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Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 04:09
by Ruthless-RKO
An ESPN.com report early Wednesday morning stated that promoters for Spence, the unbeaten IBF welterweight champion, and mandatory challenger Carlos Ocampo have reached an agreement for them to fight that night. Showtime will televise the Spence-Ocampo match from an undetermined venue in the Dallas area.
https://www.BS.com/errol-spenc ... 16--125723
Ocampo will fight outside of Mexico for the first time when he travels to the Dallas area to challenge Spence. He last fought November 11, when Ocampo stopped fellow Mexican Dario Ferman (14-4, 11 KOs) in the seventh round in Chihuahua, Mexico.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 05:01
by Cent0089
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 05:07
by Cent0089
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 05:10
by Ruthless-RKO
He should make the most of making the 147 limit. But only to a point where others will fight him. TBH, this is a mandatory. IBF are known for crap mandatories (bar Spence last year).. Once Ocampo's out of the way. I think Spence should be allowed 2 voluntary fights.. make one a unification hopefully.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 08:14
by Badhusker
Maybe Spence should have just vacated his belt so he could get ranked by the other ABC's, and force them to fight him as a mandatory.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 12:37
by jewboypgh
Ocampo? Who is that? Never heard of him. Is that the short order fry cook at IHOP?
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 23:27
by Evander
Spence is starting to take the path of least resistance.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:06
by SenorPipino
Evander wrote: ↑28 Feb 2018, 23:27
Spence is starting to take the path of least resistance.
It's a mandatory. Most mandatories suck. Short of vacating the IBF crown, Spence has little choice.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:09
by Evander
Seen Ocampo's style and what Spence could do with it ?
He could drag out a win from 3-9 easily.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:17
by jamamb
spences last 2 were brook and peterson which is solid. ocampo is a mandatory. spence isnt someone who should yet be put in the looking for an easy route box
seen ocampo and not impressed at all, hell get crushed. ocampo vs ponomarov actually wouldve been a very well matched fight
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:21
by Evander
Goal is to be Number 1 at 147 right ?
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:33
by gilgamesh
Considering the inactivity of all the other Welterweights I'm not gonna fault Spence for being active, and satisfying a mandatory. Hopefully he gets Garcia, Porter or Thurman soon after.
I'd love to see Yordenis Ugas get a shot at a big fight too.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:41
by Evander
Not going for it either is he
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:44
by Evander
It's a summer stand off at Welterweight.
No ones going to fight one another until Autumn.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:46
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:41
Not going for it either is he
He's still very young, and has only just gotten to the top. If he's fighting one of the top names by Summer 2019 I'd say he's still doing fine. It's rare to see any fighter come along, and get major fight after major fight. Usually it only happens to guys that keep losing the big one or guys that are just extremely special and are trying to establish their legacy.
Lomachenko for instance having taken on the level of guys he's taken on so early in his Pro career. Oleksandr Usyk is definitely taking the big fights to establish himself as a great too.
Lots of guys have talent, but very few keep getting major fights consecutively. Especially in the modern era, but even in past eras it was often a struggle to always get the biggest fights.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:49
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:46
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:41
Not going for it either is he
He's still very young, and has only just gotten to the top. If he's fighting one of the top names by Summer 2019 I'd say he's still doing fine. It's rare to see any fighter come along, and get major fight after major fight. Usually it only happens to guys that keep losing the big one or guys that are just extremely special and are trying to establish their legacy.
Lomachenko for instance having taken on the level of guys he's taken on so early in his Pro career. Oleksandr Usyk is definitely taking the big fights to establish himself as a great too.
Lots of guys have talent, but very few keep getting major fights consecutively. Especially in the modern era, but even in past eras it was often a struggle to always get the biggest fights.
Biggest fight at 147
Thurman v Spence ... agree disagree ?
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:51
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:49
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:46
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:41
Not going for it either is he
He's still very young, and has only just gotten to the top. If he's fighting one of the top names by Summer 2019 I'd say he's still doing fine. It's rare to see any fighter come along, and get major fight after major fight. Usually it only happens to guys that keep losing the big one or guys that are just extremely special and are trying to establish their legacy.
Lomachenko for instance having taken on the level of guys he's taken on so early in his Pro career. Oleksandr Usyk is definitely taking the big fights to establish himself as a great too.
Lots of guys have talent, but very few keep getting major fights consecutively. Especially in the modern era, but even in past eras it was often a struggle to always get the biggest fights.
Biggest fight at 147
Thurman v Spence ... agree disagree ?
No doubt about it
Give Crawford a year or so to establish himself at the weight and Crawford vs Spence or Thurman becomes big business as well
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:52
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:51
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:49
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:46
He's still very young, and has only just gotten to the top. If he's fighting one of the top names by Summer 2019 I'd say he's still doing fine. It's rare to see any fighter come along, and get major fight after major fight. Usually it only happens to guys that keep losing the big one or guys that are just extremely special and are trying to establish their legacy.
Lomachenko for instance having taken on the level of guys he's taken on so early in his Pro career. Oleksandr Usyk is definitely taking the big fights to establish himself as a great too.
Lots of guys have talent, but very few keep getting major fights consecutively. Especially in the modern era, but even in past eras it was often a struggle to always get the biggest fights.
Biggest fight at 147
Thurman v Spence ... agree disagree ?
No doubt about it
Won't happen with Spence taking these types of fights will it ?
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:55
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:52
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:51
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:49
Biggest fight at 147
Thurman v Spence ... agree disagree ?
No doubt about it
Won't happen with Spence taking these types of fights will it ?
Why wouldn't it? Thurman fought Luis Collazo and Leonard Bundu...didn't keep him from getting a big fight.
Spence's wins over Brook and Peterson already give his resume name value. This one is just to keep the IBF off his back, and keep him busy.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 00:59
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:55
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:52
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:51
No doubt about it
Won't happen with Spence taking these types of fights will it ?
Why wouldn't it? Thurman fought Luis Collazo and Leonard Bundu...didn't keep him from getting a big fight.
Spence's wins over Brook and Peterson already give his resume name value. This one is just to keep the IBF off his back, and keep him busy.
No they don't.
Brook got wiped out by GGG previously.
Peterson was old.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 01:04
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:59
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:55
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:52
Won't happen with Spence taking these types of fights will it ?
Why wouldn't it? Thurman fought Luis Collazo and Leonard Bundu...didn't keep him from getting a big fight.
Spence's wins over Brook and Peterson already give his resume name value. This one is just to keep the IBF off his back, and keep him busy.
No they don't.
Brook got wiped out by GGG previously.
Peterson was old.
That's one loss against a Middleweight. Brook was still unbeaten as a Welterweight, and 1 loss doesn't make you washed up or a win over you meaningless.
I think Peterson is close to as good as he ever was. He's never been one of the cream of the crop necessarily, but he's long been a solid contender, and that was still the case when he fought Spence.
I'm not saying Spence's resume is amazing or anything, but it's respectable.
I can't imagine he won't be fighting Garcia, Porter, Thurman or someone like that at some point in the next year following the Ocampo fight.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 01:28
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 01:04
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:59
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:55
Why wouldn't it? Thurman fought Luis Collazo and Leonard Bundu...didn't keep him from getting a big fight.
Spence's wins over Brook and Peterson already give his resume name value. This one is just to keep the IBF off his back, and keep him busy.
No they don't.
Brook got wiped out by GGG previously.
Peterson was old.
I can't imagine he won't be fighting Garcia, Porter, Thurman
I can.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 11:59
by SenorPipino
Well he won't if those 3 avoid fighting him, which right now seems to be the direction they're heading.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 12:02
by ElJefe
Makes sense to get this fight out of the way early to be fair. The other top names will use every excuse in the book to avoid him over the next couple of years. The last thing he needs to do is drop a belt and give them the chance to say he brings nothing to the table without a title. Just keep knocking over whoever will step in with him and put as much pressure on Thurman, Garcia, Porter etc to fight him.
Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018
Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 13:57
by ValMar
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:51
Evander wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:49
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Mar 2018, 00:46
He's still very young, and has only just gotten to the top. If he's fighting one of the top names by Summer 2019 I'd say he's still doing fine. It's rare to see any fighter come along, and get major fight after major fight. Usually it only happens to guys that keep losing the big one or guys that are just extremely special and are trying to establish their legacy.
Lomachenko for instance having taken on the level of guys he's taken on so early in his Pro career. Oleksandr Usyk is definitely taking the big fights to establish himself as a great too.
Lots of guys have talent, but very few keep getting major fights consecutively. Especially in the modern era, but even in past eras it was often a struggle to always get the biggest fights.
Biggest fight at 147
Thurman v Spence ... agree disagree ?
No doubt about it
Give Crawford a year or so to establish himself at the weight and Crawford vs Spence or Thurman becomes big business as well
Yes !
