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Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 06:28
by Crease
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder
Joshua vs Parker
Joshua vs Fury
Wilder vs Fury
Wilder vs Parker
Parker vs Fury
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 06:44
by dirk2686
Some of these are obviously dependent on location, (Parker draws a decent crowd in New Zealand but as shown at the Hughie fight gets very few people interested in the UK.)
Joshua blows the lot out of the water and obviously would need a massive percentage for UK based fights.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 07:08
by Ossyrules
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 75-25
Joshua vs Parker 75-25
Joshua vs Fury 60-40
Wilder vs Fury 45-55
Wilder vs Parker 50-50
Parker vs Fury 45-55
They are all give or take about 5% ish to get the fights made
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 07:15
by wesshaw1985
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 60-40
Joshua vs Parker 65-35
Joshua vs Fury 55-45
Wilder vs Fury 50-50
Wilder vs Parker 60-40
Parker vs Fury 40-60
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 08:05
by BitPlayer
I'd make them all 10% each way and the winner gets the rest.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 08:27
by Ossyrules
BitPlayer wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 08:05
I'd make them all 10% each way and the winner gets the rest.
Not many boxers sign for you!
But I see theory theory. Prize money essentially
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 11:54
by tiny_acres
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 60-40
Joshua vs Parker 70-30
Joshua vs Fury 55-45
Wilder vs Fury 50-50
Wilder vs Parker 70-30
Parker vs Fury 30-70
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 18:59
by jamamb
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 11:54
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 60-40
Joshua vs Parker 70-30
Joshua vs Fury 55-45
Wilder vs Fury 50-50
Wilder vs Parker 70-30
Parker vs Fury 30-70
why would wilder be 70-30 for parker unification? is he that much more of a draw? if aj-parker is 70-30 no way wilder-parker is
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 19:07
by leejonesjnr
Wilder, Parker and (why is he included?) Fury would be 50-50 in any which order
Joshua is the big draw and generates the money but Wilder and Parker are on his 'want' list as the belts they hold add value so 60-40 in Joshuas favour should make everyone involved happy.
For Fury to be a worthwhile opponent for Joshua he will need to pick up a belt or settle for a smallish percentage, Joshua is filling the largest venues we have and selling decent PPVs against whomever from this point on. Fury just doesn't add value.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 03:10
by asdfjkl
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 95/5
Joshua vs Parker 70/30
Joshua vs Fury 50/50
Wilder vs Fury 5/95
Wilder vs Parker 20/80
Parker vs Fury 30/70
I must say with that that Wilder can easely gain 25% by beating Takam, Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Breazeale, Ortiz, or even new talents, like Dubois.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 03:45
by TheGoods
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 19:07
Wilder, Parker and (why is he included?) Fury would be 50-50 in any which order
Joshua is the big draw and generates the money but Wilder and Parker are on his 'want' list as the belts they hold add value so 60-40 in Joshuas favour should make everyone involved happy.
For Fury to be a worthwhile opponent for Joshua he will need to pick up a belt or settle for a smallish percentage, Joshua is filling the largest venues we have and selling decent PPVs against whomever from this point on. Fury just doesn't add value.
Fury doesn't add value? Are you sure? The PPV's would be off the scale does he hell need to win a belt first. 60-40
would be about right tho.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 04:31
by jamamb
id expect aj-fury to be massive and beyond what aj does for pretty much anyone else, which are already great numbers. fury alone isnt nearly the draw aj is but i think if you pair them he brings value and it would explode.aj still should get the greater amount but i think fury brings more than parker and wilder even though hes a slob who would get steamrolled.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 05:21
by davie
Don't think any of those guys should be settling for below 30%. 3 of them hold titles and Fury is a big name.
They will all push for as much as they can get obviously. But holding out for more than 60/40, (which would only really happen in AJ's case) is trying to undermine your opponent and could be accused of ducking. Taking a 60% cut in a unification is more than fair regardless of your popularity IMO
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 05:22
by davie
asdfjkl wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 03:10
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 95/5
Joshua vs Parker 70/30
Joshua vs Fury 50/50
Wilder vs Fury 5/95
Wilder vs Parker 20/80
Parker vs Fury 30/70
I must say with that that Wilder can easely gain 25% by beating Takam, Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Breazeale, Ortiz, or even new talents, like Dubois.
At least try to disguise the fact that you are an obvious hater and troll mate. That's what the good trolls do.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 05:53
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 03:10
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 95/5
Joshua vs Parker 70/30
Joshua vs Fury 50/50
Wilder vs Fury 5/95
Wilder vs Parker 20/80
Parker vs Fury 30/70
I must say with that that Wilder can easely gain 25% by beating Takam, Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Breazeale, Ortiz, or even new talents, like Dubois.
5% for wilder
I’m not a fan but the wbc champ isn’t fighting anyone for 5%
And beat 4 fight novice Dubois who looks red raw, a 19yo kid whose only fought small men so far, gives wilder no credibility. If wilder made a Dubois fight he should be hounded out of boxing
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 07:53
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 05:53
asdfjkl wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 03:10
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 95/5
Joshua vs Parker 70/30
Joshua vs Fury 50/50
Wilder vs Fury 5/95
Wilder vs Parker 20/80
Parker vs Fury 30/70
I must say with that that Wilder can easely gain 25% by beating Takam, Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Breazeale, Ortiz, or even new talents, like Dubois.
5% for wilder
I’m not a fan but the wbc champ isn’t fighting anyone for 5%
And beat 4 fight novice Dubois who looks red raw, a 19yo kid whose only fought small men so far, gives wilder no credibility. If wilder made a Dubois fight he should be hounded out of boxing
But KO1 a retired old small fat doping using guy does give him credibility? Sorry, but you'll have to at least some kind of proof yourself before you can ask any money from a champion at all. I'm not even saying he'll lose against Povetkin for example any more, since Povetkin clearly is a lot worse compared to what he used to be. But really, if you're still fighting E level guys like Stiverne, who would be beaten by well over a 100 guys, then what the hell makes you think he deserves a top level fight? He could chose for 4 mil from Whyte, but no, he chose 1,5 mil from a bum. That's oké, but then don't ask for a titlefight and especially not demanding more as 5% of the cash.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 07:56
by leejonesjnr
TheGoods wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 03:45
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 19:07
Wilder, Parker and (why is he included?) Fury would be 50-50 in any which order
Joshua is the big draw and generates the money but Wilder and Parker are on his 'want' list as the belts they hold add value so 60-40 in Joshuas favour should make everyone involved happy.
For Fury to be a worthwhile opponent for Joshua he will need to pick up a belt or settle for a smallish percentage, Joshua is filling the largest venues we have and selling decent PPVs against whomever from this point on. Fury just doesn't add value.
Fury doesn't add value? Are you sure? The PPV's would be off the scale does he hell need to win a belt first. 60-40
would be about right tho.
Yeah I’m sure. He couldn’t fill an arena at home for a Wlad fight. He isn’t a draw.
Winning a belt first simply makes him more attractive to Joshua as having something Joshua wants. I’m not a massive AJ fan but he is in the driving seat, has no shortage of options and will get paid gargantuan sums against literally anybody.
Joshua v Wilder or Parker will fill any stadium in the U.K.
Would Fury v either do the same? Would it fill an Arena?
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 08:08
by dirk2686
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 07:56Yeah I’m sure. He couldn’t fill an arena at home for a Wlad fight. He isn’t a draw.
Winning a belt first simply makes him more attractive to Joshua as having something Joshua wants. I’m not a massive AJ fan but he is in the driving seat, has no shortage of options and will get paid gargantuan sums against literally anybody.
Joshua v Wilder or Parker will fill any stadium in the U.K.
Would Fury v either do the same? Would it fill an Arena?
I said earlier a lot of this has to do with where the fight happens, but realistically, if they happened in the UK, these would be the sort of locations that would be realistic:
Joshua vs Wilder: Wembley Stadium.
Joshua vs Parker: Wembley Stadium.
Joshua vs Fury: Wembley Stadium.
Wilder vs Fury: Wembley Arena.
Wilder vs Parker: I'll discount this given it's an American fighter vs a New Zealander.
Parker vs Fury: Copperbox.
I think that illustrates something about the respective draw of those involved.
Re: Big 4 Heavies fight purses - YOUR SAY
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 08:25
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 05:53
asdfjkl wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 03:10
Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:28
So if the big fights were in negotiation - and you had the FINAL say on the purse splits.
And here are the fights:
Joshua vs Wilder 95/5
Joshua vs Parker 70/30
Joshua vs Fury 50/50
Wilder vs Fury 5/95
Wilder vs Parker 20/80
Parker vs Fury 30/70
I must say with that that Wilder can easely gain 25% by beating Takam, Whyte, Andy Ruiz Jr, Povetkin, Miller, Jun Long Zhang, Breazeale, Ortiz, or even new talents, like Dubois.
5% for wilder
I’m not a fan but the wbc champ isn’t fighting anyone for 5%
And beat 4 fight novice Dubois who looks red raw, a 19yo kid whose only fought small men so far, gives wilder no credibility. If wilder made a Dubois fight he should be hounded out of boxing
Dubois would steamroll that Zhang this nut job is obsessed with