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Assuming it's against a non-Brit. How many tickets does it sell?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 15:14 Assuming it's against a non-Brit. How many tickets does it sell?

This is all going to depend on opponent and venue.
No clue without knowing these

I’d like to see Fury have a bit of a mini-Foreman style comeback and fight half a dozen times this year, though is doubt that’ll happen!

I think he’ll sign with Warren, mainly because Frank will try to build him back up to win, whereas Hearn will build him back up to get in the ring with Joshua, two very different things.

If so Warren will probably use him on his undercards. He’s not a big sell and if he’s going to turn that around he needs to put in some good eye catching performances. He could well be chief support for Warrington/Selby, Flanagan/Hooker and Saunders next outing. If he pulls the finger out he could have fought three times, albeit against very low level guys, by the summer break.

In reality I think he’ll fight Briggs and that’ll be in till Sept. Hopefully not

If it's him as the main event I can see it being a smaller hall show at first at least, as even after all this time out of the ring; the man can still sell a fight and get people talking in the right way.

I could see him being part of a sold out show in a smaller arena at first, somewhere like the motor point arena in Nottingham, a 10,000 strong crowd would be a good welcome back to the sport for him but he wouldn't be headlining the show, final fight of the main card maybe depending on his condition and opponent but you'd need a strong main event to bring the bulk of the crowd in.

Assuming he gets matched up against some European opponent as his first fight back to test the waters so to speak, I could see him probably fighting someone like Sean Turner (Ireland, ranked #1 . 12-4), Sam sexton (UK, current British champion 24-3) or even Lenroy Thomas (Current Commonwealth champion 22-4) for their respective title afterwards as a platform to return to the world stage.

fizzjambo wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 15:43 I’d like to see Fury have a bit of a mini-Foreman style comeback and fight half a dozen times this year, though is doubt that’ll happen!

I think he’ll sign with Warren, mainly because Frank will try to build him back up to win, whereas Hearn will build him back up to get in the ring with Joshua, two very different things.

If so Warren will probably use him on his undercards. He’s not a big sell and if he’s going to turn that around he needs to put in some good eye catching performances. He could well be chief support for Warrington/Selby, Flanagan/Hooker and Saunders next outing. If he pulls the finger out he could have fought three times, albeit against very low level guys, by the summer break.

In reality I think he’ll fight Briggs and that’ll be in till Sept. Hopefully not

Really can't see Fury being anyones undercard fighter , he really believes he's the best fighter on the planet , maybee he would agree on a BJS - GGG card , but not much else

Be interesting to see the level of interest his return garners, and what effect it has on ticket sales.

He was’nt popular at all really, in terms of tickets sold anyway.

I reckon a few more will be interested given his lay off and the situation around it but remember his rematch with Wlad sold fvck all, in his hometown more or less!

It’s ridiculous that he talks about having the Lions share against Joshua. Joshua will sell 70k tickets for Parker.

Sam sexton would be a good comeback easy fight and a british title perfect.

Anyone know how to find out what the Fury/Hammer attendance was?

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 01:23 Be interesting to see the level of interest his return garners, and what effect it has on ticket sales.

He was’nt popular at all really, in terms of tickets sold anyway.

I reckon a few more will be interested given his lay off and the situation around it but remember his rematch with Wlad sold fvck all, in his hometown more or less!

It’s ridiculous that he talks about having the Lions share against Joshua. Joshua will sell 70k tickets for Parker.

55,000 Wlad, total sell out Del 2. Haye sold out in 15 minutes, 20,000....

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 07:23

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 01:23 Be interesting to see the level of interest his return garners, and what effect it has on ticket sales.

He was’nt popular at all really, in terms of tickets sold anyway.

I reckon a few more will be interested given his lay off and the situation around it but remember his rematch with Wlad sold fvck all, in his hometown more or less!

It’s ridiculous that he talks about having the Lions share against Joshua. Joshua will sell 70k tickets for Parker.

55,000 Wlad, total sell out Del 2. Haye sold out in 15 minutes, 20,000....

Wlad got that level of attendance in his fights against Ruslan Chagaev and Eddie Chambers, not to mention David Haye. Let's not pretend that Fury was the draw there.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 07:23

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 01:23 Be interesting to see the level of interest his return garners, and what effect it has on ticket sales.

He was’nt popular at all really, in terms of tickets sold anyway.

I reckon a few more will be interested given his lay off and the situation around it but remember his rematch with Wlad sold fvck all, in his hometown more or less!

It’s ridiculous that he talks about having the Lions share against Joshua. Joshua will sell 70k tickets for Parker.

55,000 Wlad, total sell out Del 2. Haye sold out in 15 minutes, 20,000....

Wlad does big numbers in Germany. Haye does big numbers UK. Tyson doesn't.

Rexob wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 06:54 Sam sexton would be a good comeback easy fight and a british title perfect.

That would be a good fight for Hughie Fury, I'd expect Tyson to be fighting some kind of "world" name. Something similar to when Vitali Klitchsko fought Samuel Peter after a long layoff.

Manuel Charr would be ideal.

If Tyson does return, I honestly think we will have the return of Wlad also.

Most likely somebody not ranked in the top 100 but with a good looking record so 99% of people thinks the opponent has a chance.

outside the top 100 is pretty damn low, esp considering how short on talent the division gets as soon as the lower top 10

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 08:57 outside the top 100 is pretty damn low, esp considering how short on talent the division gets as soon as the lower top 10

How many heavyweight fights do you think there were involving both fighters ranked in the top 10 in the last 12 months? The answer is 4 and Joshua fought two of them.

11 of the top 50 did not fight a top 100 opponent in the last year, so 39 did.

Only 17 heavyweights fought two or more top 100 opponents in the last year.

Only 10 heavyweights beat two or more top 100 opponents in the last year.

It is pretty dire.

Lennox wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 09:22

jamamb wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 08:57 outside the top 100 is pretty damn low, esp considering how short on talent the division gets as soon as the lower top 10

How many heavyweight fights do you think there were involving both fighters ranked in the top 10 in the last 12 months? The answer is 4 and Joshua fought two of them.

11 of the top 50 did not fight a top 100 opponent in the last year, so 39 did.

Only 17 heavyweights fought two or more top 100 opponents in the last year.

Only 10 heavyweights beat two or more top 100 opponents in the last year.

It is pretty dire.

May I ask how Wlad was top 10 when he hadn't fought in over a year and hadn't won in 2 and a half years?
Shouldn't he have been our of the ratings at the time of the Joshua fight?

When a fighter does not fight he is inactive after 12 months and is removed from the independent world boxing rankings which is in line with most sanctioning bodies thinking, however his points are still retained and adjusted/reduced when he is non compliant. When he returns to fight how many points he had will determine his pre-fight ranking.

Depending on his position being compliant is about engaging in fights with rated boxers in a certain time frame. Most common is a fighter within the first 35 must box another in the first 50 within an 18 month period.

In the case of Wladimir Klitschko because he had fights lined up that were cancelled that were not his fault (anothers injury) his ranking was continued. Points were reduced for his inactivity though. Wlad was ranked 1 at the time of the Joshua fight which I don't think anyone would say was wrong.

Knucklez wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 07:42

mickey1975 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 07:23

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 01:23 Be interesting to see the level of interest his return garners, and what effect it has on ticket sales.

He was’nt popular at all really, in terms of tickets sold anyway.

I reckon a few more will be interested given his lay off and the situation around it but remember his rematch with Wlad sold fvck all, in his hometown more or less!

It’s ridiculous that he talks about having the Lions share against Joshua. Joshua will sell 70k tickets for Parker.

55,000 Wlad, total sell out Del 2. Haye sold out in 15 minutes, 20,000....

Wlad got that level of attendance in his fights against Ruslan Chagaev and Eddie Chambers, not to mention David Haye. Let's not pretend that Fury was the draw there.

Also the Chisora 2 fight attendance was heavily driven by BJS vs Eubank Jr. That fight really crossed over and, other than recent Joshua/Froch v Groves fights, was the only time in the last few years where people at work were talking boxing.

He could fight Wilder next if he wishes too - isn't he WBC Champion Emertius?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 15:14 Assuming it's against a non-Brit. How many tickets does it sell?

The longer he takes to come back the less people are gonna care I'd imagine.

Also I'd assume when he comes back his opponent is gonna be below the Top 40. So it probably won't be all that big of a ticket seller, however if he's able to sell big against an opponent like that then he's a bona fide star in the sport.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

I figure it'll still be July before he's even in fighting shape...even then he might not be

I imagine simple curiosity will make him a bigger draw than ever before in his next contest

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 11:33 I imagine simple curiosity will make him a bigger draw than ever before in his next contest

I hope it does. He is a very safety first fighter since he matured but he’s genuinely charismatic ( unlike Floyd & McGregor for instance who have worked on their image to find fans ) and should be more of a draw than he is.

Marketing helps. Joshua probably made more money fighting Whyte than Fury has during the whole of his career!

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 11:38

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 11:33 I imagine simple curiosity will make him a bigger draw than ever before in his next contest

I hope it does. He is a very safety first fighter since he matured but he’s genuinely charismatic ( unlike Floyd & McGregor for instance who have worked on their image to find fans ) and should be more of a draw than he is.

Marketing helps. Joshua probably made more money fighting Whyte than Fury has during the whole of his career!

How should he be more of a draw than he is? He's become a fat tub of sh*t who hasn't fought for years because he's a lazy and pathetic cokehead, and he deserves to be more of a draw?

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 11:38

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Jan 2018, 11:33 I imagine simple curiosity will make him a bigger draw than ever before in his next contest

I hope it does. He is a very safety first fighter since he matured but he’s genuinely charismatic ( unlike Floyd & McGregor for instance who have worked on their image to find fans ) and should be more of a draw than he is.

Marketing helps. Joshua probably made more money fighting Whyte than Fury has during the whole of his career!

Meh, I don’t agree that he should be more of a draw really and so far he hasn’t been.
I still don’t imagine great numbers will buy tickets and if he isn’t on free TV not many will pay for a PPV if Fury v ‘not Joshua’ is top of the bill.

He's never been that popular. People know who he is but that's a very different thing to selling tickets.

I imagine there will be intrigue when he comes back but if he's still a fairly light hitting safety first bore then he'll be back to how he was.

Pretending he's some sort of seller because a lot of people turned up to watch the Wlad fight is a joke. Might as well say Carlos Takam can sell more tickets in Wales than Joe Calzaghe.