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gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents...

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:43 when did he fight? I cant remember?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:21

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:22

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:21

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

x2x wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 18:43

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents...

Neither has Wilder fought any especially dangerous opponents, but Harold Sconiers put him on his ass and Molina had him in big trouble before apparently deliberately backing off and he was ko'd in the amareurs. Wilder's handlers know his weakness and got him out of facing Ortiz with the drug trick. They want to cash out on him with a big money fight with Joshua... but then Joshua's handlers know how dangerous Wilder's punches are and they don't want to lose their cash cow either!

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:23

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:22

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:21 Agree with the first part, second part... He could, but just as likely could get knocked down himself

No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:26

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:23

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:22
No doubt. That's why it's such a bummer that we didn't get to see it. It almost certainly would've been the most competitive bout in each man's career.

Both guys had the power to hurt the other.

Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:30

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:26

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:23 Yeah it’s pretty disappointing how that one played out

It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:32

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:30

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:26
It played out exactly as predicted months and months beforehand, everybody who knows something about the heavyweights knew this fight would never happen and Wilder would fight a bum, most likely Stiverne, even that was predicted. Even the date when the not happening Ortiz fight would be signed was predicted and despite predicting it like two months beforehand, the actual date was less then 24 hours of and that was included the fight never actually happening.

You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

Well you got your proof now right?

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:06

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:32

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:30 You did predict this stuff but the conspiracy theories are nothing without any proof etc

Well you got your proof now right?

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:31

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:06

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 14:32
Well you got your proof now right?

That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 16:44 Probably not, but that's not saying much considering he's never fought any especially dangerous opponents. Wilder probably would've knocked him down.

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:34

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:31

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:06 That’s not proof mate. Nobodies getting convicted on tjat

You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

asdfjkl wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 03:12

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:34

asdfjkl wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:31
You just assume it to be a whole pile of uncredebly lucky guesses?

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:23

asdfjkl wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 03:12

Ossyrules wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 15:34 Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. You’ve got a conspiracy theory. If you wanted wilder and his team found guilty, you need proof

Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

asdfjkl wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:55

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:23

asdfjkl wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 03:12
Ducking Whyte for 5 mil and accepting a better boxer for 2 mil is no proof for you?
Wilder saying funny things like "don't fail a test, don't screw it up" all the time doesn't make it any suspicious? While saying things like "I know what you're doing, you're faking you can't show up because of a hurricane to use doping!". Meanwhile, while I predicted he was going to fight a bum, named Stiverne months beforehand, Stiverne who did got busted with drugs, but Wilder clearly had no problems with that, and win by KO1, I also predicted that right, I was even worried about Stiverne his life and not for no reason. What kind of proof do you want to have? That Wilder knew all these things beforehand? Wilder is the guy who's spreading conspiracy theories, not me. "AJ is scared to unify", "I know I'm the best in the world", first he acts like he pays of Stiverne, while Stiverne acts like he wants to fight Breazeale, which he would lose badly. But then his 2,5 mil paydsy doesn't go trough, remarkebly exactly like predicted, so you expect him to move on to the more easy fight with a 5 mil paydsy right? But no ofcourse not, he makes the bum run out of his contract and fight him for 1,5 mil instead despite just buying him off?! Like the bum would accept that? Oh wait, he does accept that?! Yea sorry mate, but what more evidence do you need?

In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

Yea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTPRQq02XU



Goddamn this website and forum is screwed up nowadays

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:06

asdfjkl wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:55

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:23
In my country proof or evidence isn’t circumstantial sequence of events that you’ve predicted. Thatd be handy in proving events, but it’s not proof. You’d need some kind of lance Armstrong operation to out a lot of people if you wanted to actually prove this

Yea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTPRQq02XU

Goddamn this website and forum is screwed up nowadays

No idea what that clip of me, myself and Irene has to do with anything