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The WBU scandal - no mandatory's
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:28
by bennie
dr_hook posted something I didn't know after the proposed Ricky Hatton-Vivian Harris fight fell through last month. He wrote:
"allegedly is scared he will lose on purse bids to other promoters that will force Hatton to fight in another country. That’s why the WBU title exists. There are no mandatory fights and you can fight any bums. Hatton never defended the British title because when he was the champ Junior Witter was the mandatory fighter for the title. Hatton also never fought for the European title because Warren would of lost the purse to Urkal handlers."
It was a post that got me thinking, especially about the WBU. If there are no mandatory's, then a champion, as dr_hook says, can pick ANYONE in the top 10 or the top 15 every time he fights. That has to be a bit of a scandal.
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:30
by steve689
What an absolute f*****g joke...Amir Khan for goodness sake when you turn professional....CHOOSE WISELY!!!!
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:34
by nickd
WBU is the pits.
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:35
by steve689
WBUnbelievable

Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:41
by Freiheit
The WBU 140 top ten is:
1: Mayweather
2: Hatton
3: Mitchell
4: Cotto
5: Harris
6: Spadafora
7: Gatti
8: Witter
9: Dorin
10: Urkal
So they have to find Hattons opponents (way) outside the top 10
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:44
by Freiheit
Seeing the WBU ratings they look vary much as the boxrec ratings on "rating day"
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:44
by glittermonkey
That says it all, they don't even have their champ at #1.
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 11:52
by steve689
glittermonkey wrote:That says it all, they don't even have their champ at #1.

That's what i was thinking

Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 12:17
by bennie
Freiheit wrote:The WBU 140 top ten is:
1: Mayweather
2: Hatton
3: Mitchell
4: Cotto
5: Harris
6: Spadafora
7: Gatti
8: Witter
9: Dorin
10: Urkal
So they have to find Hattons opponents (way) outside the top 10
So where's Mike Stewart? It proves they can pick and choose challengers.
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 12:22
by REAL_DEAL
Also why is mayweather above Hatton in the rankings? surely their champ should be number 1
World title

Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 12:26
by bennie
REAL_DEAL wrote:Also why is mayweather above Hatton in the rankings? surely their champ should be number 1
World title

The WBU flaunt this top 10 on their website. It makes one wonder where Carlos Vilches is ranked, or Aldo Rios, or Dennis Pedersen...
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 12:43
by nickd
!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 13:54
by My T Sharp
This is spot on. This rubbish is extracted from the WBU website.
"Since its formation, the WBU has attempted to change and clarify a few of the outdated rules and operating procedures in the world of professional boxing. It has not been our policy to impose mandatory defences, unless the WBU champion attempts to avoid the leading contenders in his particular weight division. We at the WBU have implemented a computerised Ratings Guide, a fighter’s position within this system is based solely upon the individual’s record and ability. The only way for any fighter to improve his position is to defeat an opponent above him. Therefore, no fighter can be moved up the rankings or into the ‘top ten’ by any means other than his own achievements in the ring. This is the only criteria by which a fighter can be granted a world title challenge."
http://www.wbu.cc/history.asp
The website is a joke. It has more stuff about Sports Network fighters on its homepage than the allegedly site does.

Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 14:19
by bennie
My T Sharp wrote:This is spot on. This rubbish is extracted from the WBU website.
"Since its formation, the WBU has attempted to change and clarify a few of the outdated rules and operating procedures in the world of professional boxing. It has not been our policy to impose mandatory defences, unless the WBU champion attempts to avoid the leading contenders in his particular weight division. We at the WBU have implemented a computerised Ratings Guide, a fighter’s position within this system is based solely upon the individual’s record and ability. The only way for any fighter to improve his position is to defeat an opponent above him. Therefore, no fighter can be moved up the rankings or into the ‘top ten’ by any means other than his own achievements in the ring. This is the only criteria by which a fighter can be granted a world title challenge."
http://www.wbu.cc/history.asp
The website is a joke. It has more stuff about Sports Network fighters on its homepage than the allegedly site does.

This computerised ratings system they boast about is a bit of a mystery. Nothing but top 10 listings on the site. Have just emailed them enquiring as to where Mike Stewart is ranked with them...
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 14:22
by My T Sharp
Did you e-mail the WBU or Sports Network?
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 14:25
by bennie
My T Sharp wrote:
Did you e-mail the WBU or Sports Network?
Yeah, I know. Good work, by the way.

Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 19:39
by theguru
I thought this was common knowledge,u can fight anyone in the top 100
Posted: 13 Sep 2004, 19:44
by neil r
theguru wrote:I thought this was common knowledge,u can fight anyone in the top 100
so how come hattons getting away with not doing that then?