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who wins?

hope arums not fixed on april if lnares needs to wait till may. really good fight

and please this rather than an in house vs ray beltran

Bob mentioned that Raymundo Beltran will very likely become Lomachenko’s next opponent if he emerges victorious from his next outing against Paulus Moses on February 16th.

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:08 hope arums not fixed on april if lnares needs to wait till may. really good fight

and please this rather than an in house vs ray beltran

I find the Ray Beltran fight disgusting. He has nothing for Lomachenko a complete mismatch, like a lot of his bouts.

Tomasino wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:31

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:08 hope arums not fixed on april if lnares needs to wait till may. really good fight

and please this rather than an in house vs ray beltran

I find the Ray Beltran fight disgusting. He has nothing for Lomachenko a complete mismatch, like a lot of his bouts.

If he beats Beltran, he would have captured another WBO title in a third weight class.

We also know that the WBO is an organisation that both Bob Arum and Lomachenko has close ties with.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:47

Tomasino wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:31

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:08 hope arums not fixed on april if lnares needs to wait till may. really good fight

and please this rather than an in house vs ray beltran

I find the Ray Beltran fight disgusting. He has nothing for Lomachenko a complete mismatch, like a lot of his bouts.

If he beats Beltran, he would have captured another WBO title in a third weight class.

We also know that the WBO is an organisation that both Bob Arum and Lomachenko has close ties with.

Master of the obvious

Tomasino wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:47

Tomasino wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:31

I find the Ray Beltran fight disgusting. He has nothing for Lomachenko a complete mismatch, like a lot of his bouts.

If he beats Beltran, he would have captured another WBO title in a third weight class.

We also know that the WBO is an organisation that both Bob Arum and Lomachenko has close ties with.

Master of the obvious

According to The RING and ESPN, Raymundo Beltran is rated fourth and seventh respectively in the 135lbs ratings. He is also promoted by Top Rank, making the fight very easy to make… and he’ll likely become a world champion in the next couple of weeks. It’s an easy fight to sell to the mainstream masses.

On paper, it’s not a mismatch, but we all have to remember that it isn’t easy matchmaking Lomachenko against an opponent that is capable of being competitive.

Whilst the outcome is almost certainly a foregone conclusion, it’s not a “disgusting” matchup and I feel your reaction is a tad over-the-top, because politics, TV network rivalries and finances are often the reason why certain bouts cannot be made.

beltrans an okay fighter, prob top 10 at 135 and likely to have a belt, but imo hes like a jason sosa level of opponent. i just dont find it very interesting at all but i know arum loves in house stuff. linares on the other hands probably the top lightweight aside from garcia, whose taken a break from the division anyway

please linares and not beltran! fight off the bob father this time loma!

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:59 beltrans an okay fighter, prob top 10 at 135 and likely to have a belt, but imo hes like a jason sosa level of opponent. i just dont find it very interesting at all but i know arum loves in house stuff. linares on the other hands probably the top lightweight aside from garcia, whose taken a break from the division anyway

please linares and not beltran! fight off the bob father this time loma!

This is my point. Sosa had no business in there either. Loma will never be a star fighting these fights. I understand it’s difficult to make others, mostly due to Arum being a scum sucking mother fûcking whore.

Please, Beltran knocks out Linares. Beltran is a better fight all around. Look at the poll already. Who thinks Linares has a chance? Lomachenko made his name fighting dudes like Linares in the amateurs. Beltran at least has power.

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 05:08 hope arums not fixed on april if lnares needs to wait till may. really good fight

and please this rather than an in house vs ray beltran

Arum also has May 12th booked along with April 28th.

Bring on the fight !!! Just please no Beltran fight. Robert Easter is still here if Linares fight would not happen in may. Maybe they can still make Lomachenko - Berchelt fight in summer or september (after Berchelt - Roman fight which 100% happen IMO)

hope this is next

linares and manny would be a really good year for loma. much better than last year for sure.

Is there any chance Paulus Moses (40-3, 25 KO's) upsets Beltran in Reno this Friday?

apparently linares side doesnt like the may 12th date

Can you include an option that says Lomachenko outclasses yet another top opponent and makes him quit?

chuck9788 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2018, 18:42 Is there any chance Paulus Moses (40-3, 25 KO's) upsets Beltran in Reno this Friday?

Moses has been around for a while. I think he's approaching 40. He hasn't exactly beaten a slew of world class opponents.

He lost convincingly to Ricky Burns who was gifted with a draw against Beltran.

It doesn't seem likely that Moses can beat Beltran.

You simply have to hope that he puts in a better showing than hopeless Ahmed did against Ramirez in another ESPN/Top Rank championship card a few weeks ago.

Odds makers don't give the Namibian fighter much of a chance either. He's a 20-1 underdog. The same as Povetkin over Price and Khan over Lo Greco.

jamamb wrote: ↑14 Feb 2018, 15:42 apparently linares side doesnt like the may 12th date

Concern that holding a proposed Lomachenko-Linares bout on the 12th (televised by either SHOWTIME or ESPN) will clash with the HBO replay of the May 5 Canelo-Golovkin rematch.