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Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 09:28
by Ruthless-RKO
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World Boxing News have learned of an offer being made to ex-world heavyweight title challenger Dereck Chisora for an all-British clash with Olympic silver medallist Joe Joyce this spring.
Who wins this?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 09:43
by Mimmy
Chisora is through.
My though is will Joyce get a world title shot before double figures?
Could he beat Leon Spinks record?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 09:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Mimmy wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 09:43
Chisora is through.
My though is will Joyce get a world title shot before double figures?
Could he beat Leon Spinks record?
He needs to keep fighting name opponents and climb some rankings. I doubt Joshua or Wilder would pick him as a voluntary. How quick can he become mandatory?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:13
by DrDuke
So now Chisora is likely to help Joyce to build a record. A good decision for Joyce's team to take a well-known name early, cause Joe isn't a young prospect.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:19
by sammy95
I think it is far too early for the likes of Chisora, yes he lost to Pulev, Whyte and Kayabel but that was via SD, SD and MD - even if those scores don't truly represent the fights from memory.
A lot of of the current talk is that Whyte is at world level, but I thought Chisora did just enough to win that fight.
Joyce is a talent, and certainly needs to be fast tracked given his WSB and extensive amateur experience, but I think it is hard to see Chisora within his next 1/2 fights. I am also struggling to see a way he can gain a world title shot within 10 fights considering the current HW landscape.
Would love to be proved wrong however.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:24
by deadpan
Very bold matchmaking, which is admirable. Though I can't imagine Del Boy breaking much of a sweat in training for it.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:24
by jamamb
the current hw landscape sucks beyond a few names. if he were actually going to be this fast tracked and fight for the right intercontental, etc belts i could see a shot within 10, at least at that belt charr has.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 10:47
by Taansend
deadpan wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 10:24
Very bold matchmaking, which is admirable. Though I can't imagine Del Boy breaking much of a sweat in training for it.
I agree with the first part but I reckon he'd be well up for it. Surely his pride wouldn't let him be half arsed against a pro novice
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 11:49
by wesshaw1985
Joyce watches the Kabayel vs. Chisora fight and win exactly the same way...
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 12:46
by Coco
He could easily get a world title fight off beating Chisora.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:03
by Ruthless-RKO
sammy95 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 10:19
I think it is far too early for the likes of Chisora, yes he lost to Pulev, Whyte and Kayabel but that was via SD, SD and MD - even if those scores don't truly represent the fights from memory.
A lot of of the current talk is that Whyte is at world level, but I thought Chisora did just enough to win that fight.
Joyce is a talent, and certainly needs to be fast tracked given his WSB and extensive amateur experience, but I think it is hard to see Chisora within his next 1/2 fights. I am also struggling to see a way he can gain a world title shot within 10 fights considering the current HW landscape.
Would love to be proved wrong however.
The Pulev fight was a clear loss. I think he beat Whyte though.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:11
by tigermoth87
I don't rate Joyce. He's a KO ready to happen. Even though Chisora isn't a huge puncher, I think he's skilled and experienced enough to grind out a points win, possibly even a late stoppage. Chisora is underrated, other than Fury schooling him twice and Haye, most of his other defeats have been pretty close, and I had him beating Helenius and Whyte.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 13:43
by boxingknockout
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 13:11
I don't rate Joyce. He's a KO ready to happen. Even though Chisora isn't a huge puncher, I think he's skilled and experienced enough to grind out a points win, possibly even a late stoppage. Chisora is underrated, other than Fury schooling him twice and Haye, most of his other defeats have been pretty close, and I had him beating Helenius and Whyte.
I belief he’s likely to get ironed out fairly soon.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 16:52
by African Monkey
I think Joyce could beat Chisora now, especially after Chisora's last showing. Anyone have any idea who Joyce could be facing in February or has he been taken off that bill?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 17:09
by Ruthless-RKO
African Monkey wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 16:52
I think Joyce could beat Chisora now, especially after Chisora's last showing. Anyone have any idea who Joyce could be facing in February or has he been taken off that bill?
He's on the Bellew-Haye bill for sure. Not sure about Feb.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 19:10
by asdfjkl
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 21:29
by fizzjambo
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
What are you on about?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 22:25
by Taansend
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Which one is the bigger coward? Chisora or Joyce?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 08:54
by danconnollyeire
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Here we go on the 'David Haye shagged my girlfriend so I'm gonna mention him for no reason' nonsense
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 10:18
by skanksta
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 08:54
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Here we go on the 'David Haye shagged my girlfriend so I'm gonna mention him for no reason' nonsense
Excellent.
Can you please post your 'askfjkl decoding device' for the rest of us ? I THINK I've worked out Daffy = David Haye ?
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 11:59
by Verdi
Joyce will walk through Chisora.
IMO he'll beat him faster than anyone has done, except Haye.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:53
by asdfjkl
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 08:54
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Here we go on the 'David Haye shagged my girlfriend so I'm gonna mention him for no reason' nonsense
He's Joe Joyce his manager, but I guess you just don't know much about the boxing world and that's probably the reason why you act like a retard.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:55
by KiwiRider
wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 11:49
Joyce watches the Kabayel vs. Chisora fight and win exactly the same way...
Del learned a valuable lesson from that fight - leave it all in the ring.
He ain't going to make the same mistake against Joyce.
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:57
by Taansend
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 08:54
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Here we go on the 'David Haye shagged my girlfriend so I'm gonna mention him for no reason' nonsense
Re: Joe Joyce vs. Dereck Chisora
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 13:59
by KiwiRider
skanksta wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 10:18
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 08:54
asdfjkl wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 19:10
No guts no glory, hë shows massive balls for picking him, it almost seems like Daffy bribed Chisora again
Here we go on the 'David Haye shagged my girlfriend so I'm gonna mention him for no reason' nonsense
Excellent.
Can you please post your 'askfjkl decoding device' for the rest of us ? I THINK I've worked out Daffy = David Haye ?
I have him on ignore, but every time someone quotes him, I have to expose myself to it. I try not to expose myself these days.