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Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:16
by Ruthless-RKO
Top Rank on ESPN will kick off its 2018 season with a sensational Super Bowl weekend world championship event. GILBERTO "Zurdo" RAMÍREZ , Mexico's super middleweight champion with the matinee idol looks, defending his world title.

Ramírez (36-0, 24 KOs), from Mazatlan, Mexico, will make his third defense of his World Boxing Organization (WBO) super middleweight title against Top-Five world-rated contender HABIB "Wild Hurricane" AHMED (22-0, 17 KOs) from Accra, Ghana. The fight will take place on Saturday, February 3, at the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, TX, and will be televised live and exclusively at 10:30 p.m. EST on ESPN and ESPN Deportes and stream live on the ESPN App.

Ramírez and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum will announce the fight at a press conference on Thursday, November 16, at 11 a.m. CST,in the Henry Garrett Ballroom C, located inside the American Bank Center (1901 North Shoreline Blvd., Corpus Christie, TX 78401).

Promoted by Top Rank®, in association with Zapari Boxing Promotions, tickets to the Ramírez-Ahmed world championship event will go on sale This Thursday, November 16, at 10 a.m. CST-- the perfect fistivus holiday gift for your favorite boxing fan! Priced at $152, $102, $62, $42, and $27, including facility fees, tickets may be purchased online at Ticketmaster.com, at the American Bank Center Box Office, Monday - Friday, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. CT, or charge by phone at 1-800-745-3000.

"Gilberto Ramirez has proven that he is the best of the super middleweights All you have to do is look at his world championship victories against Arthur Abraham and Jesse Hart," said Arum. "Gilberto has quickly become the face of boxing on both sides of the border.

“Habib Ahmed is an undefeated fighter with a good knockout record. He is fighting outside of his home country for the first time and that makes him a very dangerous fighter,’ said Ramírez. “He knows that he has a great opportunity in front of him. I’m going to train even harder than for my last title defense. I think this will be a very good fight. My world title and our undefeated records will be on the line. I’m very motivated and focused on defending and retaining my title for the third time against a good opponent. I want to show the world why I’m the champion in the super middleweight division.”

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:18
by gilgamesh
The 'ol "Find an unbeaten guy that's not ranked in the Top 30" trick for an easy title defense.

It's alright though. At least we still got the good Tournament matches going on, and at least Ramirez's last fight with Jesse Hart was a lot of fun.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Ahmed is ranked 98 by Boxrec

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/579345

He won the WBO Africa title this year.. That's how he got ranked by the WBO.. #6 with WBO

This kind of makes DeGale's defence seem okay.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:23
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 15:20 Ahmed is ranked 98 by Boxrec

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/579345

He won the WBO Africa title this year.. That's how he got ranked by the WBO.. #6 with WBO

This kind of makes DeGale's defence seem okay.
Both defenses are mediocre as it gets pretty much.

Damn shame we're getting these crapfests instead of Degale vs Zurdo.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:25
by Ruthless-RKO
It's been nearly 4 years.. Will Zurdo finally get a knockout win once again?

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 15:28
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 15:25 It's been nearly 4 years.. Will Zurdo finally get a knockout win once again?

Didn't even realize it'd been that long since he got a stoppage. That must be the point of this opponent choice.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 16:18
by Tanzio
At least he stays busy and you don’t have to worry about him stinking out the joint.

DeGale v Ramirez makes sense after Ahmed and Truax (if they both do the expected).

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 17:22
by jamamb
Tanzio wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 16:18 At least he stays busy and you don’t have to worry about him stinking out the joint.

DeGale v Ramirez makes sense after Ahmed and Truax (if they both do the expected).

ramirez can actually stink it up a lot. he usually goes the distance and doesnt put his foot on gas unless pressed.try sitting through him vs bursak, gevorg, or edwards. he also was content with just winnibg rounds against abraham with some jabs but never stepping it up. the hart fight was was much better than his usual fights because the opponent got to him a bit and made him fight.

never heard of habib and aint expecting him to be up to much

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 17:55
by Tanzio
jamamb wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 17:22
Tanzio wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 16:18 At least he stays busy and you don’t have to worry about him stinking out the joint.

DeGale v Ramirez makes sense after Ahmed and Truax (if they both do the expected).

ramirez can actually stink it up a lot. he usually goes the distance and doesnt put his foot on gas unless pressed.try sitting through him vs bursak, gevorg, or edwards. he also was content with just winnibg rounds against abraham with some jabs but never stepping it up. the hart fight was was much better than his usual fights because the opponent got to him a bit and made him fight.

never heard of habib and am nit expecting him to be up to much
One man’s stinker is another man’s rose. I like Ramirez. I like his style, his attitude, and his fights.

That said, I found Fury v Wlad to be an interesting fight, I like Porter’s style and I enjoyed pretty much every Ramming Speed fight I have seen.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 18:06
by imaioral
Couldn't it be at least Roamer Alexis Angulo? he is better qualified by the wbo, boxrec and is undefeated too... :-?

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 20:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Tanzio wrote: 14 Nov 2017, 16:18 At least he stays busy and you don’t have to worry about him stinking out the joint.

DeGale v Ramirez makes sense after Ahmed and Truax (if they both do the expected).
Ramirez's next fight will take place in his home town in Mexico. And will close out the year.. possibly in Australia.. that's Arum's plan.

Looks like Arum doesn't want him to add to the WBO.. just roll with it..

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 14 Nov 2017, 21:50
by boxing_rocks
Arum is dreaming about feeding Zurdo to ageing Golovkin when he moves up, so he needs to keep the belt to get that fight. Matching him against other SMW champions will put that at big risk.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 15 Nov 2017, 03:17
by Andrew
3rd best super middleweight in Ghana

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 03 Jan 2018, 09:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Ahmed Vows To Chin Check Gilberto Ramirez,

"I have an important message for Gilberto Ramirez," Ahmed told reporters. "I am coming to America to take your title. I am going for the knockout.”

“All of Ghana and all of my fans are going to be so proud, so happy. This is the opportunity I always wanted. I am taking Ramirez's title with me to my homeland”.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 04 Jan 2018, 10:05
by TheGingerBomber
Don't rate Ramirez at all, Callum Smith would beat him.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 06 Jan 2018, 14:04
by world ranked
All these clowns make fun of pbc fighters. This dude aint a good defense yet.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 07 Jan 2018, 05:54
by Andrew
TheGingerBomber wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 10:05 Don't rate Ramirez at all, Callum Smith would beat him.
Strongly disagree with that.

Ramirez has a very high work rate which Joe Gallagher fighters struggle with. The typical Joe Gallagher game plan of do nothing for 6 rounds is completely redundant against Ramirez.

Can't see the fight ever happening as Smith will lose his 0 next year.

I'm just not sure what Top Rank can do for Ramirez,this fight is crap.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 10 Jan 2018, 04:27
by Mexi-Box
TheGingerBomber wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 10:05 Don't rate Ramirez at all, Callum Smith would beat him.
What!? Are you kidding me!? The guy defeated Vlasov as a prospect, schooled Abraham, and beat a very game Hart. I can understand if Ramirez is some untested prospect, but saying you don't rate a current champion that has beaten some good fighters is a clueless comment.

Callum Smith loses to Ramirez.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 10 Jan 2018, 04:32
by Mexi-Box
Naandrew wrote: 07 Jan 2018, 05:54
TheGingerBomber wrote: 04 Jan 2018, 10:05 Don't rate Ramirez at all, Callum Smith would beat him.
Strongly disagree with that.

Ramirez has a very high work rate which Joe Gallagher fighters struggle with. The typical Joe Gallagher game plan of do nothing for 6 rounds is completely redundant against Ramirez.

Can't see the fight ever happening as Smith will lose his 0 next year.

I'm just not sure what Top Rank can do for Ramirez,this fight is crap.
Agreed. Not sure who beats Ramirez with the current landscape. He'd outwork Groves unless Groves lands a big one.

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 10 Jan 2018, 06:37
by Enlightened-One
I can’t believe that ESPN has sanctioned the bouts listed on the fight card that Top Rank will be promoting on the 3rd February, 2018, as headline by Gilberto Ramirez, because it’s really damn poor.

According to others, Gilberto Ramirez is supposed to be an exceptional fighter and I’ll have to take their word for it.

Based on what little I’ve seen of him though, apart from being a southpaw, which is an awkward type of opponent for anyone to face, he is stylistically orthodox and a tad feather-fisted.

By the time he faces Habib Ahmed, it would have been more than 3½ years since he’s scored a legitimate KO using his power (rather than stopping his opponent due to their own sheer exhaustion).

I really don’t think that Gilberto Ramirez carries any real power at world-level and he hasn’t passed the proverbial “eyeball test” with me, but I guess time will tell…

Maybe I’ll eventually be proven wrong about him, because at this point in time he seems a little too ordinary to me and the lack of quality in his resume, coupled with the nature of his underwhelming performances inside the ring, doesn’t seem to warrant the amount of hype and praise that has been lavished upon him.

For instance, both ‘The Ring’ (their owner’s ties to HBO) and ESPN (their own TV network) rate Gilberto Ramirez as the top dog at 168lbs, but they have both had either a direct or indirect recent/current relationship with Top Rank, so perhaps their ratings have been skewed accordingly.

That said, I’m willing to bow down to anyone else that possesses superior knowledge about the pugilistic talents of Gilberto Ramirez, because I have only seen him fight a few times, so maybe I'm not really qualified to comment on this matter. :TU:

Re: Gilberto Ramirez vs. Habib Ahmed - February 3, 2017

Posted: 10 Jan 2018, 08:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Jan 2018, 06:37 I can’t believe that ESPN has sanctioned the bouts listed on the fight card that Top Rank will be promoting on the 3rd February, 2018, as headline by Gilberto Ramirez, because it’s really damn poor.

According to others, Gilberto Ramirez is supposed to be an exceptional fighter and I’ll have to take their word for it.

Based on what little I’ve seen of him though, apart from being a southpaw, which is an awkward type of opponent for anyone to face, he is stylistically orthodox and a tad feather-fisted.

By the time he faces Habib Ahmed, it would have been more than 3½ years since he’s scored a legitimate KO using his power (rather than stopping his opponent due to their own sheer exhaustion).

I really don’t think that Gilberto Ramirez carries any real power at world-level and he hasn’t passed the proverbial “eyeball test” with me, but I guess time will tell…

Maybe I’ll eventually be proven wrong about him, because at this point in time he seems a little too ordinary to me and the lack of quality in his resume, coupled with the nature of his underwhelming performances inside the ring, doesn’t seem to warrant the amount of hype and praise that has been lavished upon him.

For instance, both ‘The Ring’ (their owner’s ties to HBO) and ESPN (their own TV network) rate Gilberto Ramirez as the top dog at 168lbs, but they have both had either a direct or indirect recent/current relationship with Top Rank, so perhaps their ratings have been skewed accordingly.

That said, I’m willing to bow down to anyone else that possesses superior knowledge about the pugilistic talents of Gilberto Ramirez, because I have only seen him fight a few times, so maybe I'm not really qualified to comment on this matter. :TU:
You're not wrong here mate. He's a really big SMW. He's supposed to be stopping his opponents, or at least dropping them? He won a hard fought battle with Jesse Hart. TBH, Hart did really well and proved a very good contender in my eyes.

What was his excuse vs. Bursak?

Zurdo is still ery young, may end up as high as CW by time he retires. He's supposed to be arguably the most powerful SMW.. Yet, hasn't even stopped anyone since what 2014? I re-did all his Wikipedia page with sources and everything. So I've kinda read through and revised his career since the start. After beating Abraham, yeh, one easy defence is fine, but he should be making more noise now.