BoxRec

in vegas yet ?--- if not, they should let this fight marinate until he is---that is when these 2 fighters will make HUGE money.

I don't care about their bank balances; I want to see the best fights when they're hot & this fight is hot now.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 01:48 I don't care about their bank balances; I want to see the best fights when they're hot & this fight is hot now.

Yea exactly nows the time. I don’t want to see any marinating for fk sake. That’s the word Oscar De La Hoya used to delay Canelo Golovkin and it makes me sick as i think of Oscar with marinating juices and oils, just wrong but oh so right

It would do a ton of buys in the UK. Maybe 100k or so here.

AJ won't be able to fight Wilder if Showtime can't cover the bout in the US.

If the American keeps pricing himself out of the fight,
Joshua will inevitably sign a deal with HBO at some point, as it's the same network his promoter is aligned to.

I suspect that Hearn wouldn't have won Matchroom's contract with HBO without promising to get AJ to sign with them also.

We all know that a Showtime vs. HBO situation would render a Wilder-Joshua bout as being highly unlikely unless the contest would generate mega money in the US... and it's not big enough to do that yet.

Deontay Wilder and his team surely know this, hence their exorbitant demands they've requested from Hearn.

They are trying to avoid taking the Joshua fight, whilst saving face.

7 million is far from exorbitant.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 04:51 7 million is far from exorbitant.

I've said it several times before and even quoted Wilder's very own words numerous times also... Wilder wanted $7m to face Dillian Whyte, the highest ranked available WBC title challenger.

That was if he gave Hearn the options he insisted on.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 05:06 That was if he gave Hearn the options he insisted on.

Either way, Deontay Wilder wants far more than $7m to face Anthony Joshua.

Do you agree with this, since you don't appear to be able to substantiate your original claim?

let it marinate

Wilder fights Stiverne for a third time....then maybe Breazealle

meanwhile Aj defends against someone who has lost to Parker and Povetkin

exciting times

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 05:10

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 05:06 That was if he gave Hearn the options he insisted on.

Either way, Deontay Wilder wants far more than $7m to face Anthony Joshua.

Do you agree with this, since you don't appear to be able to substantiate your original claim?

@SaadOffTheDeck - Your silence is delicious!

Do you still honestly believe that Deontay Wilder only wants $7m to face Anthony Joshua or will you admit to speculating utter bóllócks?

I think the biggest HW fight in the world will always draw decent PPV.

It'd do well in the U.K.

I think it'd be doing well to sell 300K in America.

Hell Yes !

Better % wise in UK than US obviously. Beating Whyte first sure won't help in the US.

Anyone remotely interested in boxing is interested in this.

The hatred some have for Wilder helps sells tickets. Wilder's great record against limited opposition only augments the mystique.

Hell Yes !

Better % wise in UK than US obviously. Beating Whyte first sure won't help in the US.

Anyone remotely interested in boxing is interested in this.

The hatred some have for Wilder helps sells tickets.

Wilder's great record against limited opposition only augments the mystique.

First of all, the question should be if AJ and Wilder are big enough draws. I don't know why this topic is implying that Joshua is the only one who might not be able to pull his weight.

Second, yes, of course they are big enough draws to warrant PPV. I don't know what the maximum amount is that premium networks pay for non-PPV fights, but I think it is a few hundred thousand dollars per fighter. So, with that said, any fight capable of netting more than like $800,000 of PPV revenue should be on PPV, unless you simple value the larger exposure of the premium network over the smaller exposure of PPV. In which case, factoring-in the value of exposure, you should have a PPV for any fight that is capable of netting more than like $1.5 million in ppv revenue. For a $50 PPV, if the PPV provider keeps half of the gross income, then any card that can do 60,000 PPV buys should be a PPV.

I think Joshua - Wilder could do something in the 300,000 - 600,000 PPV buy range. So yeah, it could and should be a PPV for sure.

Wilder would have to travel to UK. Only hardcore fans in Americas know who Wilder and Joshua are. They won't even sell 200k in the US.

joshua only did 350k or something in the us for his last fight and that was no ppv. wilder isnt a boxing supstar in the us at all. 600k us ppv seems really far fetched. is wilder even a bigger name than broner

The money is in the U.K. For this one, if it's on at 10pm it'll do over a million.

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 19:42 joshua only did 350k or something in the us for his last fight and that was no ppv. wilder isnt a boxing supstar in the us at all. 600k us ppv seems really far fetched. is wilder even a bigger name than broner

Yeah, lackeos managed to pull off a post that is wrong on every front. Not only did nobody watch it, but they paid 1.6 million for it because HBO forced them to match a high fee. Premium main event are all millions being spent by the network. The record is probably Taylor/wright. I think that was 10 million.tjis fight would sell like ward/kovalev.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 15:55

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 05:10

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 05:06 That was if he gave Hearn the options he insisted on.

Either way, Deontay Wilder wants far more than $7m to face Anthony Joshua.

Do you agree with this, since you don't appear to be able to substantiate your original claim?

@SaadOffTheDeck - Your silence is delicious!

Do you still honestly believe that Deontay Wilder only wants $7m to face Anthony Joshua or will you admit to speculating utter bóllócks?

What's Wilders highest purse to date? $1.5m? Give or take?
Don't know what he would "want" to fight Joshua but barring it being silly money it wouldn't be a problem. Charles Martin was paid $5m to come to UK and fight AJ. Wilder would get well paid .

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 04:51 7 million is far from exorbitant.

Ridiculous amount of cash, especially for someone who only fought bums like Stiverne and only runs away scared from B-level opposition like Briggs, Mansour, Whyte, Hughie Fury, name them.
I even doubt if Parker deserves such an amount.

Fight is too risky for Joshua . He can make more money fighting lesser opponents.

Grailer wrote: ↑07 Nov 2017, 01:36 Fight is too risky for Joshua . He can make more money fighting lesser opponents.

Don't think he can make more. Only fight that'd be more lucrative is Fury and that's a looooong way away if ever.
AJ can certainly make millions fighting lesser opponents, but maybe he wants to prove he's #1, didn't have to fight Wlad in his 19th fight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑06 Nov 2017, 04:51 7 million is far from exorbitant.

Your silence is delicious!

Do you still honestly believe that Deontay Wilder only wants $7m to face Anthony Joshua or will you admit to speculating utter bóllócks?