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Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:19**

I think Eubank will be too fast for Groves. I can see Eubank using fast combinations and nifty footwork to win on points.

Just my opinion.

Eubank is 8/13 to win.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:20**

i think eubank wins too but what fights make you think footwork will be his advantage and that hes nifty with it? ive thought hes actually rather plodding and not too great with footwork myself whereas groves is a pretty good mover

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:27**

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:19 I think Eubank will be too fast for Groves. I can see Eubank using fast combinations and nifty footwork to win on points.

Just my opinion.

Eubank is 8/13 to win.

Fast combinations,yes,nifty footwork,can't agree with that to be fair.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:29**

Replace nifty footwork with side to side movement.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:30**

I can't see Eubank winning this fight. Groves hits to hard to be taking shots of. It's all well and good Eubank Jr saying his chin is good but let's see how well it holds up when he is repeatedly getting caught on it. If he's going for a shootout I think he will come out second best

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:39**

Groves is quite a bit bigger than Eubank and should use that beautiful jab he's got to keep Eubank at distance, for a shut out victory on points.
Whether Groves can keep at a high pace Eubank will go at though, its going to be interesting later on in the fight.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:42**

I can see Eubank trying to trap Groves on the ropes as much as possible and firing off those quick combinations with Groves trying to keep it at distance giving him chance to use the excellent jab and long right hand,if Eubank gets his way i say he wears Groves down for a late stoppage,at distance Groves out jabs him,still think Eubank wins it though.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:44**

If I had to box Eubanks main attribute it would be his fitness.
The mans a machine. Under-pressure I think he could potentially still keep a high-workrate.
You could see he questioned his fitness over 12 against BJS and let him dictate the beginning of the fight with his silky skills. He no longer has those doubts.
Workrate can get you along way in top tier boxing. Any round that Groves Takes off Eubank will outwork him.
The key for Groves is stopping the workrate. His key advantage for this is power and respect.
He needs to make Eubank feel the meaty jab early and the power of the backhand. If he can make Eubank second guess throwing punches it’s half of the battle won.
Once the power has been established he can cause damage without throwing a punch. Groves controls distance well. Just standing and edging into range against Eubank could mentally tire him. Eubank doesn’t have the footwork to pivot around the jab so Groves edging forward throws Eubank off his game.
Intriguing in so many ways tactically.

In a nutshell to win

Groves- High Ring IQ, accurate power shots.

Eubank- Chin and workrate

On a sidenote- anyone remember the show Superstars? Love to see Eubank do the gym challenges.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:51**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:44 If I had to box Eubanks main attribute it would be his fitness.
The mans a machine. Under-pressure I think he could potentially still keep a high-workrate.
You could see he questioned his fitness over 12 against BJS and let him dictate the beginning of the fight with his silky skills. He no longer has those doubts.
Workrate can get you along way in top tier boxing. Any round that Groves Takes off Eubank will outwork him.
The key for Groves is stopping the workrate. His key advantage for this is power and respect.
He needs to make Eubank feel the meaty jab early and the power of the backhand. If he can make Eubank second guess throwing punches it’s half of the battle won.
Once the power has been established he can cause damage without throwing a punch. Groves controls distance well. Just standing and edging into range against Eubank could mentally tire him. Eubank doesn’t have the footwork to pivot around the jab so Groves edging forward throws Eubank off his game.
Intriguing in so many ways tactically.

In a nutshell to win

Groves- High Ring IQ, accurate power shots.

Eubank- Chin and workrate

On a sidenote- anyone remember the show Superstars? Love to see Eubank do the gym challenges.

Good post,if Groves cracks him with a couple early on and they bounce off he's in a whole world of trouble,Groves will then find himself pinned on the ropes and overwhelmed i think.Can't wait for this,my first live show since Groves v Froch 1

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:56**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:44 On a sidenote- anyone remember the show Superstars? Love to see Eubank do the gym challenges.

He wouldn't beat Brian Jacks

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 17:58**

dr_devious wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:56
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:44 On a sidenote- anyone remember the show Superstars? Love to see Eubank do the gym challenges.
He wouldn't beat Brian Jacks

But Jacks didn’t grow up entrenched in the warriors code.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 18:08**

I just don't think Groves has the durability. I see him getting involved in exchanges and getting hit and hurt. He gets hit frequently as it is. Jack landed quite a bit, dropped him twice in the first and landed throughout. Froch landed, Anderson landed, Smith landed and in many other fights he's been hit. He is my favourite fighter to watch but I'm taking Eubanks chin and toughness on trust, given the toughness Eubank Sr. displayed. I think Eubank wins by stoppage.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 18:09**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:58
dr_devious wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:56
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:44 On a sidenote- anyone remember the show Superstars? Love to see Eubank do the gym challenges.
He wouldn't beat Brian Jacks
But Jacks didn’t grow up entrenched in the warriors code.

And he was allowed to use special socks for the squat thrusts!

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 18:32**

I do wonder whether Groves will be targeting the body here - Eubank does seem to have a solid chin, so a body shot like the one he landed on Cox might be his best chance of a stoppage. If nothing else, it should take a toll on Eubank’s impressive engine.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 18:38**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 18:08 I just don't think Groves has the durability. I see him getting involved in exchanges and getting hit and hurt. He gets hit frequently as it is. Jack landed quite a bit, dropped him twice in the first and landed throughout. Froch landed, Anderson landed, Smith landed and in many other fights he's been hit. He is my favourite fighter to watch but I'm taking Eubanks chin and toughness on trust, given the toughness Eubank Sr. displayed. I think Eubank wins by stoppage.

That's my call but I'm not confident. What I am confident in though is that this is one of the best fights in British boxing.

Posted: **07 Feb 2018, 19:37**

I think Groves teaches Eubank a lesson for the first 4 rounds but because Eubank has a good chin and stamina he'll ride the storm. Then Groves starts to tire and by round 6 Eubank starts to get on top. I think Eubank stops Groves (ref jumps in) around round 10 simply because Groves runs out of stamina.

It's an excellent matchup though. A proper all British fight.

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 00:29**

bigjack wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:51 Can't wait for this,my first live show since Groves v Froch 1

Cripes Jack, I'm not half jelous mate. This could be fight of the year man!

Are you a big Groves fan, or it just worked out your last two fights have starred the sainted one?

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 01:27**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 18:08 I just don't think Groves has the durability. I see him getting involved in exchanges and getting hit and hurt. He gets hit frequently as it is. Jack landed quite a bit, dropped him twice in the first and landed throughout. Froch landed, Anderson landed, Smith landed and in many other fights he's been hit. He is my favourite fighter to watch but I'm taking Eubanks chin and toughness on trust, given the toughness Eubank Sr. displayed. I think Eubank wins by stoppage.

The fact Groves went the distance against Jack despite that start while also going nip and tuck with Froch would suggest he actually is far more durable than many are implying. You also need to factor in that Eubanks isn't exactly a banger and certainly not in the league of Froch and Jack, who were both huge SW's.
For me, as I've said before, Groves' jab is the key to this fight - if he establishes it early, it prevents Eubanks' workrate while also setting up ample opportunities for him to land his own big right hand.
I still definitely favour Groves - bigger, hits harder, more experienced and better ringcraft.

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 01:34**

Deserter wrote: ↑08 Feb 2018, 01:27
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 18:08 I just don't think Groves has the durability. I see him getting involved in exchanges and getting hit and hurt. He gets hit frequently as it is. Jack landed quite a bit, dropped him twice in the first and landed throughout. Froch landed, Anderson landed, Smith landed and in many other fights he's been hit. He is my favourite fighter to watch but I'm taking Eubanks chin and toughness on trust, given the toughness Eubank Sr. displayed. I think Eubank wins by stoppage.
The fact Groves went the distance against Jack despite that start while also going nip and tuck with Froch would suggest he actually is far more durable than many are implying. You also need to factor in that Eubanks isn't exactly a banger and certainly not in the league of Froch and Jack, who were both huge SW's.
For me, as I've said before, Groves' jab is the key to this fight - if he establishes it early, it prevents Eubanks' workrate while also setting up ample opportunities for him to land his own big right hand.
I still definitely favour Groves - bigger, hits harder, more experienced and better ringcraft.

I see Groves establishing the jab and Eubank fighting off the backfoot initially. And I think Groves definitely can control the fight with the jab. If Groves had the toughness of a Froch I'd pick him to win but to Eubanks credit when he was behind vs Saunders he upped the tempo and brought a lot of pressure. Groves isn't as crafty as Saunders, who went into survival mode for me. Eubank was pouring it on and coming forward non stop. I don't think Groves can take that and I'm thinking that Eubank can walk through the shots. I know Eubank Sr. would taken everything Groves had to offer.

Fun Fact - Groves is only 1 year older than Eubank

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 02:31**

tbh i think the saunders fight was super close and maybe even couldve gone to eubank. seems the narrative is a lot of ppl talking like bjs boxed his head off but i think pretty much the entire last half of that fight couldve gone to eubank and he was winning rounds way bigger than bjs did. also there was literally like a few punches to split them in the early rounds. it wasnt a bjs-lemieux level of outboxing.

if that final card had gone to eubank rather than bjs i wouldnt have considered it a robbery at all. also keep in mind that eubank was totally green at the time and had fought no one at all and hadnt been many rounds. that fight showed his natural talent. its really impressive that he could do that well vs a really good boxer who was vastly vaslty more experienced

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 03:28**

jamamb wrote: ↑08 Feb 2018, 02:31 tbh i think the saunders fight was super close and maybe even couldve gone to eubank. seems the narrative is a lot of ppl talking like bjs boxed his head off but i think pretty much the entire last half of that fight couldve gone to eubank and he was winning rounds way bigger than bjs did. also there was literally like a few punches to split them in the early rounds. it wasnt a bjs-lemieux level of outboxing.

if that final card had gone to eubank rather than bjs i wouldnt have considered it a robbery at all. also keep in mind that eubank was totally green at the time and had fought no one at all and hadnt been many rounds. that fight showed his natural talent. its really impressive that he could do that well vs a really good boxer who was vastly vaslty more experienced

bjs tired after 6, so the rest of the fight should be viewed with that in mind.
im fed up hearing about eubanks great stamina and workrate. he hasnt proved it yet as he has not gone 12 hard rounds with anyone except an unfit bjs and an ancient abraham....so how do we know what he has left at the end of 10, 11, 12 rounds in a gruelling fight with a bigger man.

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 03:38**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Feb 2018, 00:29
bigjack wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 17:51 Can't wait for this,my first live show since Groves v Froch 1
Cripes Jack, I'm not half jelous mate. This could be fight of the year man!

Are you a big Groves fan, or it just worked out your last two fights have starred the sainted one?

I'm a fan of both to be honest but i do feel Groves is slightly past his best now,we'll find out soon.

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 04:32**

If this were the Groves of 4 years ago this wouldn't even be a contest IMO. He has faded and will likely end up in a tear up at some point. Still think he'll win though

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 04:50**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Feb 2018, 18:08 I just don't think Groves has the durability. I see him getting involved in exchanges and getting hit and hurt. He gets hit frequently as it is. Jack landed quite a bit, dropped him twice in the first and landed throughout. Froch landed, Anderson landed, Smith landed and in many other fights he's been hit. He is my favourite fighter to watch but I'm taking Eubanks chin and toughness on trust, given the toughness Eubank Sr. displayed. I think Eubank wins by stoppage.

Twice?

Posted: **08 Feb 2018, 05:23**

People are overlooking the size of Groves. He will be a far bigger man on the night.

Eubank is really a middleweight whereas Groves could comfortably fight at light heavy.

Think Groves out points him at distance.

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