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that would have been some crazy fight.
close, edgy, beyond what i can imagine.

interesting. manny could be wild at lower weights but he had atg physical gifts. super fast hands, ktfo power, and just a tenacious beast. he could still be outboxed though. is loma at the level to do it to him? im not sure. i feelsafer going pac.

50-50 Loma better boxer, Pac fiercer and heavier puncher..

man wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:32 that would have been some crazy fight.
close, edgy, beyond what i can imagine.

Winner gets Naz

Pac

Tough one. Prime pac had 1 punch KO power.
So loma could not be to offensive open cause a ckean shot could end it all. Both relentless both stamina at the top. At the end vasyl technicly to well rounded, woukd outland manny with his angles vision finding oppenings.

Loma by ud in a close fight

I don't think that fight ever sees the final bell KO either way..

Is Loma consudered in his "prime". I would say no. He also lacks the kind of quality opposition Pacman got to face, his best performances were probably the destructions of Barrera & Morales. It was on nights like those the Pacman wrote himself into greatness. Could Loma have lived with that version of the Pacman? I need to see someone force Loma through the gears. Lomachenko was vicious against Roman Martinez, could he dispatch of a fighter in the vein of Eric Morales in similar fashion? I can't wait to find out - there's more to come from Vasyl.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 16:21 Is Loma consudered in his "prime". I would say no. He also lacks the kind of quality opposition Pacman got to face, his best performances were probably the destructions of Barrera & Morales. It was on nights like those the Pacman wrote himself into greatness. Could Loma have lived with that version of the Pacman? I need to see someone force Loma through the gears. Lomachenko was vicious against Roman Martinez, could he dispatch of a fighter in the vein of Eric Morales in similar fashion? I can't wait to find out - there's more to come from Vasyl.

littlepug wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 14:38

man wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 11:32 that would have been some crazy fight.
close, edgy, beyond what i can imagine.

Winner gets Naz

naz has no business being in the
ring with either man.

yes he does naz was excellent.

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 18:34 yes he does naz was excellent.

Against Kevin Kelly he was, but not against Barrera , I loved the way Barrera got him in a half nelson and slammed his head against the ring post that was A+.

Forget prime for prime. Arum said last year he always wanted to match Pac with Loma. What if they fought at 140? Be a good fight to watch.

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 18:59 Forget prime for prime. Arum said last year he always wanted to match Pac with Loma. What if they fought at 140? Be a good fight to watch.

This sounds like very probable fight actually.. maybe at catch weight 138 or something...I think it has a possibility of happening,

Pac in 9 easy

victor-romeo wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:02

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 18:59 Forget prime for prime. Arum said last year he always wanted to match Pac with Loma. What if they fought at 140? Be a good fight to watch.

This sounds like very probable fight actually.. maybe at catch weight 138 or something...I think it has a possibility of happening,

Yes it is possible. Freddie Roach would definitely try to talk him out of it though. He may prefer a fight vs Loma than one vs Crawford. After Crawford beats Horn, Arum will want to line that up. If given that choice, Freddie would want the Loma fight.

As far as prime for prime, if there is random testing Loma easy win. No random testing Pac close win.

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28 As far as prime for prime, if there is random testing Loma easy win. No random testing Pac close win.

Classic Brut.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28 As far as prime for prime, if there is random testing Loma easy win. No random testing Pac close win.

Classic Brut.

Sorry to disappoint you, but not Brut. PM any mod and see what they say.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 16:21 Is Loma consudered in his "prime". I would say no. He also lacks the kind of quality opposition Pacman got to face, his best performances were probably the destructions of Barrera & Morales. It was on nights like those the Pacman wrote himself into greatness. Could Loma have lived with that version of the Pacman? I need to see someone force Loma through the gears. Lomachenko was vicious against Roman Martinez, could he dispatch of a fighter in the vein of Eric Morales in similar fashion? I can't wait to find out - there's more to come from Vasyl

I have to disagree with you here... Pacquiao got knocked out by mediocre opposition when he had 30 fights or so... Barrera got the shitt beat out of him by Amir Khan... You have to actually watch the fight... Morales quit like a coward vs Pac.

I don't see anybody that Pacquiao beat on the way up to match the boxing and punching skills of Gary Russell, Nicholas Walters, and Guillermo Rignodeaux who only lost to Lomachenko and are otherwise undefeated... Barrera got cleaned up by Jr Jones twice and Jr was a chinny kid... At one time Morales lost 5 of 6 fights and he looked fkking terrible...

Lomachenko is in his prime right now... Because he's beating the crap out of the best ... and nobody wants to fight him.

I think Lomachenko is a special talent.. look at his resume right now its truly impressive. Oh yeah i can wait to see him push to his limit but what if it never happen. Go see the PtBF vs Rigo, a lot of boxrec people had Rigo. About the Walters fight same thing. He just made them quit. I would say he beats prime Pac by decision. If he takes the time and go up in weight gradually he will prove is special if he is rush there it might be harder. I could see him defeating Garcia in a year from now so another 3 fight before Mickey

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 18:59 Forget prime for prime. Arum said last year he always wanted to match Pac with Loma. What if they fought at 140? Be a good fight to watch.

oh no. i hate when boxers i love are
mismatched on their way out. pac
would look very bad in that one and
i would not like that a bit.

Loma better boxer, speed equal. Pac was just vicious, so Pacman in a stoppage.

Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28 As far as prime for prime, if there is random testing Loma easy win. No random testing Pac close win.

Classic Brut.

I tend to agree with Badhusker on this one.

I was a huge fan of Manny during his hayday. But, if he was clean, I'd be extremely surprised.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑15 Dec 2017, 20:14

Ricky_ wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28

Badhusker wrote: ↑12 Dec 2017, 19:28 As far as prime for prime, if there is random testing Loma easy win. No random testing Pac close win.

Classic Brut.

I tend to agree with Badhusker on this one.

I was a huge fan of Manny during his hayday. But, if he was clean, I'd be extremely surprised.

It's ironic really - the ped accusations only came about when Mayeweather ducked Pacquiao - and then lost a defamation case and paid Pacquiao out of court. But the really irony is Pac never failed a drugs test, but Floyd got busted.