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Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 05:19**

"[The possibility of breaking Mayweather's record] came across my ears from the people that's around me. It also had me think about it just a little bit. Those achievements.. and if I make it goal - it will definitely happen. I can easily beat all of those guys records, easily. I'm just stepping into the prime of my career. I just walked into the door. I mastered my craft. I know everything about myself in the ring," Wilder told Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports.

"And being able to have power, it makes all the difference. A lot of people think that I just rely on my power, but I don't have to rely on something that's naturally for me.... it's natural. Those goals definitely will be broken. It's not that its something that I'm seeking, but it would look nice on my resume. Hell, I might even pass George Foreman's record of being the oldest champion." from BS.

I have no single doubt that Wilder could be 100-0 with having opponents like Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols.

Anyway I have to give Wilder his fair props for taking Ortiz although Ortiz is 38 y/o.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 10:24**

If he can stay healthy, which is always a problem for him, Wilder can easily top 50-0.

Also assuming he fights 3 times a year.

The heavyweight division isn't exactly loaded with 70s era talent, so why shouldn't he be unable to shatter the mark?

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:39**

I'd favor Wilder against everyone but Joshua. Unlikely to make the mark, but not impossible.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:44**

SenorPipino wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 10:24 If he can stay healthy, which is always a problem for him, Wilder can easily top 50-0.

Also assuming he fights 3 times a year.

The heavyweight division isn't exactly loaded with 70s era talent, so why shouldn't he be unable to shatter the mark?

Wilder will stay healthy as long as he's gonna keep fighting bums and tomato-cans. I'm surprised he accepted to fight an ancient Ortiz.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:46**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:44
SenorPipino wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 10:24 If he can stay healthy, which is always a problem for him, Wilder can easily top 50-0.

Also assuming he fights 3 times a year.

The heavyweight division isn't exactly loaded with 70s era talent, so why shouldn't he be unable to shatter the mark?
Wilder will stay healthy as long as he's gonna keep fighting bums and tomato-cans. I'm surprised he accepted to fight an ancient Ortiz.

That "anciet" Ortiz is top 4 heavyweight at worst.

Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:48**

Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:39 I'd favor Wilder against everyone but Joshua. Unlikely to make the mark, but not impossible.

The problem with Joshua is he's too one dimensional-straightforward type of fighter.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:49**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:48
Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:39 I'd favor Wilder against everyone but Joshua. Unlikely to make the mark, but not impossible.
The problem with Joshua is he's too one dimensional-straightforward type of fighter.

Than tell us who is good

If not Ortiz or Joshua ROFL.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:51**

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:44
SenorPipino wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 10:24 If he can stay healthy, which is always a problem for him, Wilder can easily top 50-0.

Also assuming he fights 3 times a year.

The heavyweight division isn't exactly loaded with 70s era talent, so why shouldn't he be unable to shatter the mark?
Wilder will stay healthy as long as he's gonna keep fighting bums and tomato-cans. I'm surprised he accepted to fight an ancient Ortiz.
That "anciet" Ortiz is top 4 heavyweight at worst.

Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

Sadly Ortiz is one of the top hw which shows us how weak is the hw division atm.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:53**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:51
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:44

Wilder will stay healthy as long as he's gonna keep fighting bums and tomato-cans. I'm surprised he accepted to fight an ancient Ortiz.
That "anciet" Ortiz is top 4 heavyweight at worst.

Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG
Sadly Ortiz is one of the top hw which shows us how weak is the hw division atm.

Sadly? Because he has long reach , decent skills and great amateuer experience? Also is undefeated puncher and southpaw?

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 11:58**

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:48
Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:39 I'd favor Wilder against everyone but Joshua. Unlikely to make the mark, but not impossible.
The problem with Joshua is he's too one dimensional-straightforward type of fighter.
Than tell us who is good If not Ortiz or Joshua ROFL.

It's a weak era of hw division but Joshua is the man to beat.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 12:01**

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:53
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:51
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46

That "anciet" Ortiz is top 4 heavyweight at worst.

Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG
Sadly Ortiz is one of the top hw which shows us how weak is the hw division atm.

Sadly? Because he has long reach , decent skills and great amateuer experience? Also is undefeated puncher and southpaw?

C'mon man , Ortiz is 38 y/o. If he was that younger version who beat Thompson I'd say that he's solid top hw.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 12:03**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 12:01
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:53
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:51

Sadly Ortiz is one of the top hw which shows us how weak is the hw division atm.

Sadly? Because he has long reach , decent skills and great amateuer experience? Also is undefeated puncher and southpaw?
C'mon man , Ortiz is 38 y/o. If he was that younger version who beat Thompson I'd say that he's solid top hw.

So is Povetkin and yet still he has so many dickriders on every forum. Ortiz is better and more dangerous than Pedvetkin.

And so was Klitschko

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:12**

There's more to a record than just numbers. Even so, I don't expect Wilder to be able to hit 50-0 and remain unbeaten from there. Even against the level of opposition he's faced up to now.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:20**

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:48
Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:39 I'd favor Wilder against everyone but Joshua. Unlikely to make the mark, but not impossible.
The problem with Joshua is he's too one dimensional-straightforward type of fighter.
Than tell us who is good If not Ortiz or Joshua ROFL.

Straightforward type of fighter? Worked for Joe Louis and George Foreman. At least most of the time.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:33**

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 12:03
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 12:01
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:53

Sadly? Because he has long reach , decent skills and great amateuer experience? Also is undefeated puncher and southpaw?
C'mon man , Ortiz is 38 y/o. If he was that younger version who beat Thompson I'd say that he's solid top hw.

So is Povetkin and yet still he has so many dickriders on every forum. Ortiz is better and more dangerous than Pedvetkin.

And so was Klitschko

Probably.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:35**

Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 13:20
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:48

The problem with Joshua is he's too one dimensional-straightforward type of fighter.
Than tell us who is good If not Ortiz or Joshua ROFL.
Straightforward type of fighter? Worked for Joe Louis and George Foreman. At least most of the time.

AJ showed some flaws against Takam.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:44**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 13:35
Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 13:20
IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:49

Than tell us who is good If not Ortiz or Joshua ROFL.
Straightforward type of fighter? Worked for Joe Louis and George Foreman. At least most of the time.
AJ showed some flaws against Takam.

And if a guy of the dubious quality of Takam can expose some flaws in Joshua's armor, imagine what Wilder would be able to expose.

Tiiiiiimbeeeer!

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 13:53**

Takam would be able to give Wilder more problems than he gave Joshua I figure. Though it's not out of the question that Wilder could catch him early.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 14:31**

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 05:19 I have no single doubt that Wilder could be 100-0 with having opponents like Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols.

Anyway I have to give Wilder his fair props for taking Ortiz although Ortiz is 38 y/o.

Be carefull what you're saying, Bermaine once went to distance with him, Arreola send him to hospital, Szpilka was ahead in rounds at some point and Dustin Nichols knocked him down!

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 14:42**

asdfjkl wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 14:31
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 05:19 I have no single doubt that Wilder could be 100-0 with having opponents like Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols.

Anyway I have to give Wilder his fair props for taking Ortiz although Ortiz is 38 y/o.
Be carefull what you're saying, Bermaine once went to distance with him, Arreola send him to hospital, Szpilka was ahead in rounds at some point and Dustin Nichols knocked him down!

Bemaine was a better fighter then and Wilder was much greener then. An injury sent him to the hospital, not Arreola. Szpilkva was not ahead on points, and Sconiers knocked him down. Don't think Nichols did, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 14:44**

Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 14:42
asdfjkl wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 14:31
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 05:19 I have no single doubt that Wilder could be 100-0 with having opponents like Bermane Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols.

Anyway I have to give Wilder his fair props for taking Ortiz although Ortiz is 38 y/o.
Be carefull what you're saying, Bermaine once went to distance with him, Arreola send him to hospital, Szpilka was ahead in rounds at some point and Dustin Nichols knocked him down!
Bemaine was a better fighter then and Wilder was much greener then. An injury sent him to the hospital, not Arreola. Szpilkva was not ahead on points, and Sconiers knocked him down. Don't think Nichols did, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.

Sconers also? I didn't even know that, Szpilka was ahead on points in the early rounds.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 15:01**

Bottom line is Wilder was feasted with some of the finest tomato cans from the hw division! Now he man up and decided to fight a top veteran. What a brave champion!

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 17:25**

There are two completely separate goals that Wilder can pursue, but he can only choose one of them.
1) Fight bums and beat Mayweather's record.
2) Fight good opponents and have a meaningful career.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 17:25**

If he keeps fighting heavy bags like he has done his whole career, he can beat the record.

Posted: **06 Jan 2018, 17:33**

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 17:25 If he keeps fighting heavy bags like he has done his whole career, he can beat the record.

Let him first beat William Bezerra his record, after that we'll see if he's still protected enough to survive that.

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