KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 00:57
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KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
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Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 00:58
wilder crushes him and the haters who said otherwise for years make excuses. prob already have.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 01:01
I won't believe it's going to take place until they're on their way to the ring.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 01:05
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 02:06
I think Wilder vs Ortiz happens but unfortunatey due to the Joshua fight probably not coming off in 2018.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 03:00
Wilder demands so much money from AJ, that AJ genuinly makes more money by fighting a bum instead of a beltholder.marvelous marv wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 02:06 I think Wilder vs Ortiz happens but unfortunatey due to the Joshua fight probably not coming off in 2018.
I very much doubt this fight will happen, I also see Ortiz is downgrading hard, but even at this level I expect Wilder only to say such things if he knows this fight won't happen
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 04:59
I must be getting gullible in my old age because I found myself believing Wilder meant what he said to Ortiz and I thought he came across really well.
I course some may question Wilder's ambition, his professed intention to fight the best and unify the division, but I guess nobody ever said the guy can't talk the talk.
I really would like to believe in Deontay Wilder. If the fight ever goes ahead I'll be well on the way, but for now I'm with Gil.
I course some may question Wilder's ambition, his professed intention to fight the best and unify the division, but I guess nobody ever said the guy can't talk the talk.
I really would like to believe in Deontay Wilder. If the fight ever goes ahead I'll be well on the way, but for now I'm with Gil.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 05:24
Deontay Wilder will score a shockingly quick KO victory over the heavily-hyped Luis Ortiz.
I can't help thinking that Team Wilder possess inside knowledge of the Cuban's decline, because they really seem to fancy the job.
I also believe that Ortiz has endured a prolonged period of poor form, with many believing that it's due to his advanced years (as he appears to look much older than his official age).
I'm probably going to be proven wrong about this prediction, but I really can't help the way my gut instinct currently feels.
I can't help thinking that Team Wilder possess inside knowledge of the Cuban's decline, because they really seem to fancy the job.
I also believe that Ortiz has endured a prolonged period of poor form, with many believing that it's due to his advanced years (as he appears to look much older than his official age).
I'm probably going to be proven wrong about this prediction, but I really can't help the way my gut instinct currently feels.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 05:49
no youve nailed what the result will beEnlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 05:24 Deontay Wilder will score a shockingly quick KO victory over the heavily-hyped Luis Ortiz.
I can't help thinking that Team Wilder possess inside knowledge of the Cuban's decline, because they really seem to fancy the job.
I also believe that Ortiz has endured a prolonged period of poor form, with many believing that it's due to his advanced years (as he appears to look much older than his official age).
I'm probably going to be proven wrong about this prediction, but I really can't help the way my gut instinct currently feels.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 06:22
If Wilder is able to keep the distance and to time right hand, he'll knock Ortiz out, I believe.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 09:25
The amount of hate Wilder gets on here because his opponents fail drug tests is astonishing, and pathetic. Not only that, but it shows a true lack of intelligence and common sense among so many posters.
If I were Wilder, I would put in the contract an extra $5 million penalty if an opponent fails a drug test. (For Ortiz or Povetkin at least)
You have to give him credit for taking this fight, but many won't.
If I were Wilder, I would put in the contract an extra $5 million penalty if an opponent fails a drug test. (For Ortiz or Povetkin at least)
You have to give him credit for taking this fight, but many won't.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 10:02
Intelligent opponents would only accept that if his personal lab is in no way involved. People want to see fair and honest testing, so take a Dutch lab, or Belgium, or Swedish, or Chinese lab for example. NOT NEVADA, LAS VEGAS, or any other American lab.Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 09:25 The amount of hate Wilder gets on here because his opponents fail drug tests is astonishing, and pathetic. Not only that, but it shows a true lack of intelligence and common sense among so many posters.
If I were Wilder, I would put in the contract an extra $5 million penalty if an opponent fails a drug test. (For Ortiz or Povetkin at least)
You have to give him credit for taking this fight, but many won't.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 10:04
Thanks for helping make my point.asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 10:02Intelligent opponents would only accept that if his personal lab is in no way involved. People want to see fair and honest testing, so take a Dutch lab, or Belgium, or Swedish, or Chinese lab for example. NOT NEVADA, LAS VEGAS, or any other American lab.Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 09:25 The amount of hate Wilder gets on here because his opponents fail drug tests is astonishing, and pathetic. Not only that, but it shows a true lack of intelligence and common sense among so many posters.
If I were Wilder, I would put in the contract an extra $5 million penalty if an opponent fails a drug test. (For Ortiz or Povetkin at least)
You have to give him credit for taking this fight, but many won't.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 10:08
Has Wilder ever been tested by an independant lab? Not as far as I know in every case... Stiverne hasn't ever been caught either, except for taking illegal substanced life in the act of taking it by a dopingtester who was only there to take the samples.Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 10:04Thanks for helping make my point.asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 10:02Intelligent opponents would only accept that if his personal lab is in no way involved. People want to see fair and honest testing, so take a Dutch lab, or Belgium, or Swedish, or Chinese lab for example. NOT NEVADA, LAS VEGAS, or any other American lab.Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 09:25 The amount of hate Wilder gets on here because his opponents fail drug tests is astonishing, and pathetic. Not only that, but it shows a true lack of intelligence and common sense among so many posters.
If I were Wilder, I would put in the contract an extra $5 million penalty if an opponent fails a drug test. (For Ortiz or Povetkin at least)
You have to give him credit for taking this fight, but many won't.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 13:08
How many fighters can you name that pays to get himself tested by independent labs?asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 10:08Has Wilder ever been tested by an independant lab? Not as far as I know in every case... Stiverne hasn't ever been caught either, except for taking illegal substanced life in the act of taking it by a dopingtester who was only there to take the samples.
FFS! Stop asking silly questions!
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 13:21
I saw the end of the silly "fight" Ortiz had yesterday and the way they put Wilder at ringside and then Wilder's maniacal ranting about "blessing Ortiz". Why am I even watching this stupid stuff? It is becoming just like a WWE wrestling show, steroids and all, except hasn't wrestling - unlike boxing - cleaned up its act in recent years? And wrestling at least always billed itself as "sports entertainment" and not a real honest - yeah right - sport like boxing.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 13:25
asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 10:08Has Wilder ever been tested by an independant lab? Not as far as I know in every case... Stiverne hasn't ever been caught either, except for taking illegal substanced life in the act of taking it by a dopingtester who was only there to take the samples.
Wilder's appearance and demeanor makes me quite certain that he has more than a passing acquaintance with drugs.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 13:47
Well, Ortiz and Povetkin for exampleEnlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 13:08How many fighters can you name that pays to get himself tested by independent labs?
FFS! Stop asking silly questions!
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 15:16
Ortiz and Povetkin are drug cheats. Period. End of.asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 13:47Well, Ortiz and Povetkin for exampleEnlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 13:08How many fighters can you name that pays to get himself tested by independent labs?
FFS! Stop asking silly questions!
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 15:40
Yeah why is this boy surprised that Ortiz has failed test? It was already 3rd time !!!!!!!!!!gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 15:16Ortiz and Povetkin are drug cheats. Period. End of.asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 13:47Well, Ortiz and Povetkin for exampleEnlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 13:08
How many fighters can you name that pays to get himself tested by independent labs?
FFS! Stop asking silly questions!
Also almost everyone started suspect Povetkin after Klitschko whooped his hopeless ass .....
Povetkin looked like a crap in his recent fight against injured Rudenko... Maybe because he was not on on PEDS anymore ;))))
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 15:47
Not true at all and Povetkin was already going downhill after the Perez fight, look at him against Duhaupas, he was absolute shit back then already, nevertheless he was probably still loads better as Wilder for example. And about Rudenko, he kept Rudenko alive beïng scared to injure him even further.IronFrost wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 15:40Yeah why is this boy surprised that Ortiz has failed test? It was already 3rd time !!!!!!!!!!
Also almost everyone started suspect Povetkin after Klitschko whooped his hopeless ass .....
Povetkin looked like a crap in his recent fight against injured Rudenko... Maybe because he was not on on PEDS anymore ;))))
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 16:50
I heard this fight announced before, but it didn't actually happen. Should I assume that this is just a way to sell tickets before they switch the opponent to Arreola at the last minute?
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 09 Dec 2017, 17:39
asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 15:47Not true at all and Povetkin was already going downhill after the Perez fight, look at him against Duhaupas, he was absolute poo back then already, nevertheless he was probably still loads better as Wilder for example. And about Rudenko, he kept Rudenko alive beïng scared to injure him even further.IronFrost wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 15:40Yeah why is this boy surprised that Ortiz has failed test? It was already 3rd time !!!!!!!!!!
Also almost everyone started suspect Povetkin after Klitschko whooped his hopeless ass .....
Povetkin looked like a crap in his recent fight against injured Rudenko... Maybe because he was not on on PEDS anymore ;))))
Povetkin was never so good as people hyped him. He is too small , short reach and no defence.
Usyk would do a work on Povektin and EASILY.
That's how limited Povetkin is.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 18:28
I give him more credit than fence-straddlers like yourself. At least he has balls enough to take a stand. Carry on though, sit back and be the smart guy by criticizing those that actually have an opinion.punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 01:05You shouldn't let the few extreme posters push you into the opposite end. You're starting to come across a little badhusker-ish on Wilder and that's not a good thing.
Re: KING KONG ORTIZ VS WILDER
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 19:02
I've stated my opinion many times and there is absolutely nothing fence straddling about it. Let me refresh you:Badhusker wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 18:28I give him more credit than fence-straddlers like yourself. At least he has balls enough to take a stand. Carry on though, sit back and be the smart guy by criticizing those that actually have an opinion.punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Dec 2017, 01:05You shouldn't let the few extreme posters push you into the opposite end. You're starting to come across a little badhusker-ish on Wilder and that's not a good thing.
I *think* Wilder is right at the top of the division.
I *know* Wilder has a dreadful resume.
I *know* that Wilder has the power to knock out any HW on the planet.
I *know* that you have defended each and every one of his pathetic title defenses.
I *think* you have a crush on him, and you are a completely different poster when he is involved.