precise nature of medical exemptions should not be in the public domain, because everybody is entitled to protect the privacy of their personal medical and health information.
Anybody involved in the staging of the boxing event that “needs to know” the precise details of any medical exemptions that have been requested should be compelled to sign a non-disclosure agreement to ensure that the confidential medical information remains private.
There is no justification for this type of information to be disclosed to the general public. It serves no purpose, other than satisfying curiosity.
..sounds about right..and I certainly was not talking about the precise details of someone's medical condition, rather than the right of public in general to be aware of the fact that this or that sportsman won the competition where the usage of the drug might have affected his/her performance in a positive way..
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 12:18
by asdfjkl
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 00:57
Kalan wrote:This was in the works for a long time... Only dispute was how much the WBA was going to be paid to make "Voluntary" testing by 1 source Mandatory.
Now VADA has another batch of hapless boxers who are forced to pay for their overpriced and corrupt testing -- over ANY other source.
The fighters don't pay for the WBC testing for the "Clean Boxing Program". I've read that the costs for the WBA's version will be charged to the promoters.
So please explain your comments and the use of your word "another"?
Even worse, also note that Povetkin payed for himself.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 13:06
by Enlightened-One
asdfjkl wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Oct 2017, 00:57
Kalan wrote:This was in the works for a long time... Only dispute was how much the WBA was going to be paid to make "Voluntary" testing by 1 source Mandatory.
Now VADA has another batch of hapless boxers who are forced to pay for their overpriced and corrupt testing -- over ANY other source.
The fighters don't pay for the WBC testing for the "Clean Boxing Program". I've read that the costs for the WBA's version will be charged to the promoters.
So please explain your comments and the use of your word "another"?
Even worse, also note that Povetkin payed for himself.
Povetkin agreed to pay for all future drug tests when he tested positive for trace amounts of meldonium against Wilder, which he willingly consented to (at that time) in order to avoid receiving any punishment from the WBC.
This situation relates to the WBC’s “Clean Boxing Program”. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the WBA’s new anti-doping program.
The promoters only foot the bill for the cost of the WBA’s “Fair Boxing Program”. They don’t have any control or influence over how the drug testing is performed.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 13:40
by boxing_rocks
WBA finds new ways to earn money.
Re: WBA Vote To Make VADA Drug Testing Program Mandatory
Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 19:27
by tiny_acres
I'm quite confident that one champion in particular will be vacating his belt when the testing becomes mandatory