Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin (WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 18:20
by wesshaw1985
looks like its on.
Hopefully Saunders can fight around the same time and get the winner...
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 19:03
by Oiky
Ggg win, again
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 19:29
by Nightmare Roy
Got to go with Canelo this time, he'll have grown in confidence after the last fight, he'll also want to put an end to the criticism he's taken. I imagine he'll put more rounds in like the first couple from the first fight and win a legit UD
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 20:14
by Taansend
I thought a draw was a fair result last time although GGG may have slightly edged it if you go by aggression. But Canelos defensive movement was excellent. He was making GGG miss & countering well, although maybe not enough.
Next fight will be equally close.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 11 Jan 2018, 20:43
by Wa1nuts
I made the trip over for the last fight and at the time I had no idea who won after a few too many bevvies, watched it back an went for a draw but I was biased towards Canelo.
This time I think Canelo will win it clearly. He certainly has the ability but has to bring the fight to Ggg more than the first time.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 00:15
by jamamb
canelo wins all day. just move those hands a bit more. he had all the quality from the first fight but in too many rounds he didnt do enough to win them clearly. you can give away rounds like that because even if the other guys not as accurate he can build up more connects simply by throwing a lot.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 02:14
by samwbr
Golovkin if it's in New York to right the wrong of Vegas. In Vegas Alvarez will get it unless he's knocked out.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 05:38
by MightyWarrior
From the must see first fight, it’s the not massively bothered 2nd fight. It’ll be more of the same - a slightly disappointing cagey 12 round affair
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 06:35
by Marlo Stanfield
jamamb wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 00:15
canelo wins all day. just move those hands a bit more. he had all the quality from the first fight but in too many rounds he didnt do enough to win them clearly. you can give away rounds like that because even if the other guys not as accurate he can build up more connects simply by throwing a lot.
how can you say that when he clearly lost the first fight and got a gift decision? Golovkin won at least 7 rounds of that fight clearly
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 06:50
by PredatorHayds
Fantastic work from Loeffler and Team GGG if it’s in New York.
Can’t see De La Hoya letting this fight happen outside Vegas though.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 07:25
by weelegs
That 118-110 scorecard still haunts me, hope GGG rights the wrongs from the last fight
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 07:46
by Yes We Can
I think Canelo takes this. I think he can outbox him and another 10% more punches take a deserved decision. The last fight was very tight, but how much more can GGG give?
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 13:17
by Sam98
Canelo to edge the rematch on points.. Hope I'm wrong though!
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 13:45
by lurkyshaka
I think GGG is the better fighter and under truly neutral conditions I'd not hesitate to pick him again.....
But there is an agenda at work here. This like the first fight will not be a fair fight. Golovkin is not supposed to prevail and that concerns me.
Last time was an 8-4 type win for Golovkin, but he wasn't allowed to walk away with the W.
Can he win a decision? Which corrupt officials will be in place this time?
My mindset ahead of this is less about the contest fistically....and more about the officiating and how exactly they will be loading the die.
I hear some people talk about how Alvarez has more scope for improvement and just needs to move less and punch a bit more, but he'd have punched more last time if he was able. But he didn't because he's got an inherent stamina problem and because if he punches more he'll give Golovkin chance to uncork something major on him.
Truth is Alvarez will come in with the same gameplan. He couldn't stop Golovkin in his tracks last time and he won't second time around.....I just look for Alvarez to try and punch more in the last 20-30 seconds of rounds as he tries to steal rounds.
I just hope we see a fair fight and a fair conclusion decided on merit.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 14:08
by Boxerbeetle
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 13:45
I think GGG is the better fighter and under truly neutral conditions I'd not hesitate to pick him again.....
But there is an agenda at work here. This like the first fight will not be a fair fight. Golovkin is not supposed to prevail and that concerns me.
Last time was an 8-4 type win for Golovkin, but he wasn't allowed to walk away with the W.
Can he win a decision? Which corrupt officials will be in place this time?
My mindset ahead of this is less about the contest fistically....and more about the officiating and how exactly they will be loading the die.
I hear some people talk about how Alvarez has more scope for improvement and just needs to move less and punch a bit more, but he'd have punched more last time if he was able. But he didn't because he's got an inherent stamina problem and because if he punches more he'll give Golovkin chance to uncork something major on him.
Truth is Alvarez will come in with the same gameplan. He couldn't stop Golovkin in his tracks last time and he won't second time around.....I just look for Alvarez to try and punch more in the last 20-30 seconds of rounds as he tries to steal rounds.
I just hope we see a fair fight and a fair conclusion decided on merit.
That’s the thing - people saying Canelo will be more aggressive in the rematch are being hugely optimistic. In reality, all he needs to do is stay away and make it to the final bell, and he knows he’ll get at least a draw. So that’s exactly what he’ll do. Boxing really is corrupt when it comes to Goldenboy’s main fighter.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑12 Jan 2018, 13:45
I think GGG is the better fighter and under truly neutral conditions I'd not hesitate to pick him again.....
But there is an agenda at work here. This like the first fight will not be a fair fight. Golovkin is not supposed to prevail and that concerns me.
Last time was an 8-4 type win for Golovkin, but he wasn't allowed to walk away with the W.
Can he win a decision? Which corrupt officials will be in place this time?
My mindset ahead of this is less about the contest fistically....and more about the officiating and how exactly they will be loading the die.
I hear some people talk about how Alvarez has more scope for improvement and just needs to move less and punch a bit more, but he'd have punched more last time if he was able. But he didn't because he's got an inherent stamina problem and because if he punches more he'll give Golovkin chance to uncork something major on him.
Truth is Alvarez will come in with the same gameplan. He couldn't stop Golovkin in his tracks last time and he won't second time around.....I just look for Alvarez to try and punch more in the last 20-30 seconds of rounds as he tries to steal rounds.
I just hope we see a fair fight and a fair conclusion decided on merit.
That’s the thing - people saying Canelo will be more aggressive in the rematch are being hugely optimistic. In reality, all he needs to do is stay away and make it to the final bell, and he knows he’ll get at least a draw. So that’s exactly what he’ll do. Boxing really is corrupt when it comes to Goldenboy’s main fighter.
Yeah exactly......all I expect differently is Alvarez trying to time his flurries to enable a couple of judges to 'find' enough rounds for him not to lose. The officials and location are the key thing going into this and that's appalling really.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 16:38
by dr_devious
Another close fight, Canelo gets the nod this time
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 17:01
by Manc_Red
GGG showed he's the real deal in the first fight and we all know he was robbed of a straight forward win there.
GGG will have far too much for Canelo and I'd say he'd have to go for a KO because we all know what happens if it goes to a scorecard yet again.
Fight must happen and this time lets hope De La Hoya doesn't recruit some bird he stole clothes from and paid very well to do as she's told yet again.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 18:43
by BitPlayer
Interesting.
I thought GGG won last time, but he is getting older, and Canelo has shown he is good at learning and improving, I think he could maybe do it this time.
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 16:47
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 16:49
by jamamb
canelo will win.
if ggg wins i will change my user name to anything ppl want me to
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 16:54
by BitPlayer
jamamb wrote: ↑29 Jan 2018, 16:49
canelo will win.
if ggg wins i will change my user name to anything ppl want me to
I vote YoungZelenoff
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 16:55
by jamamb
good suggestion sir
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 29 Jan 2018, 17:26
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin vs. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez II - May 5th 2018
Posted: 30 Jan 2018, 01:53
by jamesmcdonnell
I think GGG needs to put a lot more pressure on canelo this time. He seemed content to box to points victory that very nearly blew up in his face. Canelo can't work 3 minutes of a round, golovkin needs to ensure that he's forced to.