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Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 04:54
by handsofstone
Cotto defends his WBO Super Welterweight title against Ali on b/nation this Saturday, Cotto's farewell fight by all accounts and TBH he strikes me as the type of fighter who'll keep his word, he looked excellent against Kamegai last time out, in all fairness Kamegai has never been even near his level but Cotto was switched on and showed great skills and stamina
Ive seen a lot of Ali coming through, he fought on ESPN a few times and remember him getting a good stoppage win over Abregu, haven't seen much of him lately though and was surprised he was stopped by Jessie Vargas, he's picked up a few wins since then and this is his 2nd title shot
Cant see him having enough to beat Cotto though. think Cotto will be too big, strong, experienced and having better tools all round for Ali to cope with, Ali might start off sharp but I see Cotto wearing him down and stopping him 2nd half of the fight,, I never seen Ali's loss to Vargas but if Vargas can KO him then I cant see him lasting with Cotto, especially if Cotto lands the type of shots he hit Kamegai with
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 05:01
by keirw
Cotto has had an excellent career, I'm glad he is able to bow out on his own terms
Just hope Ali doesn't land the punch of his life and ruin everyone's evening.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 09:33
by Ricky_
handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 04:54
Cotto defends his WBO Super Welterweight title against Ali on b/nation this Saturday, Cotto's farewell fight by all accounts and TBH he strikes me as the type of fighter who'll keep his word, he looked excellent against Kamegai last time out, in all fairness Kamegai has never been even near his level but Cotto was switched on and showed great skills and stamina
Ive seen a lot of Ali coming through, he fought on ESPN a few times and remember him getting a good stoppage win over Abregu, haven't seen much of him lately though and was surprised he was stopped by Jessie Vargas, he's picked up a few wins since then and this is his 2nd title shot
Cant see him having enough to beat Cotto though. think Cotto will be too big, strong, experienced and having better tools all round for Ali to cope with, Ali might start off sharp but I see Cotto wearing him down and stopping him 2nd half of the fight,, I never seen Ali's loss to Vargas but if Vargas can KO him then I cant see him lasting with Cotto, especially if Cotto lands the type of shots he hit Kamegai with
I remeber that fight vs Abregu. I thought Ali was an exciting fight and one to watch
Hadn't heard of him since though and missed his loss to Vargas. But Vargas never won a second vs Pacquaio.
I don't think Ali will have much of a chance. If he found his level to be below Vargas, then he's out his depth Miguel.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 10:19
by Oiky
Fairplay to Miguel, some career he's had, what a fighter
He will go out with a win vs Ali
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 10:22
by Taansend
I hope he loses so we can see the mega fight Ali v Horn
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 11:46
by stujones
In some ways a bit of a let down of an ending, but as people say glad to see him end on his own terms and not much worse than Mayweather vs Berto.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 14:10
by Andrew
This fight is absolute crap
Used to like Cotto but his career in recent years has been a joke.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 14:17
by Loynesy
Fair play to Cotto. Seems an absolute gent, have met him a handful of times at sponsor events and he is very engaging.
Led to believe he's been savvy with his money - had a trusted accountant most of the way though.
Not really sure how any boxing fan can dislike Cotto.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 14:44
by tobyh5
Cotto was a hell of a fighter but there has been a huge bitch element to his career, certainly the tail end. Won vacant titles, tilted the tables heavily in his favour, made unreasonable demands on his opponents.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 14:47
by Andrew
tobyh5 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 14:44
Cotto was a hell of a fighter but there has been a huge bitch element to his career, certainly the tail end. Won vacant titles, tilted the tables heavily in his favour, made unreasonable demands on his opponents.
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 19:25
by Stuarty
tobyh5 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 14:44
Cotto was a hell of a fighter but there has been a huge bitch element to his career, certainly the tail end. Won vacant titles, tilted the tables heavily in his favour, made unreasonable demands on his opponents.
Came on to say something similar but you've put it better than I could've! Smashing fighter and great to watch but overrated! Would've loved him and Hatton at 140! Ricky always fancied the job against Cotto!
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 19:28
by Stuarty
Loynesy wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 14:17
Fair play to Cotto. Seems an absolute gent, have met him a handful of times at sponsor events and he is very engaging.
Led to believe he's been savvy with his money - had a trusted accountant most of the way though.
Not really sure how any boxing fan can dislike Cotto.
Heard he's a cock behind the scenes? I know you've been to a lot of shows overseas so maybe you have better knowledge than most? Personally I like him as a fighter but there was a few fights I'd have liked to have seen him take on....
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 19:48
by Loynesy
Like many elite fighters, he's tipped the scales in his favour when he was the front end of the card.
Due to work/family commitments, I'm far less involved in the US scene than I was 4 or 5 years ago, but I've only heard of Cotto as one of the good guys.
He has certainly given many of his opponents their best pay days by far,
Re: Miguel Cotto vs Sadam Ali
Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 21:51
by Tanzio
I get the table tilting, etc., but how is Cotto overrated? I don’t think many if any are rating him an ATG. He is just an excellent prize fighter whose potential we will never know, imo, because of the Cheato debacle.
I said at the time that I felt that he should retire. That was prior to the Tijuana sewer rat being busted for plaster wraps prior to the SSM fight.
Cotto proved me dead wrong. He went on to win and lose big fights, including one of the more competitive matches FMJ was ever involved in.
He is a good role model of a pro boxer, and the pride of Puerto Rico.