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or arguably 2nd best.bjs records as about as good.

ggg is the most overrated ive ever seen. as soon as he faced top fighters he didnt win or could only barely win.

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 or arguably 2nd best.bjs records as about as good.

ggg is the most overrated ive ever seen. as soon as he faced top fighters he didnt win or could only barely win.

Well i rate GGG over Lomachenko for sure.


Jacobs , Canelo and Lemiux are all great fighters.


Saunders could beat them all tho

loma has like 10 fights though so rating ther careers hes at a huge disadvantage

saunders could beat slow, face blocking ggg for sure

Now you turn on Lemieux after sucking his ass in countless threads. Typical.

what ass sucking did i do? i picked him to lose from the start you f@cking joke

and im not turning on lem. im not saying hes bad. he can hit and is fun. was top 10 or so . but the guy you just saw is the 2nd best win on someone constantly talked up as an atg.levels, my lazy friend. bjs showed them.

give me spike vs lem

Going to assume this isn't a troll thread and OP is really misguided. Even 2nd tier wins like Rubio rank above Lemieux. Good luck following the sport. It's not that hard, really.

how would you rank gggs wins then

IronFrost wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:08

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 or arguably 2nd best.bjs records as about as good.

ggg is the most overrated ive ever seen. as soon as he faced top fighters he didnt win or could only barely win.

Well i rate GGG over Lomachenko for sure.


Jacobs , Canelo and Lemiux are all great fighters.


Saunders could beat them all tho

Saunders had plenty of opportunity to fight Triple-G in the last 3 years... Lets see if he fights him or FOs again, because Golovkin will beat him... I don't see any natural Middleweights who Hagler ever fought who were on the level of Jacobs, Canelo, or Saunders.

Kalan wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 02:00

IronFrost wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:08

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 or arguably 2nd best.bjs records as about as good.

ggg is the most overrated ive ever seen. as soon as he faced top fighters he didnt win or could only barely win.

Well i rate GGG over Lomachenko for sure.


Jacobs , Canelo and Lemiux are all great fighters.


Saunders could beat them all tho

Saunders had plenty of opportunity to fight Triple-G in the last 3 years... Lets see if he fights him or FOs again, because Golovkin will beat him... I don't see any natural Middleweights who Hagler ever fought who were on the level of Jacobs, Canelo, or Saunders.

Saunders will take Golovkin's jab away and make him miss even worse than Canelo LMAO.


Gipsy King Saunders will box his head offf.

UK taking over boxing like always

Canelo
Jacobs
Murray
Geale
Macklin
Ouma
Rubio
Ishida
Brook

Those if not more rank above Lemieux. Lemieux is probably the worst boxer GGG ever fought.

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:46 what ass sucking did i do? i picked him to lose from the start you f@cking joke

and im not turning on lem. im not saying hes bad. he can hit and is fun. was top 10 or so . but the guy you just saw is the 2nd best win on someone constantly talked up as an atg.levels, my lazy friend. bjs showed them.

give me spike vs lem

Lol you’ve been singing his praises for a fair old time. I guess you couldn’t take the salty ness of his balls in your mouth and flipped last minute. For the record I’m not lazy, well no more or less than the ordinary man. I have a lazboy chair. It reclines. So comfortable.

wtf are you talking about

i never had him beating bjs, so there was no flip. had bjs for months. find me picking lem why dont you. ive also stated on here that hed be explosively kod by jacobs and beaten up by charlo. im on record that i think andrade would outbox him, etc.my biggest talking him up was arguing with saad that hed have a good chance vs old small cotto, and i still think he would have a great shot.i defended his power vs claims that it was wildly overrated and i still have the same belief. so not flipping.

you haveno clue here

I even remember you saying Lemieux didn’t fade in the later rounds. You wouldn’t remember though, given the amount you post daily so I won’t hold it against you. Prove me wrong. Hahaha.

find where i flipped sweetheart.post it if i really had lem beating bjs.

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 04:43 find where i flipped sweetheart.post it if i really had lem beating bjs.

You were smart enough to flip on your love for Lemieux and picked Sanders. I said that but I remember various other Lemieux love posts. Most likely from the thread saad made about Lemieux being overrated. Now don’t you edit/delete them now

on jacobs koing lemieux

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=216558&p=4796784&h ... x#p4796784

jacobs should fight lemieux if lem beats saunders. lem would come at him swinging and jacobs would look a lot more destructive and entertaining in that.would catch him hard.

i want lem-dj. lem will be kod but you know hes not comingvto ve defensive.

on bjs beating lemieux and also saying that lemieux does tire

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=217176&p=4812643&hi ... x#p4812643

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=216772&p=4803355&hi ... x#p4803355

think bjs by decision most likely. lem probably struggled to land clean and bjs has a decent chin. watch ndam vs lem and lem really struggles with a moving target, though ndam moves even more and faster than bjs, just cant hold his shots as well.imo important from bjs perspective that he keeps strong in 2nd half.yes lem does tire but he still keeps throwing later on, just more raggedly.being too negative could enable a hometown workrate decision

he should win though cus lemieux has virtually no skill

picking eubank over lemieux

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eubank

saying that charlo and jacobs are levels above him

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=215598&start=50&hilit=lemieux

lemieux isnt really much of a threat to those guys. he is too lacking in skill. they are p4p ability fighters.

picking lara and andrade over lemieux

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=215761&p=4774826&h ... e#p4774826

plus hurd would be a top guy too. i think talent level of 154 is much higher and these are big guys who would fit in at 160. think lara would ud guys like saunders and lemieux too and canelo was a super close one already.

ggg is slowing and doesnt have much time. canelo vulnerable, and really no else at 160 is that good except for jermall and jacobs.andrade also just came up and think hed beat guys like bjs and lemieux too.

lazboy wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 04:48

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 04:43 find where i flipped sweetheart.post it if i really had lem beating bjs.

You were smart enough to flip on your love for Lemieux and picked Sanders. I said that but I remember various other Lemieux love posts. Most likely from the thread saad made about Lemieux being overrated. Now don’t you edit/delete them now

your memory sucks. as far back as october i was leaning saunders on here. i never thought lemieux would probbaly beat him. most generous i was was saying that it was 60-40. i did think it would be closer but always leaned bjs then picked him outright several times in the last few weeks/

here is from october viewtopic.php?f=9&t=215528&p=4768278&hi ... x#p4768278

bjs wsy better boxer but erratic and a fader, even in last 2 against willy. lem limited but has power and agression combo at highrr leven than any previous bjs opponent. prob bjs wins but dangerous fight.

by the way where did i say that lem doesnt fade? as shown in my previous post im on record saying he does get tired. you need to remember better. the thread where he argued about the reyes fight i simply said that i didnt think he looked exhausted, not that he doesnt fade.

but jesus mary, i said i liked his chances vs cotto, said he wasnt utterly exhausted vs reyes, and think hes not the most overrated puncher in years! wow i was really in his a hole wasnt i

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 05:02 but jesus mary, i said i liked his chances vs cotto, said he wasnt utterly exhausted vs reyes, and think hes not the most overrated puncher in years! wow i was really in his a hole wasnt i

Sounded like you were up in there. He looked sloppy as v Reyes, a bloke who took the fight on 2 weeks and didn’t look like he trained at all. Sloppy sloppy Lemieux.

ya he was sloppy no doubt


but you have some of the lowest 'in his hole' standards ive seen. im on record here and have given links to me saying

-that jacobs explosively kos lemieux
-that jacobs and charlo are levels above
-that lara and andrade would beat lemieux
-that eubank would beat him
-that i think bjs would beat him
-that i think lem has no skill
-that i admit that he does tire

ive favoured bjs since the time it was made

lemieux is a solid top 15 guy. he can beat murata, spike, etc. but for a supposed atg him being a 'big' win is weak sauce.

I replied on British section. Yes fair enough.

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 gggs 2nd best win is lemieux... bjs records as about as good.

This is technically correct, since Daniel Geale was completely shot when he fought GGG, coupled with Kell Brook only being a welterweight.

Technically-speaking, Jacobs and Lemieux are Golovkin's best victories, with Saunders' best wins coming against Eubank Jr., Lee and Lemieux.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 07:41

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 gggs 2nd best win is lemieux... bjs records as about as good.

This is technically correct, since Daniel Geale was completely shot when he fought GGG, coupled with Kell Brook only being a welterweight...

what were the indications of Geale being COMPLETELY SHOT prior to GGG fight?

greg wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 08:40

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 07:41

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 01:03 gggs 2nd best win is lemieux... bjs records as about as good.

This is technically correct, since Daniel Geale was completely shot when he fought GGG, coupled with Kell Brook only being a welterweight...

what were the indications of Geale being COMPLETELY SHOT prior to GGG fight?

Prior to the Golovkin-Geale fight, I posted a lengthy explanation about my belief of the Aussie being a shot fighter.

People didn't believe me. They said that it was Golovkin's superior ability alone that won him that fight.

They criticised my words harshly and then attacked me again for predicting that Miguel Cotto would completely destroy Geale, once again, due to my belief about the Aussie being "shot".

I was proven right, once again.

For the record, Geale's performances in the Barker and the Wood fights compelled me to believe that he was "shot". He looked awful against those guys.

Most people disagreed with me at the time, but somehow I got lucky and saw "something" that others didn't.

Sometimes I'm wrong about things, but in regards to Daniel Geale, I was 100% right.