Eubank Jnr looks so small here compared to Groves. The difference on fight night is going to be too significant for Eubank to overcome in my view. Can see him getting his head jabbed off all night and then possibly stopped late on.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 13:33
by jamamb
#selfbelief
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 13:39
by Stuarty
Yeah they look a couple of weight classes apart looking at that footage!
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 16:56
by coneye
You can't take to much from a couple of minuite training video , BUT if i was to take anything , i would watch how both guys look different on pads , Eubank , his pad man is finding the distance and chris , peppers in the speed and power , , all good when your opponent is like your pad man and stands in front of you , Chris is telagraphing and not to well balanced ,.
Goerge he's more natural , it flows and he gets his correct distance with no help from Shane , his punches are relaxed and sharp , his balance is poised for movement and defence ,
Goerge a lot easier than most think . , George is gonna put subtle body pressure on Chris ,forcing him to run or throw , and fight middle distance , beating Eubank to the punch , with the better foot movement , and good straight left , , Remember a 2 inch foot movement can give you 6 inches of reach , if you have decent footwork , Eubank does'nt , George does .
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 17:18
by Counter-puncher
coneye wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 16:56
You can't take to much from a couple of minuite training video , BUT if i was to take anything , i would watch how both guys look different on pads , Eubank , his pad man is finding the distance and chris , peppers in the speed and power , , all good when your opponent is like your pad man and stands in front of you , Chris is telagraphing and not to well balanced ,.
Goerge he's more natural , it flows and he gets his correct distance with no help from Shane , his punches are relaxed and sharp , his balance is poised for movement and defence ,
Goerge a lot easier than most think . , George is gonna put subtle body pressure on Chris ,forcing him to run or throw , and fight middle distance , beating Eubank to the punch , with the better foot movement , and good straight left , , Remember a 2 inch foot movement can give you 6 inches of reach , if you have decent footwork , Eubank does'nt , George does .
you describe things like this much better than I can
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 18:11
by lillywhite14
coneye wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 16:56
You can't take to much from a couple of minuite training video , BUT if i was to take anything , i would watch how both guys look different on pads , Eubank , his pad man is finding the distance and chris , peppers in the speed and power , , all good when your opponent is like your pad man and stands in front of you , Chris is telagraphing and not to well balanced ,.
Goerge he's more natural , it flows and he gets his correct distance with no help from Shane , his punches are relaxed and sharp , his balance is poised for movement and defence ,
Goerge a lot easier than most think . , George is gonna put subtle body pressure on Chris ,forcing him to run or throw , and fight middle distance , beating Eubank to the punch , with the better foot movement , and good straight left , , Remember a 2 inch foot movement can give you 6 inches of reach , if you have decent footwork , Eubank does'nt , George does .
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 19:16
by Twinkle Toes
Groves is vulnerable but he is far superior than Eubank in the boxing skill department,
It is an intriguing fight for sure, and I am a big fan of Eubank but at this weight I think he's biting off more than he can chew, and should have stayed down at middleweight. Groves is huge at this weight, and his big fight experience makes Eubank look like a small fish in deep water.
Groves has excellent balance, he's very accurate and can bang. I can't help but feel he's going to clock Eubank cold because his defense is diabolical.
Eubank is great when he is on top and looks a million dollars, I can't see that happeeing against Groves. If it does he's the real deal for sure.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 13 Feb 2018, 19:26
by Nightmare Roy
He looks like a LMW in there, more I see, more I think it's going to be an easy night for Groves.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 02:37
by nitro5912
I thought eubanks feet were very slow when moving compared to groves who moves very quickly around after a combo.
Also i though jnr was leaving his chin very exposed, i know it is only pad work but isn't the pads the place to practice at your flaws aswell as the speed.
Also i though jnr was leaving his chin very exposed, i know it is only pad work but isn't the pads the place to practice at your flaws aswell as the speed.
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Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 05:45
by coneye
nitro5912 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2018, 02:37
I thought eubanks feet were very slow when moving compared to groves who moves very quickly around after a combo.
Also i though jnr was leaving his chin very exposed, i know it is only pad work but isn't the pads the place to practice at your flaws aswell as the speed.
100 per cent , for me pads is second to sparring in the gym , its where you get to throw punches and move at the same time , I,m not gonna say anyone is right or wrong , but quite often i see a trainer just stood with his hands wide apart and getting clobbered with body shots after he,s called them , the boxer just really could be on the heavy bag . Personaly i used to and still do love taking laads on padwork , but they ha ve to punch moving sideways backwards and forwards , and most importanly find tthere own distance ,, .like i would say your opponent is,nt gonna stand and let you hit him , so cut me off and tthrow the combo , its just as much about the feet as the hands, if its about the hands like we see with Eubank , he could just work the heavy bag ,, notice shane moving and Groves using his feet to come in and spin off , watching two different sesions , 1 probably takes nothing to the bank the other gets the benefit ,, Fitness wise you will get more out of punchi g and moving than heavy bag , helps with the breathin as well ,, one thing i learnt over the years a good padman is a good asset to a camp
nitro5912 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2018, 02:37
I thought eubanks feet were very slow when moving compared to groves who moves very quickly around after a combo.
Also i though jnr was leaving his chin very exposed, i know it is only pad work but isn't the pads the place to practice at your flaws aswell as the speed.
100 per cent , for me pads is second to sparring in the gym , its where you get to throw punches and move at the same time , I,m not gonna say anyone is right or wrong , but quite often i see a trainer just stood with his hands wide apart and getting clobbered with body shots after he,s called them , the boxer just really could be on the heavy bag . Personaly i used to and still do love taking laads on padwork , but they ha ve to punch moving sideways backwards and forwards , and most importanly find tthere own distance ,, .like i would say your opponent is,nt gonna stand and let you hit him , so cut me off and tthrow the combo , its just as much about the feet as the hands, if its about the hands like we see with Eubank , he could just work the heavy bag ,, notice shane moving and Groves using his feet to come in and spin off , watching two different sesions , 1 probably takes nothing to the bank the other gets the benefit ,, Fitness wise you will get more out of punchi g and moving than heavy bag , helps with the breathin as well ,, one thing i learnt over the years a good padman is a good asset to a camp
This is where Eubank is going to fall down in this fight in my view. He's got no trainer and he clearly doesn't listen to anything his corner says. Eubank Snr just struts around like a demented peacock posing in front of the cameras and I'm not exactly sure what Ronnie Davies does as I remember one fight (can't remember which - may have been the Spike O'Sullivan one) where Davies was trying to impart some advice about Eubank not just plodding forward and taking big shots and Eubank just told him to shut up.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 06:07
by TopGun
coneye wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 16:56
You can't take to much from a couple of minuite training video , BUT if i was to take anything , i would watch how both guys look different on pads , Eubank , his pad man is finding the distance and chris , peppers in the speed and power , , all good when your opponent is like your pad man and stands in front of you , Chris is telagraphing and not to well balanced ,.
Goerge he's more natural , it flows and he gets his correct distance with no help from Shane , his punches are relaxed and sharp , his balance is poised for movement and defence ,
Goerge a lot easier than most think . , George is gonna put subtle body pressure on Chris ,forcing him to run or throw , and fight middle distance , beating Eubank to the punch , with the better foot movement , and good straight left , , Remember a 2 inch foot movement can give you 6 inches of reach , if you have decent footwork , Eubank does'nt , George does .
Nice post.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 06:10
by TopGun
I can understand both sides cases of why one of them could win, that is why, for me, this is arguably the most anticipated fight of 2018 for me. Looking forward to it!
Can Eubank step up and make a name for himself?
Is George too experienced and technically better?
Will Eubanks work rate be enough for a points win?
Has George got the stamina for 12 rounds?
So many questions to be answered this weekend.......cannot wait!
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 10:01
by Coco
Styles make fights and I can't see this being less than a good one with the potential of being spectacular, here's hoping!
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 10:05
by Coco
And I don't think Groves gets the credit he deserves as a genuine puncher.
Re: Groves v Eubank Jnr open workout footage
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 11:54
by danconnollyeire
Coco wrote: ↑14 Feb 2018, 10:05
And I don't think Groves gets the credit he deserves as a genuine puncher.
Amen. If Eubank does stop Groves it'll be a dozen or so unanswered shots. Groves can do it with a single punch
you describe things like this much better than I can