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As we all know, Whyte offered him a record payday which was over twice as much as Wilder ever made with any fight. Somehow Wilder ducked him, like he always ducks everyone with a heartbeat. But let's imagine Wilder would have dared to show up for a reasonable amount of cash? How much does he deserve? 10%? Or even more?

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asdfjkl wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:22 As we all know, Whyte offered him a record payday which was over twice as much as Wilder ever made with any fight. Somehow Wilder ducked him, like he always ducks everyone with a heartbeat. But let's imagine Wilder would have dared to show up for a reasonable amount of cash? How much does he deserve? 10%? Or even more?

Again this just shows your hatred.
You don't even make a good troll

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:28

asdfjkl wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:22 As we all know, Whyte offered him a record payday which was over twice as much as Wilder ever made with any fight. Somehow Wilder ducked him, like he always ducks everyone with a heartbeat. But let's imagine Wilder would have dared to show up for a reasonable amount of cash? How much does he deserve? 10%? Or even more?

Again this just shows your hatred.
You don't even make a good troll

Well, he will gain some status which will give him a good case to fight AJ, so then he can get like 15% against AJ, which is a total of a lot more money as he currently deserves against AJ. So fighting Whyte for almost free makes a lot of sense. Briggs for example also offered to fight Wilder for free.

Briggs is a big step down for a Wilder opponent. Whyte is the norm.

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:34 Briggs is a big step down for a Wilder opponent. Whyte is the norm.

Then what's Duhaupas? Washington? Stiverne? Arreola? Molina?

asdfjkl wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 22:52

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:34 Briggs is a big step down for a Wilder opponent. Whyte is the norm.

Then what's Duhaupas? Washington? Stiverne? Arreola? Molina?

I'll take guys that would kick the shit out of Briggs for 200, Alex.

Whyte is no mug he can fight alright I wouldn't take him lightly if I were Wilder.
The split ... top of my head 80-20 for Wilder.

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what a tard the op is

I don't get it. Why are we talking percentages for this? The offer to Wilder was $3m + whatever he can get for US TV rights. I heard this may increase to $4m (+ whatev ....) What Hearn has offered to Whyte I don't know nor much care.

This is a fight that makes very good sense. If Wilder is half as good as he thinks he is, he will dispatch Whyte, collect a bumper pay-cheque and get UK casuals to sit up and take notice (Who was that masked man?).

I know US fans rate Whyte no better than some of Wilder's previous opponents. Even if they are proved right so what, he isn't any worse and since when has Wilder rejected an opponent based on their not passing 'quality control'?

Take the fight Deontay - it's money for jam ... or is it?

Most U.S fans don't know who Whyte is , that's just a fact.
Don't get me wrong if I could sell Whyte legitimately I would but most people don't know him.
Yes we do but most don't.

From a commercial perspective, Deontay Wilder shouldn't expect or deserve to receive a purse split any larger than 25%.

Whilst that might sound low, if the total combined purse pot is $36m, the American's payday would equate to $9m, which is 500% (or six times) more than his career-high payday of $1.5m.

In this scenario, AJ would receive the lion's share, which would be about $27m. Joshua earned about $20m against Takam (75% split) and Klitschko (50% split).

The total purse pot for AJ's bouts against Klitschko and Takam/Pulev were $40m and $25m respectively, hence the reason for my rather ambitious $36m estimate (despite me believing that this bout isn't much bigger than Joshua-Takam/Pulev).

I'll tell you the truth.
If I were Wilder I would fight someone like Hughie Fury, an easy touch with almost a guaranteed knockout and he may come to the UK.
Wilder won't risk a Whyte fight with so little on the line.

Whyte should get 20% and some decent medical and dental insurance. National 'ealth ain't gonna cut it after Wilder has finished with him

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:49 I'll tell you the truth.
If I were Wilder I would fight someone like Hughie Fury, an easy touch with almost a guaranteed knockout and he may come to the UK.
Wilder won't risk a Whyte fight with so little on the line.

Whyte is the highest ranked WBC title challenger. Stiverne was battered last weekend and Ortiz tested positive for banned substances.

Wilder will have to fight Whyte at some point, if the AJ bout fails to materialise.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:59

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:49 I'll tell you the truth.
If I were Wilder I would fight someone like Hughie Fury, an easy touch with almost a guaranteed knockout and he may come to the UK.
Wilder won't risk a Whyte fight with so little on the line.

Whyte is the highest ranked WBC title challenger. Stiverne was battered last weekend and Ortiz tested positive for banned substances.

Wilder will have to fight Whyte at some point, if the AJ bout fails to materialise.

Not necessarily boxing doesn't quite work that way.

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:44 Most U.S fans don't know who Whyte is , that's just a fact.
Don't get me wrong if I could sell Whyte legitimately I would but most people don't know him.
Yes we do but most don't.

Most US fans don’t know who wilder is, which is why the bout only makes sense in England, to build profile and earn money doing it.

People on here can write off Whyte, but he would be at least a ranked opponent on Wilders record. I was looking over Wilders record last night, and the rankings of his opponents is absolutely woeful. At least give Whyte that much

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 04:24

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:59

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:49 I'll tell you the truth.
If I were Wilder I would fight someone like Hughie Fury, an easy touch with almost a guaranteed knockout and he may come to the UK.
Wilder won't risk a Whyte fight with so little on the line.

Whyte is the highest ranked WBC title challenger. Stiverne was battered last weekend and Ortiz tested positive for banned substances.

Wilder will have to fight Whyte at some point, if the AJ bout fails to materialise.

Not necessarily boxing doesn't quite work that way.

Agreed, but Wilder cannot avoid Whyte indefinitely, unles the Brit loses or fails a PED test.

candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:41 I don't get it. Why are we talking percentages for this? The offer to Wilder was $3m + whatever he can get for US TV rights. I heard this may increase to $4m (+ whatev ....) What Hearn has offered to Whyte I don't know nor much care.

This is a fight that makes very good sense. If Wilder is half as good as he thinks he is, he will dispatch Whyte, collect a bumper pay-cheque and get UK casuals to sit up and take notice (Who was that masked man?).

I know US fans rate Whyte no better than some of Wilder's previous opponents. Even if they are proved right so what, he isn't any worse and since when has Wilder rejected an opponent based on their not passing 'quality control'?

Take the fight Deontay - it's money for jam ... or is it?

You’ve got plenty of casuals in the UK who think Whyte is the second best heavyweight in the world. Wilder crushing him would make them take notice for sure

Evander wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:44 Most U.S fans don't know who Whyte is , that's just a fact.
Don't get me wrong if I could sell Whyte legitimately I would but most people don't know him.
Yes we do but most don't.

But they knew Szpilka and Duhaupas?

Don't take this wrong Evander but this one is for the Brits. It doesn't matter too much if the match-up doesn't wow the Americans. It's UK casuals that need to be convinced that Wilder is the opponent to really test Joshua.

Is Wilder's stateside profile going to skyrocket if he KTFOs Miller, Breazeale or Ruiz? I don't think so.

lillywhite14 wrote:

candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:41 I don't get it. Why are we talking percentages for this? The offer to Wilder was $3m + whatever he can get for US TV rights. I heard this may increase to $4m (+ whatev ....) What Hearn has offered to Whyte I don't know nor much care.

This is a fight that makes very good sense. If Wilder is half as good as he thinks he is, he will dispatch Whyte, collect a bumper pay-cheque and get UK casuals to sit up and take notice (Who was that masked man?).

I know US fans rate Whyte no better than some of Wilder's previous opponents. Even if they are proved right so what, he isn't any worse and since when has Wilder rejected an opponent based on their not passing 'quality control'?

Take the fight Deontay - it's money for jam ... or is it?

You’ve got plenty of casuals in the UK who think Whyte is the second best heavyweight in the world. Wilder crushing him would make them take notice for sure

I'd like to believe the first half of that statement is wrong but the second half is certainly true

Evander wrote:I'll tell you the truth.
If I were Wilder I would fight someone like Hughie Fury, an easy touch with almost a guaranteed knockout and he may come to the UK.
Wilder won't risk a Whyte fight with so little on the line.

Nobody is going to offer $3m for Wilder to fight Hughie. I wouldn't expect Hughie to win but he's not the pushover you seem to thinks he is. He is very elusive, very hard to pin down. Deontay won't be able to outbox him. He has a good chin - probably not Wilder-proof but good, and he has the stamina to keep frustrating Wilder all night long.

There is a danger that the WBC make their top rated heavyweight their mandatory challenger. Not guaranteed admittedly, they may just give it to Molina or someone, they don't seem to care about their reputation, but if they do then if Hearn decides to play hardball then Whyte gets his title shot and Deontay takes a pay cut.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 23:21

asdfjkl wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 22:52

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑08 Nov 2017, 21:34 Briggs is a big step down for a Wilder opponent. Whyte is the norm.

Then what's Duhaupas? Washington? Stiverne? Arreola? Molina?

I'll take guys that would kick the poo out of Briggs for 200, Alex.

ander Povetkin?

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 05:13

candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:41 I don't get it. Why are we talking percentages for this? The offer to Wilder was $3m + whatever he can get for US TV rights. I heard this may increase to $4m (+ whatev ....) What Hearn has offered to Whyte I don't know nor much care.

This is a fight that makes very good sense. If Wilder is half as good as he thinks he is, he will dispatch Whyte, collect a bumper pay-cheque and get UK casuals to sit up and take notice (Who was that masked man?).

I know US fans rate Whyte no better than some of Wilder's previous opponents. Even if they are proved right so what, he isn't any worse and since when has Wilder rejected an opponent based on their not passing 'quality control'?

Take the fight Deontay - it's money for jam ... or is it?

You’ve got plenty of casuals in the UK who think Whyte is the second best heavyweight in the world. Wilder crushing him would make them take notice for sure

If Whyte is such a big deal in the UK why not just book the rematch?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:51

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 05:13

candyslim wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 03:41 I don't get it. Why are we talking percentages for this? The offer to Wilder was $3m + whatever he can get for US TV rights. I heard this may increase to $4m (+ whatev ....) What Hearn has offered to Whyte I don't know nor much care.

This is a fight that makes very good sense. If Wilder is half as good as he thinks he is, he will dispatch Whyte, collect a bumper pay-cheque and get UK casuals to sit up and take notice (Who was that masked man?).

I know US fans rate Whyte no better than some of Wilder's previous opponents. Even if they are proved right so what, he isn't any worse and since when has Wilder rejected an opponent based on their not passing 'quality control'?

Take the fight Deontay - it's money for jam ... or is it?

You’ve got plenty of casuals in the UK who think Whyte is the second best heavyweight in the world. Wilder crushing him would make them take notice for sure

If Whyte is such a big deal in the UK why not just book the rematch?

Whytes already been emphatically put away by Joshua, dont think that one needs doing again!

He’s also ranked in the wbc, the path leading to wilder

Wilder vs Whyte is a win win for Joshua really. He either gets an opponent who has built the fight more, or he’s getting a grudge match rematch