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WBC have ordered a final eliminator between Dominic Breazeale and Eric Molina to determine Wilder's next mandatory challenger.

Under the WBC's rules, Wilder has to face one mandatory challenger each year.

He is also a target for Dillian Whyte who wants to take on the champion at the O2 in February.

And so Wilder would have to break with his tradition of fighting twice a year to face all three men.

Doesn't make sense why this should be a final eliminator.. Breazeale ranked #6, but Molina is #12..
Why not order Breazeale vs. Ruiz? who is ranked #4

How is a #6 vs. #12 a final eliminator..

Sigh

OK, so according to the WBC’s rankings, Bermane Stiverne is currently in top spot, but is facing Deontay Wilder this weekend.

The next placed challenger is Luis Ortiz, who is currently out of action, due to him recently testing positive for banned substances.

So it’s interesting that the next highest ranked WBC challenger, Dillian Whyte, who was already rated in 3rd place and also captured their “Silver” heavyweight title last weekend against Robert Helenius, isn’t being considered?

This scuppers Eddie Hearn’s plans to force Deontay Wilder into facing Dillian Whyte prior to scheduling a Wembley Stadium-filling summer showdown between “The Bronze Bomber” and Anthony Joshua.

For the record, assuming that the Al Haymon-advised Dominic Breazeale defeats the Don King-promoted Eric Molina, then he’ll guarantee himself a world title shot against the fellow Al Haymon-advised Deontay Wilder.

Eddie Hearn has recently attempted to make fights for Dominic Breazeale and Deontay Wilder to face Dillian Whyte, with both offers being declined, which were done shortly after the Matchroom boss secured a deal to promote fight cards that will be televised by HBO.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Al Haymon’s fighters that appear on premium cable, are usually televised almost exclusively by Showtime, HBO’s biggest network rival (who has a proven track record to refrain from working with the PBC boss).

It seems that the WBC have decided to protect their interests by siding with Al Haymon, despite being able to receive larger sanctioning fees from fights involving Dillian Whyte.

One pertinent coincidence, Carl Frampton, Lee Selby and James DeGale, who are all advised by Al Haymon, have now just signed promotional deals with Fwank Warren’s Queensberry Promotions, with all three of them previously having worked with Eddie Hearn.

Is there a rift growing between Al Haymon and Eddie Hearn? A new “cold war” maybe?

According to Express.. Wilder is earning £1.1 million, which equates to around $1.4 million

Having a guy ranked 12 for an eliminator does seem odd, good old wbc

2 guys that aren't Top 10 fighting for the right to fight Wilder...one of 'em fighting for the right to fight him for the 2nd time...how fitting.

Garbage. They want to make sure Wilder is still the champ for a possible fight with Joshua.

about wilder not fighting a top ten opponent thing.....it depends on how other fights play out but if brezeale wins this i think you can deffo make a case for him being top ten. ya hes slow and limited but its not like theres loads of guys whove done more way lately.

I know that Wilder hates Breazeale, so I expect Breazeale to now all of a sudden become a drugcheat and a rematch between Wilder and... What was his name again? Will become a done deal in no time without the guy even fighting Breazeale.

and seriously, ppl already shitting on wilder, but 1. he doesnt make the mandatories and 2. the ppl being talked up as legit challenges really havent done more than breazeale would if he beat molina.

omg jarrell miller beat gerald washington and prob will beat old, slow as fornicate, cant punch wach! whyte decisioned dave allen, went life and death with chisora and beat a finished helenius, who still hurt him! pulev scored amazing wins over kevin johnson and shot to shit sam peter. get real ppl, today there is only a very small group of hws who are substantially above breazeale, and some of them like povetkin already drug failed there way out of fights wilder had signed to compete in.

but i do admit that it will look very bad if molina wins, even though he will in reality have scored a win that few have recently topped. stiverne II and then molina II and you have deontays title reign going back in time. i think hes very exciting and i dont want to see mandatory nonsense and other ppls drug failures stagnating him any more than they have.

THis is more protection for WIlder. Haymon controls Breazeale and he controls Molina via King. This is handfeeding Wilder more patsies while making it seem like the WBC is forcing Wilder into these fights. These are not fights, they are sparring sessions against fixed patsies.

Clever choreographing by Haymon to make it look like the WBC is doing the dirty work.

The fraud of Wilder continues. And continues and continues...

THis is more protection for WIlder. Haymon controls Breazeale and he controls Molina via King. This is handfeeding Wilder more patsies while making it seem like the WBC is forcing Wilder into these fights. These are not fights, they are sparring sessions against fixed patsies.

Clever choreographing by Haymon to make it look like the WBC is doing the dirty work.

The fraud of Wilder continues. And continues and continues...

WBC is fraud . Not a real competition but a money making scam

Breazeale would interest me a bit.

I would have definitely preferred the eliminator to feature some combination of Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Wach, Chisora, and Kownacki (but not the combination that includes both Whyte AND Chisora).

Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

It would be funny if the fight would be fair and Wilder loses. Breazeale didn't manage to hit AJ once in seven rounds?!

Grailer wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 16:51 WBC is fraud . Not a real competition but a money making scam

Um, sorry buddy.
I'm 19 years old. I started watching boxing because of Floyd. He is TBE.
Floyd always carried the green belt.

All titles, especially the WBC are real, and they matter!!!!

Like Roger Mayweather used to say when I was 13, you don't know sh!t about boxing.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 08:48 According to Express.. Wilder is earning £1.1 million, which equates to around $1.4 million

Wow. That's peanuts in relation to AJ and even Parker hasn't earned that little for the last 5 of his fights. I read that tickets are still on sale as of Thursday night... I think that says it all.

Wilder could very well make it to 49-0 untested.

Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 18:23 I would have definitely preferred the eliminator to feature some combination of Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Wach, Chisora, and Kownacki (but not the combination that includes both Whyte AND Chisora).

Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

Would like to see Ruiz vs Takam for #1 contender

Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 18:23
Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

That's not really fair. His last win was good. Got off the floor to finish the fight strong. Gotta give him credit for that. If you not giving credit for wins like thst.. then what are we giving fighters credit for?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 03:42

Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 18:23
Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

That's not really fair. His last win was good. Got off the floor to finish the fight strong. Gotta give him credit for that. If you not giving credit for wins like thst.. then what are we giving fighters credit for?

I watched Brazeale's last fight this week, Sky repeated it. I though he did well, he was totally out boxed and got dropped, his eye was almost shut, the body shots he took to his disappointingly flabby mid section were devastating, and he has the heart to take a heap of punishment to score a KO. It was an exciting fight. My respect for the guy went up 80% after that. Sure he is a C+ grade fighter, who cares if he is entertaining enough though

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 05:57

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 03:42

Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 18:23
Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

That's not really fair. His last win was good. Got off the floor to finish the fight strong. Gotta give him credit for that. If you not giving credit for wins like thst.. then what are we giving fighters credit for?

I watched Brazeale's last fight this week, Sky repeated it. I though he did well, he was totally out boxed and got dropped, his eye was almost shut, the body shots he took to his disappointingly flabby mid section were devastating, and he has the heart to take a heap of punishment to score a KO. It was an exciting fight. My respect for the guy went up 80% after that. Sure he is a C+ grade fighter, who cares if he is entertaining enough though

He's definately a fighter, that gives it his all..

I want to see Breazeale vs. Ruiz Jr.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 03:42

Lackeos wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 18:23
Breazeale vs Molina is like... a Joshua victim who has 0 legit wins other than when Mansour bit his tongue in half vs a Wilder victim who Arreola steamrolled in 1 round. I can tolerate Wilder fighting Joshua's leftovers, but preferably it be someone who actually has a real win on his resume somewhere (which is also why I didn't mention Martin, because he has 0 legit wins).

That's not really fair. His last win was good. Got off the floor to finish the fight strong. Gotta give him credit for that. If you not giving credit for wins like thst.. then what are we giving fighters credit for?

Ugonoh has never been in boxrec's top 40, so I can definitely think of 40 other guys who would be better scalps to define a real contender. Like, even Alexander Dimitrenko beat 4 opponents who, at the time, were ranked higher than Ugonoh, and Dimitrenko doesn't even get a tiny fraction of the hype that Breazeale gets. David Price even beat 2 opponents with a rating greater than or equal to Ugonoh. Robert Helenius beat 6 who were rated higher than Ugonoh. Chris Arreola beat 7 opponents who were rated higher than Ugonoh. Albert Sosnowski beat 4 opponents greater than or equal to Ugonoh. Seth Mitchell, Eddie Chambers, etc. all had greater wins that would put Breazeale to shame. I could go on forever, but I gotta go head to work. The point is, people who aren't looking at it with a historical perspective are giving Breazeale way too much credit compared to many other mediocre contenders of the past who accomplished nothing, and also giving Ugonoh too much credit compared to many other mediocre gatekeepers of the past. If Ugonoh is any good at all, then who has he beaten to prove that? Gregory Tony? That's is extraordinarily pathetic even compared to other mediocre gatekeepers of the past like Jameel McCline and Mo Harris. You're totally being fooled by his buffness; he has done nothing as a boxer.

Also, getting dropped by someone as bad as Ugonoh is not a good sign. Any decent contender should have wiped the floor with Ugonoh with absolutely no difficulty of any kind.