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Former unified super middleweight and light heavyweight champion Andre Ward (32-0, 16 KOs) has made some interested late night tweets that got people talking.

The first tweet, was Ward discussing that he's bulked up.

"Weighed in last night at 199 lbs. All muscle I promise!! I been working," Ward stated.



And then a moment later Ward posted another tweet, letting his followers know that he's working on something 'special.'

"We're working on something special," Ward posted.

"I'm not playing, I am serious [about fighting Joshua]," said Hunter. "I believe he could outbox Anthony Joshua. It would be a waste of time to go to the cruisers [cruiserweights], we should go for it all."

The article is misleading, since Virgil Hunter’s words were actually articulated during June 2017.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 04:54 The article is misleading, since Virgil Hunter’s words were actually articulated during June 2017.

What's written above the picture is not though,

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 05:05

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 04:54 The article is misleading, since Virgil Hunter’s words were actually articulated during June 2017.

What's written above the picture is not though,

Fair enough, but the photo itself isn't a recent one either.

All we have to discuss is one sentence, since the rest of the article relates to old stuff.

Perhaps Andre Ward is looking to fight the winner of Haye-Bellew. I know Eddie Hearn was previously trying to orchestrate a bout between Bellew-Ward. Anthony Joshua has mandatory title defences to perform, so he won;t be able to accept a bout between himself and Ward anytime soon.

I don't expect Ward to make the jump to cruiserweight, since there's no money to be made in that division, but his own physical size suggests that this may indeed be the case.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 05:35 Perhaps Andre Ward is looking to fight the winner of Haye-Bellew. I know Eddie Hearn was previously trying to orchestrate a bout between Bellew-Ward. Anthony Joshua has mandatory title defences to perform, so he won;t be able to accept a bout between himself and Ward anytime soon.

I don't expect Ward to make the jump to cruiserweight, since there's no money to be made in that division, but his own physical size suggests that this may indeed be the case.

Yeh, he would need to fight a small HW.. Not many around these days. Only a select few that weight less than 230 pounds that would be big money fights.

Haye, Bellew, Wilder are the bigger money fights that come to mind. Haye and Bellew would only be big in the UK.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 05:47

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 05:35 Perhaps Andre Ward is looking to fight the winner of Haye-Bellew. I know Eddie Hearn was previously trying to orchestrate a bout between Bellew-Ward. Anthony Joshua has mandatory title defences to perform, so he won;t be able to accept a bout between himself and Ward anytime soon.

I don't expect Ward to make the jump to cruiserweight, since there's no money to be made in that division, but his own physical size suggests that this may indeed be the case.

Yeh, he would need to fight a small HW.. Not many around these days. Only a select few that weight less than 230 pounds that would be big money fights.

Haye, Bellew, Wilder are the bigger money fights that come to mind. Haye and Bellew would only be big in the UK.

Andre Ward possesses the sort of talent and athletic ability to replicate Roy Jones Jr’s feat against someone like Haye, Bellew & Wilder, but I’d prefer to see him stay retired though, since there’s no need to take such a huge risk with his own legacy when he’s already earned a lot of money from the sport.

Ward isn’t Jones, in terms of athletic ability or name.
He’s also nowhere near a big enough name for Joshua to suddenly drop his interest in unifying.

jones was much faster than ward and not so reliant on inside bullying, which wouldnt work as well vs bigger men. i mean if were talking a faded injury riddled haye or bellew id think ward might ge able to do it, but not vs the elite hws.

if he wants a cw belt he should target faded almost 40 levedev

Ward can crush balls of any HW into submission.

i guess he will try to conquer CW, but if he fights Usyk he gets clowned

Ward has said for many years his greatest dream was to be heavyweight champion.
I honestly believe by 2019 he'll be challenging for some type of heavy championship.

Andre Ward should fight the winner of the Cruiserweight WBSS. That way it would be the best Light Heaveyweight vs the best Cruiserweight.

A guy that retires in his prime is talking about making a comeback?

I'm shocked!

So he's taken time off to bulk up on steroids...

Ward isn't big enough nor will his skill set work against the better HW's. He's not going to be able to bully and hold these guys. He doesn't have the speed and quickness Jones had. He doesn't have the power to keep them honest. If he goes to HW, I think it's a bad move for him.

armageto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 13:44 Ward isn't big enough nor will his skill set work against the better HW's. He's not going to be able to bully and hold these guys. He doesn't have the speed and quickness Jones had. He doesn't have the power to keep them honest. If he goes to HW, I think it's a bad move for him.

Good. I never liked Ward. He deserves a little come uppance anyway after those last two shady ass wins.

armageto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 13:44 Ward isn't big enough nor will his skill set work against the better HW's. He's not going to be able to bully and hold these guys. He doesn't have the speed and quickness Jones had. He doesn't have the power to keep them honest. If he goes to HW, I think it's a bad move for him.

He doesn't need to be as quick as Jones. Because he's that much smaller than most HWs, he'll naturally be quicker just like Byrd and Toney were.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:16

armageto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 13:44 Ward isn't big enough nor will his skill set work against the better HW's. He's not going to be able to bully and hold these guys. He doesn't have the speed and quickness Jones had. He doesn't have the power to keep them honest. If he goes to HW, I think it's a bad move for him.

He doesn't need to be as quick as Jones. Because he's that much smaller than most HWs, he'll naturally be quicker just like Byrd and Toney were.

Toney was just BETTER than the guys he beat at Heavyweight. He was fat as a Heavyweight, and didn't enjoy a significant speed advantage than his opponents. He was just a better, more skilled fighter than them.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:30

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:16

armageto wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 13:44 Ward isn't big enough nor will his skill set work against the better HW's. He's not going to be able to bully and hold these guys. He doesn't have the speed and quickness Jones had. He doesn't have the power to keep them honest. If he goes to HW, I think it's a bad move for him.

He doesn't need to be as quick as Jones. Because he's that much smaller than most HWs, he'll naturally be quicker just like Byrd and Toney were.

Toney was just BETTER than the guys he beat at Heavyweight. He was fat as a Heavyweight, and didn't enjoy a significant speed advantage than his opponents. He was just a better, more skilled fighter than them.

And Ward is BETTER than most of the guys at heavyweight. He doesn't have to fight Joshua to get a title.

well soon wilder and joshua will have all the major titles, discounting the secondary title of charr. doubt he beats either.

wards actually a roughhousing physical fighter despite not having major power. he can beat second tier guys but i doubt the very best.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:30

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:16

He doesn't need to be as quick as Jones. Because he's that much smaller than most HWs, he'll naturally be quicker just like Byrd and Toney were.

Toney was just BETTER than the guys he beat at Heavyweight. He was fat as a Heavyweight, and didn't enjoy a significant speed advantage than his opponents. He was just a better, more skilled fighter than them.

And Ward is BETTER than most of the guys at heavyweight. He doesn't have to fight Joshua to get a title.

I'd definitely favor Ward to beat the winner of Oquendo and Charr as I'm sure most every other Boxing fan would. So yeah he could definitely win THAT title pretty much guaranteed.

I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat a Joseph Parker either, but Parker's about to lose his belt to AJ.

if you count that. its not the main wba title that aj has.

kovs right is not wilder or ajs right

jamamb wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:57 if you count that. its not the main wba title that aj has.

I don't count many of the titles. There's only 1 World Champion. Everyone else is a contender with a belt.

Charr and Oquendo aren't even Top 50 so them fighting for a so called "World Title" is an absolute disgrace to the term Champion and the sport of Boxing.

Most of these sanctioning bodies should have zero credibility and be given zero respect from the Boxing community, but people just won't wake up to that fact.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:58

jamamb wrote: ↑24 Jan 2018, 14:57 if you count that. its not the main wba title that aj has.

I don't count many of the titles. There's only 1 World Champion. Everyone else is a contender with a belt.

Charr and Oquendo aren't even Top 50 so them fighting for a so called "World Title" is an absolute disgrace to the term Champion and the sport of Boxing.

Most of these sanctioning bodies should have zero credibility and be given zero respect from the Boxing community, but people just won't wake up to that fact.

Then you don't count the title that Jones one neither right? Lewis was the real world champion.

i think bryd and toney had better styles for fighting bigger men, though sogs very good and maybe he could adapt his. the divisions really weak anyway outside the top 8 or so.