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Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:50
by Ricky_
His resume sucks but he hits harder. Speed kills, not muscle-mass.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:55
by dagilechia
i decided not to comment this potential match-up anymore - they just should do it instead of talk.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:57
by lazboy
Wilder will beat Joshua!!!!
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:57
by punchoutsb
Wilder appears to be the hardest puncher in the division, and it's looked that way for some time.
Please get him in there with another top guy NOW!!!!!
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 23:59
by gilgamesh
Joshua has scored stoppages over 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has.
Fact
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:11
by lazboy
Wilder has faster feet and will skirt around AJ. Wilder has a solid jab that is faster than AJ’s. Wilder has hurtful one punch power. Wilder knows what he is. AJ thinks he’s a boxer and is addicted to body building/weights.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:20
by KiwiRider
Can we please make all further references regarding this fight as Wilder Vs the bloated corpse of Bermaine Stiverne?
Thank you.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:52
by IronFrost
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 23:59
Joshua has scored stoppages over 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has.
Fact
Joshua's is not so good as you many think. I mean Dilian Whyte is absolute garbage and we could see that against Chisora and Helenius.
Wladimir got schooled by Tyson Fury who was never considered as "someone who would do that".
Carlos Takam already lost against Alexander Povetkin and Joseph Parker (and had draw against PEREZ (who lost against Breidis).
It's not any hate towards Joshua. But that big fella gets hyped too much while Wilder and Fury are hated. They both could beat him and Hearn would colapse
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 00:55
by gilgamesh
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 00:52
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 23:59
Joshua has scored stoppages over 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has.
Fact
Joshua's is not so good as you many think. I mean Dilian Whyte is absolute garbage and we could see that against Chisora and Helenius.
Wladimir got schooled by Tyson Fury who was never considered as "someone who would do that".
Carlos Takam already lost against Alexander Povetkin and Joseph Parker (and had draw against PEREZ (who lost against Breidis).
It's not any hate towards Joshua. But that big fella gets hyped too much while Wilder and Fury are hated. They both could beat him and Hearn would colapse
Wilder COULD definitely beat him. Wilder has the power to potentially beat anybody.
Fury couldn't beat Joshua or even win a round against him at this point. I don't know that he ever could've. Joshua wouldn't be coming to stare at him.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 01:55
by SaadOffTheDeck
No question.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 01:56
by gilgamesh
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 02:08
by IronFrost
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
Chris Aerola KO1 Molina.. Chris is the hardest puncher in the division
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 02:11
by gilgamesh
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 02:08
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
Chris Aerola KO1 Molina.. Chris is the hardest puncher in the division
I'm just saying. Aside from the fact that you got Joshua with a KO win over a common opponent quicker than Wilder got it, but you also got Joshua with 2 KO wins over Top 10 ranked opponents. Something that Wilder has never achieved.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 03:26
by Kalan
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 00:52
gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Nov 2017, 23:59
Joshua has scored stoppages over 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has.
Fact
Joshua's is not so good as you many think. I mean Dilian Whyte is absolute garbage and we could see that against Chisora and Helenius.
Wladimir got schooled by Tyson Fury who was never considered as "someone who would do that".
Carlos Takam already lost against Alexander Povetkin and Joseph Parker (and had draw against PEREZ (who lost against Breidis).
It's not any hate towards Joshua. But that big fella gets hyped too much while Wilder and Fury are hated. They both could beat him and Hearn would colapse
Wilder hasn't fought anyone... He hasn't fought a single Heavyweight who's any good... He lost 4 straight rounds to Gerald Washington before he finally landed a big punch.. Washington has NOTHING!!! ... He has no jab... no combinations... no counters... no defense... He's big and he's athletic and he's well conditioned and he's real tall and he's already aging before he even learns how to box -- so his transition from football is going very poorly... How does anyone like Washington win a string of rounds off Wilder??? ... Because Wilder has no game... He's tough and he's big and tall he's a puncher... and he's a half assed boxer.. That's Not enough to stay with Joshua.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 04:10
by Ossyrules
I think wilder has the absolute biggest 1 punch. He does swing from the trees compared to Joshua though, I mean he truly truly loads up big.
Wilder, although not this morning vs Stiverne, usual has problems setting up a big shot though. It can often come a bit out of nowhere. Joshua’s better at creating openings, dominates opponents
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 04:20
by funso banjo baby
Wilder isn't a huge puncher compared to AJ or Parker
he just fights stiffs
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 07:02
by Ricky_
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 02:08
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
Chris Aerola KO1 Molina.. Chris is the hardest puncher in the division
Damn gilgamesh you just got it tight from Brut
Joshua's last 2 flights would have went 12 too if it weren't for British ref's wetting the bed.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 07:11
by Oiky
He does, and, crude as he is I think he will KO Joshua
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 07:14
by Ossyrules
Ricky_ wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 07:02
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 02:08
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
Chris Aerola KO1 Molina.. Chris is the hardest puncher in the division
Damn gilgamesh you just got it tight from Brut
Joshua's last 2 flights would have went 12 too if it weren't for British ref's wetting the bed.
Wlad was gone! Takam was poor stoppage though
Wlad is a million times better defensively than anyone wilder has fought though, so landing ko shots isn’t shooting fish in a barrel.
I think Takam has a good chance of going 12 though. He’d took a lot of big shots but he was still there. Takam is no chump though
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 11:44
by p4p1
Yep no doubt in my mind he has been the hardest punching heavyweight for a while. Unfortunately he hasn't fought anyone that good and sometimes his skills look like shit.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 14:05
by Badhusker
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
The Molina fight isn't a real fair comparison. Not that it matters, but Wilder was 4 months coming off a broken hand, so he fought a little different. Molina should have been stopped the first time he turned his back, which was about the 4th or 5th round. Basically a no mas move.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 14:06
by lillywhite14
He might do. The problem might be that Wilder doesn’t take a shot as well as Joshua does.
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 14:07
by gilgamesh
Badhusker wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
The Molina fight isn't a real fair comparison. Not that it matters, but Wilder was 4 months coming off a broken hand, so he fought a little different. Molina should have been stopped the first time he turned his back, which was about the 4th or 5th round. Basically a no mas move.
What about the fact that AJ has stopped 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has? Is that a fair comparison?
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 14:24
by IronFrost
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:07
Badhusker wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 01:56
Tell that to Eric Molina who went down 6 rounds faster against AJ than he did against Wilder.
The Molina fight isn't a real fair comparison. Not that it matters, but Wilder was 4 months coming off a broken hand, so he fought a little different. Molina should have been stopped the first time he turned his back, which was about the 4th or 5th round. Basically a no mas move.
What about the fact that AJ has stopped 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has? Is that a fair comparison?
Only one and it was Klitshcko. Martin had notting to do with top 10. Same goes for that bum Dilian Whyte who is maybe even worse than Eric Molina
Re: Wilder hits harder than Joshua
Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 14:25
by gilgamesh
IronFrost wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:24
gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:07
Badhusker wrote: ↑05 Nov 2017, 14:05
The Molina fight isn't a real fair comparison. Not that it matters, but Wilder was 4 months coming off a broken hand, so he fought a little different. Molina should have been stopped the first time he turned his back, which was about the 4th or 5th round. Basically a no mas move.
What about the fact that AJ has stopped 2 more Top 10 ranked Heavyweights than Wilder has? Is that a fair comparison?
Only one and it was Klitshcko. Martin had notting to do with top 10. Same goes for that bum Dilian Whyte who is maybe even worse than Eric Molina
The other one is Carlos Takam