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Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 00:56
by Jip
I have never seen such a high level fight.
I wont be harsh on rigo, after all he climbed up 2 divisions. Both footwork, agility, speed are superb. The technique, this is boxing at his highest form: quick footwork, balance, upperbody mobility, lateral movemant, rotation, switching positions, the handspeed, the coordination. I mean, sure was the end dissapointing and rigo shouldve done more.
But he is still a great boxer, he catched loma few good times, but did the same mistake a lot of cuban elite boxer do and thats low punch output.
As for loma, i see ALL boxing fights. GGG, crawford, canelo, nobody is as complet as loma is. He is the best boxer in the world and you will have a hard time finding atg's as complet of a boxer as is loma. Not only the smoothnes if his footwork, but the footspeed and hiw fast he changes position, his handspeed, eye coordination, this guy aint normal. Prime loma might be the best boxer ever except prime jones. I follow boxing since the late 80's. I have seen live tv prime jones, prime whitacker, prime mosley, prime mayweather, prime pacquiao. I know athletic highspeed hightechnique boxer. Loma at the top in that group. And yes i also know the old all time greats!
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 04:31
by Kalan
Jip wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 00:56
I have never seen such a high level fight.
I wont be harsh on rigo, after all he climbed up 2 divisions. Both footwork, agility, speed are superb. The technique, this is boxing at his highest form: quick footwork, balance, upperbody mobility, lateral movemant, rotation, switching positions, the handspeed, the coordination. I mean, sure was the end dissapointing and rigo shouldve done more.
But he is still a great boxer, he catched loma few good times, but did the same mistake a lot of cuban elite boxer do and thats low punch output.
As for loma, i see ALL boxing fights. GGG, crawford, canelo, nobody is as complet as loma is. He is the best boxer in the world and you will have a hard time finding atg's as complet of a boxer as is loma. Not only the smoothnes if his footwork, but the footspeed and hiw fast he changes position, his handspeed, eye coordination, this guy aint normal. Prime loma might be the best boxer ever except prime jones. I follow boxing since the late 80's. I have seen live tv prime jones, prime whitacker, prime mosley, prime mayweather, prime pacquiao. I know athletic highspeed hightechnique boxer. Loma at the top in that group. And yes i also know the old all time greats!
When Roy Jones was still in his 20's and 36-1, Lou Del Valle decked him with a straight left power shot - the same punch Antonio Tarver eventually knocked Jones out with... I don't see Roy on the same level as Lomachenko because Roy got tagged up a little more -- and didn't dominate and get rid of boxers who were on that level.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 05:26
by tigermoth87
Loma is better than Roid Jones.
Gets hit less, doesn't duck opponents, better jaw and doesn't need to rely on PEDs to win.
He's the best ever already.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 06:59
by JeanClaude Van Damme
Ray Robinson didn't need 174 victories, all he needed to do was beat a Cuban phenom in an uncompetitive weight class.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 07:23
by Enlightened-One
JeanClaude Van Damme wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 06:59
Ray Robinson didn't need 174 victories, all he needed to do was beat a Cuban phenom in an uncompetitive weight class.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 08:19
by Badhusker
I think most of us predicted Loma to dominate. Rigo quitting though? Very sad, pathetic really.
Like I mentioned before, when you only box 3 rounds in the last 3 years, are 37, a naturally smaller guy, taking on someone like a prime Loma, its not like you will all of a sudden come in with the punch output and gas tank needed to compete. It is still in the back of my mind why Rigo quit. I thought he had pride. Maybe he got a nice payday for doing it, who knows.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 08:32
by jamamb
ya u mention all the time the inactivity, age, weight, etc. maybe if you stress those factors you should think rigo quit because he was an old inactive mess and therefore feeled like shit and realized hed only get beaten up?id think you had more sympathy when u constantly focused on his disdvantages (and those are legit points)
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 08:44
by Badhusker
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 08:32
ya u mention all the time the inactivity, age, weight, etc. maybe if you stress those factors you should think rigo quit because he was an old inactive mess and therefore feeled like poo and realized hed only get beaten up?id think you had more sympathy when u constantly focused on his disdvantages (and those are legit points)
None of the factors I mentioned help make sense of him quitting. It helps make sense why he would lose, but not quit on his stool like he did.
For all the times Rigo said everyone in or close to his weight class are chickenshits......well, lets just hope he keeps his mouth shut from now on.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 08:48
by jamamb
maybe feeling like shit for being so old, inactive, small, 6 points down after 6 rounds, and getting punched?tougher when ur that disadvantaged guy, though im not saying he was right. but i can certainly understand it.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 08:56
by Badhusker
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Dec 2017, 08:48
maybe feeling like poo for being so old, inactive, small, 6 points down after 6 rounds, and getting punched?tougher when ur that disadvantaged guy, though im not saying he was right. but i can certainly understand it.
I guess we are on totally different planets then. Maybe pride isn't a common thing so much anymore. He would have gained a tremendous amount of respect if he fought and went out on his shield, and gave us a fight like Hearns vs Hagler. I have no respect at all for someone that quits when they are fully capable to fight and fight hard. He took the cowardly way out, plain and simple.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 10:16
by Thomastearns
I feel for Rigondeaux. He approached this like great champs do, just another fight. Trouble is Lomachenko isn't just another great champion. He is special, and I think nearly everyone will now admit that. If Rigo did injure his left hand then there wasn't much point in continuing without his main weapon. No boxer goes into this game to be humiliated but it's getting to be a habit with Lomachenko's opponents.
The main difference once again seemed to be footwork. Even someone as slick as Rigo seems static and too slow last night. Its hard to show your stuff when your target keeps disappearing and reappearing at a different angle.
Dancing skills didn't hurt Bruce Lee or SRR, how could they hurt any fighter? Lomachenko is the best mover in a boxing ring since Ray Leonard. He has everything apart from devastating power in each hand and really stepped up last night.
Re: Boxing from another galaxy
Posted: 10 Dec 2017, 18:39
by Jip
Handspeed, loma is up there with meldrick
Footwork, best footwork ever
Stamina, arguably best stamina ever, relentless. Up there with pac or chavez
Power, good punch, they all quit, his punches must hurt, although more the stamina relentless attacks makes them quit
Technique, amongs the best pernell, floyd
I mean, loma is so damn complet. No weaknesses. Either he is good or phenomenal, no weak points.