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I'm a sad boxing anorak.

I was looking at the fight this Monday between Sergey Kuzmin & Amir Mansour, in Russia, and noticed that Kuzmin had beaten Darnell "Ding-a-Ling" Wilson, who was a fun fighter to watch a few years ago.

Then I saw that Wilsons last fight was a loss to Adrian Granat, a hard punching Swedish heavyweight. So I'm looking at Granats record & I see the name Saul Farah and I'm thinking "How do I know that name?".

Then I remember that Farah, a Bolivian boxer with a 65(57)-23(17)-3, twice fought Billy Wright who is an American fighter in his 50's who fought as recently as last year. Wright, who once lost to Michael Moorer back in 1992, only fought once between 1999 & 2011 when he embarked on a world tour fighting in obscure locations such as Chile, Trinidad, Bolivia and New Zealand.

Which brings me to the point of this thread (if there is one ). On Valentines Day in 2014 Wright, who was born in Arizona & lives in Vegas, fought Chauncey Welliver, from Spokane, Washington, for the WBC Asian Boxing Council Heavyweight & the WBC Latino Heavyweight Titles.

Which I fought was a bit weird.

I think I have a problem

Are you meaning odd match ups or odd titles? The Boxing Asylum lads love a 'bullshít title' as they put it Thers plenty of them in circulation nowadays man!

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:01 Are you meaning odd match ups or odd titles? The Boxing Asylum lads love a 'bullshít title' as they put it Thers plenty of them in circulation nowadays man!

Whatever you want it to mean, mate.

In this case it's odd that two Yanks are fighting in New Zealand for a Latin & Asian title

Some of the titles are becoming absurd, didn't Wach recently win the IBF East/West Europe title?

I see that Fred Kassi, the Cameroon born American resident fought for the Republic of Poland heavyweight title last Saturday. Granted it was in Poland against a Pole but I wondered how he qualified...?

milpool wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:32 I see that Fred Kassi, the Cameroon born American resident fought for the Republic of Poland heavyweight title last Saturday. Granted it was in Poland against a Pole but I wondered how he qualified...?

Was just gonna post that What part of Poland is Kassi from

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:37

milpool wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:32 I see that Fred Kassi, the Cameroon born American resident fought for the Republic of Poland heavyweight title last Saturday. Granted it was in Poland against a Pole but I wondered how he qualified...?

Was just gonna post that What part of Poland is Kassi from

Maybe they thought he was Izuagbe Ugonoh

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:41

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:37

milpool wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 10:32 I see that Fred Kassi, the Cameroon born American resident fought for the Republic of Poland heavyweight title last Saturday. Granted it was in Poland against a Pole but I wondered how he qualified...?

Was just gonna post that What part of Poland is Kassi from

Maybe they thought he was Izuagbe Ugonoh

Possibility

Just noticed that Ashley Theophane is fighting some Georgian dude for the German International Lightmiddleweight title next week

Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

littlepug wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:34 Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

littlepug wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:34 Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

Can't remember that happening but may of done for all I know

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

littlepug wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:34 Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

littlepug wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:34 Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

That's correct,Hearns won the WBO supermiddle title 3 days before Leonard beat Lalonde.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:35

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

That's correct,Hearns won the WBO supermiddle title 3 days before Leonard beat Lalonde.

Funny. I remember many at the time saying it wasn't a real title.

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:35

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

That's correct,Hearns won the WBO supermiddle title 3 days before Leonard beat Lalonde.

That was his fifth, he was already ahead.

Was the WBO title made up so Tommy could win 5 titles before Leonard ?

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:44 Was the WBO title made up so Tommy could win 5 titles before Leonard ?

No but he managed to fight for a vacant world title straight after a knockout loss.

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:46

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:44 Was the WBO title made up so Tommy could win 5 titles before Leonard ?

No but he managed to fight for a vacant world title straight after a knockout loss.

Who held the WBO title before Hearns then ?

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:50

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:46

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:44 Was the WBO title made up so Tommy could win 5 titles before Leonard ?

No but he managed to fight for a vacant world title straight after a knockout loss.

Who held the WBO title before Hearns then ?

Dunno but from your question I thought you meant was the WBO itself made up for Hearns benefit

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:54

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:50

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:46

No but he managed to fight for a vacant world title straight after a knockout loss.

Who held the WBO title before Hearns then ?

Dunno but from your question I thought you meant was the WBO itself made up for Hearns benefit

Hearns was the first holder of the supermiddle title,that's what made me think the weight division was new just in time for Tommy to beat Leonard to 5 titles

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:56

Taansend wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:54

bigjack wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:50

Who held the WBO title before Hearns then ?

Dunno but from your question I thought you meant was the WBO itself made up for Hearns benefit

Hearns was the first holder of the supermiddle title,that's what made me think the weight division was new just in time for Tommy to beat Leonard to 5 titles

Just had a look and Hearns was the first ever WBO belt holder at ANY weight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

littlepug wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:34 Leonard v Lalonde was odd in that it was for 2 belts at 2 different weights which I believe is the only time its happened

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

You sure? I thought he defended both against Berto? Maybe Pacquiao as well?

Edit... He defended welter and lightmiddle titles against Maidana in the rematch.

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 14:58

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:38

I think Mayweather defended his welter and lightmiddle titles at the same time did he not?

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

You sure? I thought he defended both against Berto? Maybe Pacquiao as well?

Yeah, I'm sure.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 15:00

Stuarty30 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 14:58

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 11:48

No, the wbc let him hold both belts for awhile but he never defended two at the same time. Leonard couldn't stand it that hearns had more titles in weight classes.

You sure? I thought he defended both against Berto? Maybe Pacquiao as well?

Yeah, I'm sure.

Was the Maidana rematch I think. I'll check online just now but I'm sure he defended both titles at welter and light middle