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WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 09:59
by wesshaw1985
allegedly: I Hope Miguel Cotto Stays, To Fight Liam Smith -
http://www.BS.com/frank-warren ... th--122978
If the fight was made today, who wins?
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 10:05
by PredatorHayds
Cotto for me. Wide on the cards.
Cotto is past his peak but to beat him you need to be World-Class or a good mover. Smith is neither.
Can’t see Cotto deciding to stick around just for Beefy.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 10:13
by Oiky
Cotto beats Smith by wide UD
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 11:03
by skanksta
Cotto has already said he's retired, if he fought on his heart wouldn't be in it, so I've picked the youth of Smith to be served, by close dec.
If Cotto was bang-up for it, it would be very different...

Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 11:09
by gilgamesh
Since Cotto is saying his fight this weekend is his last I won't speculate on any "What if" bouts of his future until he confirms that he does in fact have a future in the sport...which wouldn't surprise me at all.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:11
by Stuarty
I hope Cotto loses a close decision then storms out the ring again like the petulant diva that he is.....
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:14
by gilgamesh
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:11
I hope Cotto loses a close decision then storms out the ring again like the petulant diva that he is.....
This weekend against Sadam Ali or in a fantasy matchup against Smith?
You're one of the only people I've seen hating on Cotto this week.
I don't recall Cotto storming out of the ring like a petulant diva at any point in his career.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:18
by Stuarty
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:14
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:11
I hope Cotto loses a close decision then storms out the ring again like the petulant diva that he is.....
This weekend against Sadam Ali or in a fantasy matchup against Smith?
You're one of the only people I've seen hating on Cotto this week.
I don't recall Cotto storming out of the ring like a petulant diva at any point in his career.
He's got previous for sorting out the ring. Done it against Trout. Nah I hope Ali beats him.
Used to like him as a fighter but went off him in recent years.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:20
by gilgamesh
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:18
He's got previous for sorting out the ring. Done it against Trout. Nah I hope Ali beats him.
Used to like him as a fighter but went off him in recent years.
He left the ring after the decision was announced that he'd lost to Trout. He didn't "storm out". He was even asked while on the way back to the dressing room area "Do you intend to fight again Miguel?" to which he calmly answered "Probably" and then just kept walking.
Was he supposed to lift up Trout and parade him around the ring or something?
Show me a fighter that walks around the ring all smiles, and posing for cameras with the guy that just beat him after a loss, and I'll show you a jackass who's desperately trying to keep the attention on him in spite of the fact that at this moment it's not about him.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:24
by Counter-puncher
I would pay to watch Cotto beat Smith to fvck.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:26
by Stuarty
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:20
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:18
He's got previous for sorting out the ring. Done it against Trout. Nah I hope Ali beats him.
Used to like him as a fighter but went off him in recent years.
He left the ring after the decision was announced that he'd lost to Trout. He didn't "storm out". He was even asked while on the way back to the dressing room area "Do you intend to fight again Miguel?" to which he calmly answered "Probably" and then just kept walking.
Was he supposed to lift up Trout and parade him around the ring or something?
He walked out in a huff mate. Who said he had to parade him around? I don't care for him anymore, you do! It's not a big deal.
He's an ignorant twat away from the ring (so I've heard). He was middleweight champ and bitched out of fighting GGG but was ok to take on Martinez corpse!
Ali for a 'farewell' fight is hardly awe inspiring either!
I only look forward to his fights so I can perv on his wife's udders

Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:26
by Ricky_
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:20
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:18
He's got previous for sorting out the ring. Done it against Trout. Nah I hope Ali beats him.
Used to like him as a fighter but went off him in recent years.
He left the ring after the decision was announced that he'd lost to Trout. He didn't "storm out". He was even asked while on the way back to the dressing room area "Do you intend to fight again Miguel?" to which he calmly answered "Probably" and then just kept walking.
Was he supposed to lift up Trout and parade him around the ring or something?
Show me a fighter that walks around the ring all smiles, and posing for cameras with the guy that just beat him after a loss, and I'll show you a jackass who's desperately trying to keep the attention on him in spite of the fact that at this moment it's not about him.
I'm a fan of Cotto but he took the huff at the Trout decision. Fans pay a lot of money to go to fights or to watch on TV, he could have at least gave a 30 second interview. It was the right decision too, he clearly lost.
But tbf to Cotto, he's always been fair in picking his opponents, he fights live opponents who are not well known - almost the opposite matchmaking strategy of Fraud Mayweather.
PS cotto stops smith easy.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:27
by Stuarty
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:24
I would pay to watch Cotto beat Smith to fvck.
Yeah I'd want Cotto to beat Smith. I don't particularly like Cotto but the Smiths are a special breed of wanker!
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:27
by Ricky_
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:20
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:18
He's got previous for sorting out the ring. Done it against Trout. Nah I hope Ali beats him.
Used to like him as a fighter but went off him in recent years.
He left the ring after the decision was announced that he'd lost to Trout. He didn't "storm out". He was even asked while on the way back to the dressing room area "Do you intend to fight again Miguel?" to which he calmly answered "Probably" and then just kept walking.
Was he supposed to lift up Trout and parade him around the ring or something?
He walked out in a huff mate. Who said he had to parade him around? I don't care for him anymore, you do! It's not a big deal.
He's an ignorant twat away from the ring (so I've heard). He was middleweight champ and bitched out of fighting GGG but was ok to take on Martinez corpse!
Ali for a 'farewell' fight is hardly awe inspiring either!
I only look forward to his fights so I can perv on his wife's udders
Saddam Ali is an exciting fighter, its going to be all action (although i think its got to be around 90/10 in favour of MC).
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:29
by gilgamesh
I like Cotto because he's never been in a bad fight in a long almost 20 year career. I don't really care that his final opponent isn't awe inspiring. Fighters at the end of the line don't need to have legacy defining fights anymore. They've already had them.
I was annoyed at him for not fighting GGG, but I can forgive that. Seemed to be going around the Middleweight division for about 3 years there...the ducking GGG thing that is.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:30
by gilgamesh
Ricky_ wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:26
I'm a fan of Cotto but he took the huff at the Trout decision. Fans pay a lot of money to go to fights or to watch on TV, he could have at least gave a 30 second interview. It was the right decision too, he clearly lost.
But tbf to Cotto, he's always been fair in picking his opponents, he fights live opponents who are not well known - almost the opposite matchmaking strategy of Fraud Mayweather.
PS cotto stops smith easy.
Why does a losing fighter who just spent most of an hour in a ring fighting a guy owe you or anybody else a post fight interview?
I personally don't care to hear from the losing fighter in most cases. We'll hear from him again next time he fights. That's good enough for me.
Exceptions where I don't mind hearing from the losing fighter is if either A) They're announcing their retirement from the sport or B) They think they got robbed, and people agree with them.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:34
by Stuarty
Ricky_ wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:27
Stuarty30 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:20
He left the ring after the decision was announced that he'd lost to Trout. He didn't "storm out". He was even asked while on the way back to the dressing room area "Do you intend to fight again Miguel?" to which he calmly answered "Probably" and then just kept walking.
Was he supposed to lift up Trout and parade him around the ring or something?
He walked out in a huff mate. Who said he had to parade him around? I don't care for him anymore, you do! It's not a big deal.
He's an ignorant twat away from the ring (so I've heard). He was middleweight champ and bitched out of fighting GGG but was ok to take on Martinez corpse!
Ali for a 'farewell' fight is hardly awe inspiring either!
I only look forward to his fights so I can perv on his wife's udders
Saddam Ali is an exciting fighter, its going to be all action (although i think its got to be around 90/10 in favour of MC).
I fancy Cotto to stop Ali in 8. Don't blame Ali fir taking the fight, it's a great opportunity but Cotto is levels above Ali.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:39
by Andrew
Waste of a thread Cotto is retiring.
If he doesn't then talk about this fight
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:41
by wesshaw1985
Naandrew wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:39
Waste of a thread Cotto is retiring.
If he doesn't then talk about this fight

Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 12:58
by Ricky_
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:30
Ricky_ wrote: ↑01 Dec 2017, 12:26
I'm a fan of Cotto but he took the huff at the Trout decision. Fans pay a lot of money to go to fights or to watch on TV, he could have at least gave a 30 second interview. It was the right decision too, he clearly lost.
But tbf to Cotto, he's always been fair in picking his opponents, he fights live opponents who are not well known - almost the opposite matchmaking strategy of Fraud Mayweather.
PS cotto stops smith easy.
Why does a losing fighter who just spent most of an hour in a ring fighting a guy owe you or anybody else a post fight interview?
I personally don't care to hear from the losing fighter in most cases. We'll hear from him again next time he fights. That's good enough for me.
Exceptions where I don't mind hearing from the losing fighter is if either A) They're announcing their retirement from the sport or B) They think they got robbed, and people agree with them.
Did he even congratulate the largely unheard of Trout on biggest win of his career?
I still like Cotto but in that instance he was a sore loser.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 13:00
by gilgamesh
Is that a rule that you have to do that?
He's getting pats on the back from all the people around him, and cheers from the crowd. Does he really need the guy he just beat to congratulate him too?
Don't really get why you guys would give Cotto sh*t about this.
I haven't been in that position, but I doubt I'd be the most happy go lucky guy wanting to shake hands and kiss babies after losing a fight either. Just sayin'.
Re: WHO WINS? Miguel Cotto vs. Liam Smith
Posted: 01 Dec 2017, 13:15
by bigjack
Cotto has forgotten more than Smith will ever know but he is faded now,would love Cotto to break Smiths ribs though.