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Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 14:16
by stujones
The thread about Honeyghun and the discussion on how Honeyghun vs Marsh would have been huge box office - got me think about British fights that were massive at the time but now completely forgotton about... what were your memories of these fights and why are they no longer discussed.
I'll start off with one - Bruno vs Bugner.... filled White Hart Lane if I am not mistaken. Bugner looked in pretty awful shape but was coming off a good run - Bruno was a pretty warm favourite but there was a view that Bugner might have the style to give Bruno problems.... a great chin and defense to see out the early Bruno onslaught. I can remember some very bold and confident predictions - am I dreaming or didn't Terry Marsh say he'd leave the UK if Bruno won that's how confident he was of a Bugner win.
Bugner dissapointed, but probably Bruno's most composed performance of his career.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 14:27
by littlepug
I remember getting exited about Lewis v Mason at the time, it wasn't on the scale of Bruno/Bugner but it was 2 undefeated big lads(both world ranked) fighting for all the domestic baubles, if I remember right either before or after the fight they (BBC) had an Ali/Frazier fight of the century doc on
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 14:50
by Andrew
I think Quigg v frampton will be in this catergory.
Was big at the time lots of demand for it but very forgetful.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 14:53
by Boxerbeetle
Naandrew wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:50
I think Quigg v frampton will be in this catergory.
Was big at the time lots of demand for it but very forgetful.
Definitely. Can’t believe we were all so excited about it, seems silly now in retrospect.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 15:07
by TheGingerBomber
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:53
Naandrew wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:50
I think Quigg v frampton will be in this catergory.
Was big at the time lots of demand for it but very forgetful.
Definitely. Can’t believe we were all so excited about it, seems silly now in retrospect.
I'd be excited if there was a rematch.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 15:18
by bigjack
There were several big fights in the 80s such as Kaylor v Sibson that were true trade fights that also got the general public talking about them.Yeh Bruno v Bugner was massive,i went to that and it had huge coverage.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 15:27
by KiwiRider
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:07
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:53
Naandrew wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:50
I think Quigg v frampton will be in this catergory.
Was big at the time lots of demand for it but very forgetful.
Definitely. Can’t believe we were all so excited about it, seems silly now in retrospect.
I'd be excited if there was a rematch.
Me too!
But it would have to happen soon, I think Frampton is unfortunately on the slide.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 15:57
by Boxerbeetle
KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:27
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:07
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:53
Definitely. Can’t believe we were all so excited about it, seems silly now in retrospect.
I'd be excited if there was a rematch.
Me too!
But it would have to happen soon, I think Frampton is unfortunately on the slide.
I’d be interested certainly. But not excited, and wouldn’t bother buying the PPV.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 16:06
by stujones
littlepug wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:27
I remember getting exited about Lewis v Mason at the time, it wasn't on the scale of Bruno/Bugner but it was 2 undefeated big lads(both world ranked) fighting for all the domestic baubles, if I remember right either before or after the fight they (BBC) had an Ali/Frazier fight of the century doc on
Yeah it was big, personally myself and my family always thought Lewis was a class above. Perhaps it was because we were not on the Bruno bandwagon and we saw Mason as a clone - so we saw Mason as a decent but domestic level operator. It was a big fight though and yes, I remember the Ali vs Frazier doc also - 30 year anniversary if I remember rightly - showed the fight in full.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 16:11
by TheGingerBomber
KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:27
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:07
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:53
Definitely. Can’t believe we were all so excited about it, seems silly now in retrospect.
I'd be excited if there was a rematch.
Me too!
But it would have to happen soon, I think Frampton is unfortunately on the slide.
I reckon Quigg ain't improving either, he's got worse since Frampton fight. Though on paper he has a couple of solid wins at featherweight.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 17:57
by jamamb
jamie cox vs ferenc albert
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 19:42
by knockout
Didn't Terry Marsh jump of Tower Bridge as part of the lost bet he had on Bugner beating Bruno ??
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 08 Nov 2017, 21:48
by ElJefe
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:57
KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:27
TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:07
I'd be excited if there was a rematch.
Me too!
But it would have to happen soon, I think Frampton is unfortunately on the slide.
I’d be interested certainly. But not excited, and wouldn’t bother buying the PPV.
The lack of consideration for his defence that Quigg has shown in his last couple of fights would at least make it more interesting than the first fight. Hardly any significant punches thrown for about 8 rounds in that one. Quigg seemed to think he could box to a win. Wasn't Gallagher apparently surprised that Sky had Quigg losing all of the early rounds even though he'd hardly moved his hands? You'd think Freddie would be on him to be aggressive earlier if there was a rematch.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 09 Nov 2017, 04:57
by keirw
ElJefe wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:48
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:57
KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 15:27
Me too!
But it would have to happen soon, I think Frampton is unfortunately on the slide.
I’d be interested certainly. But not excited, and wouldn’t bother buying the PPV.
The lack of consideration for his defence that Quigg has shown in his last couple of fights would at least make it more interesting than the first fight. Hardly any significant punches thrown for about 8 rounds in that one. Quigg seemed to think he could box to a win. Wasn't Gallagher apparently surprised that Sky had Quigg losing all of the early rounds even though he'd hardly moved his hands? You'd think Freddie would be on him to be aggressive earlier if there was a rematch.
Gallagher had some weird tactics in that fight.
Despite telling everyone what a machine Quigg is, he makes him do nothing for 6 rounds in the hope he will take over down the stretch.
Since moving to Roach, Quigg seems to just March forward constantly until the opponents wilt.
Though, given his physical attributes that is probably his only chance he has of beating any of the top guys at feather.
I'd be intrigued to see a rematch, Frampton won the first half of their fight without breaking a sweat but looked uncomfortable once Quigg started upping the tempo.
It would be interesting to see if Quigg could fight like that for twelve, and if so, if Frampton could deal with it and still find a way to win.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 09:14
by PredatorHayds
Not on the massive scale but worth a shout.
Khan-Alexander. It was a real trade fight in the build up. 50/50 fight. Khan did a job on him and the fight has pretty much been forgotten.
Doesn’t help that both have been on the slide since then. But at the time it was a good match-up
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 09:39
by littlepug
Hamed v Robinson was a big fight if I remember rightly
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 10:33
by milpool
I'll throw one in here...McGuigan v McDonnell. Big fight that isn't discussed much these days.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 13:33
by stujones
milpool wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 10:33
I'll throw one in here...McGuigan v McDonnell. Big fight that isn't discussed much these days.
Memory is a bit hazy but too be honest - I thought McGuigan was too big a favourite for it too be considered a big fight.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 13:34
by stujones
littlepug wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 09:39
Hamed v Robinson was a big fight if I remember rightly
Great call, another stadium filler.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 10 Nov 2017, 17:22
by tobyh5
stujones wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:16
The thread about Honeyghun and the discussion on how Honeyghun vs Marsh would have been huge box office - got me think about British fights that were massive at the time but now completely forgotton about... what were your memories of these fights and why are they no longer discussed.
I'll start off with one - Bruno vs Bugner.... filled White Hart Lane if I am not mistaken. Bugner looked in pretty awful shape but was coming off a good run - Bruno was a pretty warm favourite but there was a view that Bugner might have the style to give Bruno problems.... a great chin and defense to see out the early Bruno onslaught. I can remember some very bold and confident predictions - am I dreaming or didn't Terry Marsh say he'd leave the UK if Bruno won that's how confident he was of a Bugner win.
Bugner dissapointed, but probably Bruno's most composed performance of his career.
First fight I saw live. I was sat down above the pub we owned in Mortlake, getting set to watch it on TV later that night. I was 12 years old. Old man came upstairs and said, "Want to watch the fight?" I said, "Yeah, in a couple hours", then he flashed two tickets out of his pocket with "come on then, lets go".
I kept the tickets for years, silver and blue coloured, only lost them when moving house one year ago but they may be here somewhere hidden in a book or something. October 24th, 1987. We were on the side of the stadium with the ropes that Bugner sat on in the last round in front of us. I remember Sam Fox being introduced to the crowd before, even at 12 I could appreciate those knockers.
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 16:59
by Tuan_Jim
tobyh5 wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 17:22
stujones wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 14:16
The thread about Honeyghun and the discussion on how Honeyghun vs Marsh would have been huge box office - got me think about British fights that were massive at the time but now completely forgotton about... what were your memories of these fights and why are they no longer discussed.
I'll start off with one - Bruno vs Bugner.... filled White Hart Lane if I am not mistaken. Bugner looked in pretty awful shape but was coming off a good run - Bruno was a pretty warm favourite but there was a view that Bugner might have the style to give Bruno problems.... a great chin and defense to see out the early Bruno onslaught. I can remember some very bold and confident predictions - am I dreaming or didn't Terry Marsh say he'd leave the UK if Bruno won that's how confident he was of a Bugner win.
Bugner dissapointed, but probably Bruno's most composed performance of his career.
First fight I saw live. I was sat down above the pub we owned in Mortlake, getting set to watch it on TV later that night. I was 12 years old. Old man came upstairs and said, "Want to watch the fight?" I said, "Yeah, in a couple hours", then he flashed two tickets out of his pocket with "come on then, lets go".
I kept the tickets for years, silver and blue coloured, only lost them when moving house one year ago but they may be here somewhere hidden in a book or something. October 24th, 1987. We were on the side of the stadium with the ropes that Bugner sat on in the last round in front of us. I remember Sam Fox being introduced to the crowd before, even at 12 I could appreciate those knockers.
Brilliant!
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 17:44
by revporl
The coverage of Bruno vs Bugner was 8ostastic! An hour of ridiculous celebrity coverage before the fight. It's on YouTube somewhere. Ace fun
Re: Overlooked massive fights.
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 09:38
by bennie
Kaylor-Gumbs was a massive fight at the time (1983) at a packed Ally Pally - the first shootout between the Cartel (Duff, Lawless, Barrett & Astaire) and F rank Warren for British and Commonwealth middleweight titles. Gumbs, the champion, put Kaylor down but then walked on to a peach of a right hand as he went in for the finish and was beaten at that very point, although he stayed in the fight a little longer. Kaylor, who was almost superhuman on the night, put the Cartel one up.