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Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 23:38
by elmersalsa
It was probably the best fight of the 1980s decade. The great Alexis Arguello of Nicaragua, was attempting to become the first boxer in history to win 4 world crowns in 4 different weight classes. The Battle at the Orange Bowl was a brutal fight between two all time greats that went at it blow by blow for 14 unforgettable rounds.
The Cincinnati Hawk, Aaron Pryor, was making the 6th title defense of his WBA World Jr Welterweight crown. At 27, Pryor was a whirlwind non-stopping boxing machine hungry for world wide recognition. It seemed that the big fights were hard for him to come by. He was a complete boxer that could box and slug it out with the best of them. His biggest win up to that point, was a 4th round TKO win against aging champion Antonio Cervantes of Colombia, in which he became that day world champion. He has been a hungry fighter since losing to Howard Davis at the 1976 Olympic box offs. And from 1977, he had a winning knockout streak of 24 bouts! All of his 5 title defenses were won by knockout. A jump to welterweight was a natural and logical for bigger paydays since the great Sugar Ray Leonard, the world welterweight champion from Palmer Park, MD, was the sport's biggest superstar. But Leonard retired because he suffered a detached retina, and a fight with The Hawk never came to be. It never happened. There came the Explosive Thin Man Arguello. Who at 30, was fighting in his 4th weight class. He was already champion at featherweight, Jr lightweight and lightweight, and had won 19 title bouts in a row. He never lost his crowns. And the only time to that point that he lost a title fight, was in his first attempt in a points loss of trying to take the WBA featherweight crown from Ernesto Marcel of Panama. Already considered an all time great, can he pull it off one more time.
So the whole world was expecting a thrilling contest between two fighter's that could win big by stoppage. The question was in what round. Well, they threw blows in a terrific pace that amazed the 40,000 spectators at the Orange Bowl in Miami, FL. It was a see saw battle from start to finish. None of the two greats gave an inch. Arguello hit Pryor with vicious shots to the chin that another Jr Welterweight would have been on the floor. But not Pryor. He was fighting the right of his life. Pryor also hit Arguello with tremendous shots, but Arguello wasn't going anywhere. Both men were in extraordinary shape.
By the end of the 13th round, and before the 14th, Pryor's chief trainer, Panama Ray Lewis came with a mysterious "black bottle". He was clearly heard through the HBO TV's microphone cameras telling someone in the corner to give him the black bottle, "The one I mixed". What liquid was inside that bottle? We will never know. But it seemed to give The Cincinnati Hawk the energy he needed it. He came out storming and punching the taller foe and eventually, The Explosive Thin Man, was in trouble. Pryor went for the kill and never let up, throwing around 15 unanswered blows to Arguello's face and suddenly, the South African referee, Stanley Christodoulu, had to stop the onslaught. Pryor retained his crown in the greatest victory of his boxing career.
It was a fight to remember for the ages! It was a Friday night, of November 12, 1982.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 11:02
by SaadOffTheDeck
Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 14:48
by Jaywheel
Great fight. This fight and Castillo/Corrales are two amazing contests that are almost ruined by the way they ended.
Oh and:
elmersalsa wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:38The Cincinnati Hawk, Aaron Pryor, He was a complete boxer

Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 16:26
by elmersalsa
Jaywheel wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 14:48
Great fight. This fight and Castillo/Corrales are two amazing contests that are almost ruined by the way they ended.
Oh and:
elmersalsa wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:38The Cincinnati Hawk, Aaron Pryor, He was a complete boxer
What was the laughing matter?
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 16:47
by Jaywheel
You and your assertions as usual.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 18:59
by elmersalsa
Jaywheel wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 16:47
You and your assertions as usual.
You don't think that Aaron Pryor was a complete boxer?
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 19:05
by SaadOffTheDeck
I hope not, he was terrible defensively.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 22:05
by Jaywheel
Dude ate punches for beakfast, diner and lunch ffs

Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 10:40
by elmersalsa
Jaywheel wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 22:05
Dude ate punches for beakfast, diner and lunch ffs
He took them. That means he had a great chin. Defense was not his thing. But he could box, fight inside and slug it out with the best. And he had great foot and hand speed with decent power.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 13:26
by Jaywheel
Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.

Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:26
Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.
Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 18:26
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 15:23
Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:26
Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.
Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.
If a guy can fight inside and also could box, has a great chin, speed of hands and feet, underrated punching power, heart, will and determination, ain't he a complete boxer? The Cincinnati Hawk had those attributes of a complete boxer. Let's give the guy his due.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 19:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
elmersalsa wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 18:26
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 15:23
Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:26
Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.
Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.
If a guy can fight inside and also could box, has a great chin, speed of hands and feet, underrated punching power, heart, will and determination, ain't he a complete boxer? The Cincinnati Hawk had those attributes of a complete boxer. Let's give the guy his due.
Got it, defense is irrelevant to the sport.

Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:53
by Counter-puncher
The great Oscar De La Hoya was a MORE COMPLETE fighter than the great Aaron Pryor.
For what that's worth

Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 14:55
by Counter-puncher
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 11:02
Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.
It's strange, for a fight THAT good I have only seen it maybe three times. I'm easily into double figures on most fights that level. I guess I just don't like watching Arguello getting beat up.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 15:54
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:53
The great Oscar De La Hoya was a MORE COMPLETE fighter than the great Aaron Pryor.
For what that's worth

greater career too.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 15:56
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:55
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 11:02
Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.
It's strange, for a fight THAT good I have only seen it maybe three times. I'm easily into double figures on most fights that level. I guess I just don't like watching Arguello getting beat up.
I've only watched Castillo/corrales twice. Can't stand the scewjob, I've watched the rematch at least 6 or 7 times.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 16:12
by Counter-puncher
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:56
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:55
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 11:02
Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.
It's strange, for a fight THAT good I have only seen it maybe three times. I'm easily into double figures on most fights that level. I guess I just don't like watching Arguello getting beat up.
I've only watched Castillo/corrales twice. Can't stand the scewjob, I've watched the rematch at least 6 or 7 times.
Lol, I pretend the screw job never happened.
As soon as Chico gets up from the KD I'm just focussing on his counter left hook and gaying out over it. I was never hugely a fan of either man so having no dog in the fight can help sometimes.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 16:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:12
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:56
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:55
It's strange, for a fight THAT good I have only seen it maybe three times. I'm easily into double figures on most fights that level. I guess I just don't like watching Arguello getting beat up.
I've only watched Castillo/corrales twice. Can't stand the scewjob, I've watched the rematch at least 6 or 7 times.
Lol, I pretend the screw job never happened.
As soon as Chico gets up from the KD I'm just focussing on his counter left hook and gaying out over it. I was never hugely a fan of either man so having no dog in the fight can help sometimes.
I think it does, I liked both of them going in. Dragged my buddy from an all day drinking festival by my place and we bet $20, he took chico and from that point on I loved Castillo and hated corrales. I loved both of these guys. I think only hearns/Duran put more of my manlove in the same ring.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 16:37
by Counter-puncher
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:23
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:12
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:56
I've only watched Castillo/corrales twice. Can't stand the scewjob, I've watched the rematch at least 6 or 7 times.
Lol, I pretend the screw job never happened.
As soon as Chico gets up from the KD I'm just focussing on his counter left hook and gaying out over it. I was never hugely a fan of either man so having no dog in the fight can help sometimes.
I think it does, I liked both of them going in. Dragged my buddy from an all day drinking festival by my place and we bet $20, he took chico and from that point on I loved Castillo and hated corrales. I loved both of these guys. I think only hearns/Duran put more of my manlove in the same ring.
The Benn/Watson/Eubank triangle was mine, I really liked all of them in different ways.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 16:53
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:37
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:23
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 16:12
Lol, I pretend the screw job never happened.
As soon as Chico gets up from the KD I'm just focussing on his counter left hook and gaying out over it. I was never hugely a fan of either man so having no dog in the fight can help sometimes.
I think it does, I liked both of them going in. Dragged my buddy from an all day drinking festival by my place and we bet $20, he took chico and from that point on I loved Castillo and hated corrales. I loved both of these guys. I think only hearns/Duran put more of my manlove in the same ring.
The Benn/Watson/Eubank triangle was mine, I really liked all of them in different ways.
I picked up an extra $10 on this fight from my first post!
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 16 Nov 2017, 08:59
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:54
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:53
The great Oscar De La Hoya was a MORE COMPLETE fighter than the great Aaron Pryor.
For what that's worth

greater career too.
Bullshit.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 16 Nov 2017, 09:02
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 19:42
elmersalsa wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 18:26
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 15:23
Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.
If a guy can fight inside and also could box, has a great chin, speed of hands and feet, underrated punching power, heart, will and determination, ain't he a complete boxer? The Cincinnati Hawk had those attributes of a complete boxer. Let's give the guy his due.
Got it, defense is irrelevant to the sport.
His defense wasn't all that bad, because he was always on the offensive mode most of his fights. But, when he had to box, like in the Arguello fight, he showed his boxing skills.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 16 Nov 2017, 09:04
by elmersalsa
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:53
The great Oscar De La Hoya was a MORE COMPLETE fighter than the great Aaron Pryor.
For what that's worth
In the biggest fight of his career, Oscar De La Hoya, flunked BIG TIME.
Re: Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: 35 Years Later
Posted: 16 Nov 2017, 10:00
by Counter-puncher
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Nov 2017, 08:59
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 15:54
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:53
The great Oscar De La Hoya was a MORE COMPLETE fighter than the great Aaron Pryor.
For what that's worth

greater career too.
Bullshit.

'triggered' as the kids nowadays would say