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Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:27
by VG_Addict
Who are/were some fighters who just can't take a punch?

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:35
by gilgamesh
Jimmy Thunder had the not so affectionate nickname "The Chinless Adonis"

Seth Mitchell obviously couldn't take a shot too well at all.

I'm trying to think of other guys. Some guys it's more a combination of their stamina, and just leaky defense, but there's some guys that you can wobble with even glancing blows those are the guys I'd consider to be true "Glass jaw" type guys. Anybody can be knocked out, but if you can wobbled or dropped by even light shots then you got a glass jaw my friend.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:35
by SenorPipino
Amir Khan is the only one who comes to mind at the moment.

Oh, his countryman David Price.

Oh wait, their other countryman, Audley Harrison had a doozy of a China Chin.

I'm not picking on Brits. They just quickly come to mind.

I think Roy Jones had one. But he hid it well during his prime.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:44
by Lenny Cravats
Well, he's significantly shopworn --and possibly (and thankfully) retired, but I can't think of a professional fighter that has been on the mat more times than Danny Williams.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:46
by gilgamesh
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:44 Well, he's significantly shopworn --and possibly (and thankfully) retired, but I can't think of a professional fighter that has been on the mat more times than Danny Williams.
Yeah. He showed an awful lot of heart a ton of times, and kept on going, but he sure wasn't too hard to hurt was he? :lol:

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:50
by gilgamesh
Bruce Seldon was knocked out in 7 of his 8 fights, and went down EXTREMELY easy against Tyson. To the point that you could say he just collapsed out of fear which is probably true.

He also went down in 1 to Bowe.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:51
by Lenny Cravats
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:46
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:44 Well, he's significantly shopworn --and possibly (and thankfully) retired, but I can't think of a professional fighter that has been on the mat more times than Danny Williams.
Yeah. He showed an awful lot of heart a ton of times, and kept on going, but he sure wasn't too hard to hurt was he? :lol:
His one-armed KO of Mark Potter - and being in too much pain to celebrate, was as much heart as you can ever see in a ring.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:51
by Lenny Cravats
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:50 Bruce Seldon was knocked out in 7 of his 8 fights, and went down EXTREMELY easy against Tyson. To the point that you could say he just collapsed out of fear which is probably true.

He also went down in 1 to Bowe.
What's the big Canadian lad's name? The one who wins or loses by KO, and normally quickly?

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53
by jamamb
oleg maskaev

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53
by siablo14
Wladimir Klitschko?
Lennox Lewis?

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:56
by jamamb
enzo maccarenlli

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 15:58
by Lenny Cravats
Of course you have to wheel out the boxing forum stuff of legend (and probably fictitious) Eric Crumble out in threads like this.

With no footage available of him fighting, and no one around that saw him first hand, he's an anti-Greb of sorts.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 16:28
by SenorPipino
I almost hesitate to say it because it's another Brit, but Herbie Hide should be high on any list of glass jaws.

Not as bad as Audley's, but he was in the canvas plenty. Bowe bounced him around repeatedly. Klitschko knocked him down easily and early.

Sometimes I think Victor Ortiz has a China chin. Other times I think it's more that he lacks true heart and an ability to deal with adversity.

I don't think that Alexander will threaten that chin in any way next week. I can't recall offhand the last time he knocked anyone out.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 16:29
by gilgamesh
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:58 Of course you have to wheel out the boxing forum stuff of legend (and probably fictitious) Eric Crumble out in threads like this.

With no footage available of him fighting, and no one around that saw him first hand, he's an anti-Greb of sorts.
Yeah a record like that suggests to me that he never gave a sincere effort in any of his fights. He just showed up to take a shot or two, fall down and cash a check.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 16:29
by gilgamesh
siablo14 wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53 Wladimir Klitschko?
Lennox Lewis?
They don't got the sturdiest chins in the world, but they ain't glass.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 16:31
by gilgamesh
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:51
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:50 Bruce Seldon was knocked out in 7 of his 8 fights, and went down EXTREMELY easy against Tyson. To the point that you could say he just collapsed out of fear which is probably true.

He also went down in 1 to Bowe.
What's the big Canadian lad's name? The one who wins or loses by KO, and normally quickly?
You talking about Razor Ruddock I suppose? I figure his Tyson fights save him from the Glass jaw moniker

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:01
by siablo14
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 16:31
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:51
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:50 Bruce Seldon was knocked out in 7 of his 8 fights, and went down EXTREMELY easy against Tyson. To the point that you could say he just collapsed out of fear which is probably true.

He also went down in 1 to Bowe.
What's the big Canadian lad's name? The one who wins or loses by KO, and normally quickly?
You talking about Razor Ruddock I suppose? I figure his Tyson fights save him from the Glass jaw moniker
Razor was Jamaican.
Lennox is Jamaican too.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:26
by ValMar
siablo14 wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53 Wladimir Klitschko?
Lennox Lewis?
No, definitely.
Wlad : 7/10
Lennox : 8/10
Let us say : decent and very decent. No less, no more.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:29
by jamamb
no f@cking way wlad had a 7/10 chin

he obvioulsy was greatly bothered by getting hit and was dropped like 15x in his career

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:35
by ValMar
jamamb wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 17:29 no f@cking way wlad had a 7/10 chin

he obvioulsy was greatly bothered by getting hit and was dropped like 15x in his career
He had faced a lot of powerful punchers in his career. I feel that he deserved 7/10, and his brother has been 10/10.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:36
by Lenny Cravats
siablo14 wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 17:01
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 16:31
Lenny Cravats wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:51

What's the big Canadian lad's name? The one who wins or loses by KO, and normally quickly?
You talking about Razor Ruddock I suppose? I figure his Tyson fights save him from the Glass jaw moniker
Razor was Jamaican.
Lennox is Jamaican too.
I meant Tye Fields.... who, having checked is not Canadian.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 17:07
by Best Coast
ValMar wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 17:26
siablo14 wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53 Wladimir Klitschko?
Lennox Lewis?
No, definitely.
Wlad : 7/10
Lennox : 8/10
Let us say : decent and very decent. No less, no more.
Beg to differ. I give Lennox 7/10 and Wlad 5/10

In Lennox's farewell fight against Vitali, Lewis settled some doubts by absorbing some heavy shots from one of the premier HW punchers of his era.

Wlad on the other hand needed major stylistic changes to HIDE his weak chin. Without Manny Steward's major stylistic adjustments Wlad would have ended his career in disaster.

You can trace the major style-change to his first Samuel Peter bout. After the humiliating KO loss to Lamon Brewster, Steward changed Wlad's emphasis to clutching, grabbing, tying up when he faced heavy hitters to avoid a repeat of the humiliating KOs to Brewster, Sanders & Puritty.

Watch this video of Wlad-Peter I and videos of Wlad pre-Samuel Peter and you cant help but see major stylistic adjustments to hide his glass jaw. Manny Steward SAVED WLAD's CAREER.
:OhYes:






Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 17:23
by Ilya Muromets
jamamb wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:53 oleg maskaev

Maskaev was good too. He sure had Rahman's number. He wound up 39-7 with 28 ko's...and all seven of his losses were by KO.

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 17:25
by jamamb
yes his first ko of rahman was one of the best ive seen. steve smoger was ringside and got nailed with a chair from the raging audience :oo

Re: Glass jaws.

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 18:46
by ValMar
Active boxers : Khan & Price. Rigondaux might be half-glassy, Gamboa and Donaire, too.............