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PATHETIC. I'm tired of hearing boxers say that they want to fight the very best "for the fans" and then turn around and blatantly do the opposite. Mikey Garcia, while negotiating with Golden Boy for the Linares fight, received EVERYTHING that he demanded (50/50 split and no future ties). Garcia backs out at the last second to sign a fight with virtually unknown Super Lightweight Champ Lipinets (13-0) calling it a "Business Decision". What kind of business decision is that Mikey? To make way less money? Do me a favor and don't run any of my businesses, Mikey.

Admittedly, he wants a 4th World Title in 4th weight division but calls it a business decision. This is cherry picking at it's finest and I'm tired of how everyone has jumped on Garcia's bandwagon since coming back to boxing. It's undeserved and unwarranted. Garcia has a resume littered with cherry picking belts and not fighting the top fighters. Garcia has fought 37 times and the top name on his resume is Orlando Salido, a HOF boxer but 13 other boxers can also say they defeated him. Take a look at his resume and the title fights that he's chosen and tell me why he gets a pass with all of you? This recent duck and I'll call it that is pathetic. Fans shouldn't let him get away with it. I won't.

“Everyone has” NOT “jumped on his bandwagon.” But he did comprehensively beat Broner last time out, so I am giving him a partial pass on the Lipinets fight.

Garcia doesn't strikes me as the kind of guy who would want to avoid anyone.

He's gutsy.

In this case, Garcia is simply doing what's currently best for business.

I would never fault a fighter for that.

There's plenty time for bigger, more anticipated fights.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑20 Dec 2017, 16:02 Garcia doesn't strikes me as the kind of guy who would want to avoid anyone.

He's gutsy.

In this case, Garcia is simply doing what's currently best for business.

I would never fault a fighter for that.

There's plenty time for bigger, more anticipated fights.

Garcia has never sought out tough challenges. He is in it for the for one reason - to make money. Haymon didn't want him fighting on HBO so gave him a ton of money. I don't really blame him, but to consider him anything other than a cherry picker is ridiculous.

He is dumb

Jockpunk, it's ridiculous not to think that all fighters are pretty much in it for one BIG reason---money.

Fans only care about the actual fights.

The fighters (and their management) however, see the bigger picture and are more concerned with the financial elements. Minimize risk, maximize earnings.

It's not really all that fun getting pounded on the head for a living. If a fighter like Garcia wants to build up his ledger, and the price is acceptable, I think he's entitled. the public shouldn't squawk.

And if Garcia, someday, wants to earn mega-bucks, then he'll have to confront a mega-fighter (or at least one who has that kind of reputation.)

So far, Garcia has soundly beaten solid fighters like Salido, Juanma, Roman Martinez, Burgos, Zlaticanin and the much bigger Broner. Now he's moving up in weight to take on an unbeaten champion.

It doesn't sound like cherry-picking to me.

Nobody fights everybody, although fans always whine about that and quickly brand a fighter a "dodger."

Time will tell. But Mikey Garcia certainly doesn't strike me as someone who will spend his career running from any true challenge.

Just as long as the money is right.

Just because he isn't fighting who you want him to fight, give him a break. I thought Broner was going to be tough for him.
If he signs to fight for a belt, what is the problem with that?
Having a belt gives him leverage both or matchups, and for purse bids.
Let's wait an see what he does afterwards eh?

Dude just fought Dejan and Broner, and you're talking about cherry-picking. FFS, what an awful poster. Lipinets is a good fighter too.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Dec 2017, 22:18 Dude just fought Dejan and Broner, and you're talking about cherry-picking. FFS, what an awful poster. Lipinets is a good fighter too.

Broner sucks and is no kind of claim to puff up a guy's resume

It's his 4th weight class. I don't have any problem with his opponent. I'd rather see him fighting LInares, but if he's staying at 140 he could certainly do worse than Lipinets.

Here is Arum's response to Mikey's claims that he wouldn't want Mikey vs Loma:

http://www.BS.com/bob-arum-rea ... um=twitter

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2017, 11:52 Here is Arum's response to Mikey's claims that he wouldn't want Mikey vs Loma:

http://www.BS.com/bob-arum-rea ... um=twitter

Arum is full of it, and always has been. If you listen to half of what he says, and believe half of that, you are getting close to him being honest. Garcia told Loma to his face he would fight him, and to contact him as soon as he is ready. That hasn't happened yet.

loma has also said to mikeys face he wants it and has said various times in interviews, tweets, etc. zomg it hasnt happened yet so it must be mikeys teams fault!

as for cherrypicking, lipinets is throughly mediocre and looks very much like a '4th weight class title' move. but zlat for second fight after layoff was very legit, and moving up for broner was legit.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑21 Dec 2017, 10:51

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑20 Dec 2017, 22:18 Dude just fought Dejan and Broner, and you're talking about cherry-picking. FFS, what an awful poster. Lipinets is a good fighter too.

Broner sucks and is no kind of claim to puff up a guy's resume

He moved up and outboxed Broner. You're the only one hating on that win. Goes to show what kind of fan you are.

broners solid at 140. u just have to view him outside the lens of the initial overhype

I've always been a fan of Broner's ability but Robert Garcia has the blueprint on how to defeat Broner. Mikey Garcia was a huge part of Maidana's camp and his role was to fight like Broner and mimic him in the ring. So Mikey already put the work in knowing Broner inside and out and that's the only reason he signed that fight too. So that is also a version of cherry picking a fight.

Sergey Lipinets is such a flawed boxer still learning on the job. Take a look at tape on this guy and tell me how he stands any chance against a technically superior boxer like Garcia. The kid can't defend a slow straight right for goodness sake. Lipinets vs. Garcia is going to look like the Lemieux/BJS fight...mirror image. Mikey will not lose an exchange in that fight, never mind a round. Cherry Picking.

I hope MG cherry picks Loma pretty soon.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2017, 11:52 Here is Arum's response to Mikey's claims that he wouldn't want Mikey vs Loma:

http://www.BS.com/bob-arum-rea ... um=twitter

How to tell someone doesn’t know S H I T about boxing.

Method #7
Dudes quoting Arum as a source.


You new fans should do what I did.
Shut up and read from experienced fans before talking.

Arum put Loma against Salido in his second fight when it wasn't yet clear how good he is at pro. No way he will be hiding Loma from Mikey. Loma wants it, and the only way the fight isn't happening is Garcia pricing himself out.

LOL at "experienced fans" with agenda.

Mikey-Lipinets is not bad fight

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑23 Dec 2017, 13:34 Arum put Loma against Salido in his second fight when it wasn't yet clear how good he is at pro. No way he will be hiding Loma from Mikey. Loma wants it, and the only way the fight isn't happening is Garcia pricing himself out.

LOL at "experienced fans" with agenda.

No. Arum put Loma in a position where he thought he would get an easy title shot against a 34 yr old Salido with a dozen losses and was not a big puncher. This was a year after Mikey Garcia absolutely dominated Salido. It's a good thing it wasn't Loma vs Garcia then, or we wouldn't even be debating who would win between Loma and Garcia. Now Arum thinks Loma would absolutely destroy MG so bad it isn't even worth lining up.

Badhusker wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 10:22

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑23 Dec 2017, 13:34 Arum put Loma against Salido in his second fight when it wasn't yet clear how good he is at pro. No way he will be hiding Loma from Mikey. Loma wants it, and the only way the fight isn't happening is Garcia pricing himself out.

LOL at "experienced fans" with agenda.

No. Arum put Loma in a position where he thought he would get an easy title shot against a 34 yr old Salido with a dozen losses and was not a big puncher. This was a year after Mikey Garcia absolutely dominated Salido. It's a good thing it wasn't Loma vs Garcia then, or we wouldn't even be debating who would win between Loma and Garcia. Now Arum thinks Loma would absolutely destroy MG so bad it isn't even worth lining up.

It was a year when Garcia got injured by Salido and preferred to quit instead of finishing the fight.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 12:54

Badhusker wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 10:22

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑23 Dec 2017, 13:34 Arum put Loma against Salido in his second fight when it wasn't yet clear how good he is at pro. No way he will be hiding Loma from Mikey. Loma wants it, and the only way the fight isn't happening is Garcia pricing himself out.

LOL at "experienced fans" with agenda.

No. Arum put Loma in a position where he thought he would get an easy title shot against a 34 yr old Salido with a dozen losses and was not a big puncher. This was a year after Mikey Garcia absolutely dominated Salido. It's a good thing it wasn't Loma vs Garcia then, or we wouldn't even be debating who would win between Loma and Garcia. Now Arum thinks Loma would absolutely destroy MG so bad it isn't even worth lining up.

It was a year when Garcia got injured by Salido and preferred to quit instead of finishing the fight.

Give me a fornicating break. Yes, MG quit after Salido broke his nose after an illegal head butt, but had knocked him down 4 times within the 8 rounds they fought. He had him totally shut out up until the fight ended. Try again to tell me how Arum will not shy away from matching Loma with MG. Feel free to use their common opponent.

Badhusker wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 18:18

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 12:54

Badhusker wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 10:22


No. Arum put Loma in a position where he thought he would get an easy title shot against a 34 yr old Salido with a dozen losses and was not a big puncher. This was a year after Mikey Garcia absolutely dominated Salido. It's a good thing it wasn't Loma vs Garcia then, or we wouldn't even be debating who would win between Loma and Garcia. Now Arum thinks Loma would absolutely destroy MG so bad it isn't even worth lining up.

It was a year when Garcia got injured by Salido and preferred to quit instead of finishing the fight.

Give me a effing break. Yes, MG quit after Salido broke his nose after an illegal head butt, but had knocked him down 4 times within the 8 rounds they fought. He had him totally shut out up until the fight ended. Try again to tell me how Arum will not shy away from matching Loma with MG. Feel free to use their common opponent.

The last time Salido was down was round 4. He kept coming for a few rounds after that and broke Mikey's nose. He was a tough challenge for everybody and especially for somebody having his second pro fight and being 7 pounds lighter.