Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jan 2018, 11:22
Lackeos wrote: ↑10 Jan 2018, 08:57
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jan 2018, 03:59
Damn, was 2017 Dimitrenko's best year? Guy beat two undefeated prospects.
Well, if it wasn't 2017, it was 2008 when he beat Derrick Rossy and Luan Krasniqi, which probably were the better scalps given their ability at the time. Also, Rovcanin was barely a prospect.
He was rated #242 on boxrec, so struggling mightily with him and being saved by point deductions is not a good look. Like, that fight was one point deduction away from Dimitrenko losing a SD to a fighter who is more than 100 ranks below Malcolm Tann, Mark de Mori, Yakup Saglam, etc.
You're simply a BoxRec warrior.
Anyone who literally takes those numbers to heart is an absolute idiot.
Okay. Well please don't compare 2017 boxers to 2008 boxers, because you weren't around in 2008, and you clearly don't know the first sh*t about how good Krasniqi and Rossy were in 2008. I could try to teach you all about how Krasniqi's opposition was vastly superior to Rovcanin's, but I don't expect the lesson to take root.
First, let's review Rovcanin's best professional wins.
Mbaruku Kheri: With a 12-7 record at the time of the fight, Kheri is definitely Rovcanin's greatest conquest. Kheri has never beat an opponent with a boxrec rating higher than 3. 12 of the 16 opponents Kheri has beaten were winless.
Attila Makula: This guy is 8-17 right now, and all 8 of the opponents he beat were corpses with boxrec ratings of 0.
Denes Toth: This guy was a 1-0 nobody whose record now sits at 2-3, and his two wins were both against debutants. He's literally never beaten an opponent who has a single win.
It should be noted that most people on the forum have never read any of these names before, except possibly when reading Rovcanin's record. Also, none of them had a boxrec rating higher than 5.
Before we get into Luan Krasniqi's professional record, it is worth pointing out that Rovcanin has no amateur accomplishments, whereas Krasniqi won a silver medal at the world amateur championships, a bronze medal at the Olympics, and a gold medal at the European amateur championships. He beat Wladimir Klitschko and Ruslan Chagaev in amateur competition.
So now on to Krasniqi's best professional wins.
Sinan Samil Sam: You wouldn't even know how good Sinan Samil Sam was in 2008, you weren't around. In amateur competition, he won a world amateur championship gold medal, a world amateur championship bronze medal, and silver / bronze medals at the European championships. This is substantially more medals than are possessed by the bums Rovcanin has fought; but I encourage you to check anyway. As a professional, he beat Danny Williams (who in 2003 was roughly as good as Dimitrenko is now), Paulo Vidoz (3 bronze medals in world amateur competition), Bob Mirovic, Saul Montana, George Arias, Okello Peter, Lawrence Clay Bey, Denis Bakhtov, Julius Francis, and Przemyslaw Saleta (all of whom were ranked higher at the time than Rovcanin has ever been in his entire life).
Lance Whitaker: This is another fighter whom you have no idea how good he was in 2008 because you're new here. It should be noted that as an amateur, Lance Whitaker won the national golden gloves and a bronze medal at the Pan American games, which is better than anything Rovcanin has ever done in his life. As a professional, Whitaker beat Monte Barrett (title challenger), Oleg Maskaev (world titlist), Cliff Couser, Friday Ahunanya, and Andrey Fedosov.
Whatever, I gotta go to work now. I don't even have time to explain to you how good
Brian Minto was in 2007, but he was easily better than the version you know him as from 2016. It's important to note that, unlike Denes Koth, not all of Minto's scalps were themselves winless corpses.
Most of these fighters were borderline top 25 at their heights, whereas none of Rovcanin's opponents have ever been in the top 500, and Rovcanin himself has never been in the top 200.
