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who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:11
by jamamb
candidates:

kovalev
bivol
stevnson
jack
hooper
beterbiev
browne
gvozvdyk
alvarez

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:14
by gilgamesh
Kovalev at the moment, but possibly Bivol. Bivol definitely shows a lot of promise, and has performed exceptionally well up to this point.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:17
by jamamb
kovalev still looks good to me but hes getting to the ages where some less proven guys may actually be better and have more left, but just havent been able to show it at the highest level yet

prime 4 prime i was most impressed by adonis but the question is right now

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:20
by Loki
Kovalev and Stevenson are almost done.

Beterbiev and Bivol are the future.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:21
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:17 kovalev still looks good to me but hes getting to the ages where some less proven guys may actually be better and have more left, but just havent been able to show it at the highest level yet

prime 4 prime i was most impressed by adonis but the question is right now
Kovalev has performed better than Adonis has ever shown more than once.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:26
by ValMar
It is a very difficult question, almost impossible to answer.............Hooper ?

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:26
by jamamb
Loki wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:20 Kovalev and Stevenson are almost done.

Beterbiev and Bivol are the future.
not as confident in beterbiev as bivol. beterbiev seems slow and wild and one dimensional and without subtly. very strong but not sure his power will keep doing it at the best level where guys bring skill and power

bivol looking more complete

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:27
by Blodhemn
Hard to say. Everybody has a belt, and they all can punch. One thing that sucks about the division is there's no solidarity and there won't be anytime soon. I'd say Kovalev but his stamina is truly shit.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:27
by jamamb
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:21
jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:17 kovalev still looks good to me but hes getting to the ages where some less proven guys may actually be better and have more left, but just havent been able to show it at the highest level yet

prime 4 prime i was most impressed by adonis but the question is right now
Kovalev has performed better than Adonis has ever shown more than once.
adonis looked great vs dawson, cloud, bellew. he was great in his hbo run

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:28
by jamamb
ValMar wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:26 It is a very difficult question, almost impossible to answer.............Hooper ?
i included him because some here are high on him

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 02:33
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:27
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:21
jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:17 kovalev still looks good to me but hes getting to the ages where some less proven guys may actually be better and have more left, but just havent been able to show it at the highest level yet

prime 4 prime i was most impressed by adonis but the question is right now
Kovalev has performed better than Adonis has ever shown more than once.
adonis looked great vs dawson, cloud, bellew. he was great in his hbo run
Dawson never got his mojo back after the loss to Andre Ward, but yes that's definitely Adonis' best win. The win over Bellew is great too. Cloud ended his career on a piss poor run, and Adonis was one stop in the middle of that, but yeah it's a good win.

Kovalev's wins over Pascal and Hopkins are better than any of Stevenson's wins though, and I think the win over Cleverly is right there with the rest.

Hell his "Losing effort" in the 1st Ward fight was a higher level of skill than I believe Stevenson is capable of showing.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:02
by Mexi-Box
Bivol just got the best win of the division at the moment. Kovalev still has more depth, though. Stevenson/Jack winner will be #2 imo.

I'd probably say:

1. Kovalev
2. Bivol
3. Stevenson
4. Jack
5. Beterbiev
6. Gvozdyk
7. Alvarez
8. Browne
9. Barrera
10. Hooper

Hard for me to say Barrera should be under Hooper or Murat given that he's a better fighter than both H2H. Man, the division is pretty damn hot right now. Top 6 are so damn interchangeable. Hard to really say one is better than the other.

I think we know Alvarez and Browne's level, though. I don't think either will get past the level of bottom 10 contender.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:04
by jamamb
ya, the division is super hot and up for grabs

would be great for the next wbss as long as they included the big names and avoided a 168 repeat

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:05
by Kalan
Kovalev is a better fighter than Ward and Stevenson period.... Ward quit because the division is too tough for him.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:05
by ValMar
jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 03:04 ya, the division is super hot and up for grabs

would be great for the next wbss as long as they included the big names and avoided a 168 repeat
Yes !

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:06
by jamamb
Kalan wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 03:05 Kovalev is a better fighter than Ward and Stevenson period.... Ward quit because the division is too tough for him.
i dont think its clear hes the very best now (even if he has the best record), or was better then adonis.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:19
by Mexi-Box
Kalan wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 03:05 Kovalev is a better fighter than Ward and Stevenson period.... Ward quit because the division is too tough for him.
Man, Bivol really showed him up. Beat the best version of Barrera and in better fashion.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 03:21
by jamamb
i think kov would beat barrera better then ward did too though tbh . ward stepped it up when it mattered most

but yes bivol was beating barrera wider and stopped him, so there is a minor outdoing of ward there

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 06:53
by DrDuke
Kovalev still looks the best there.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 23:02
by world ranked
wtf is hooper?

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 00:11
by Lackeos
Wtf is Damien Hooper's name doing in this list? Get that sh*t out of here.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 00:14
by jamamb
i included him for certain ppl who are higj on him, but i guess the jury has spoken :lol:

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 00:46
by happyNY18
Kovalev by a mile. Even without his power he would be the best - but his power is ATG levels, he must be one of the p4p hardest hitters I've ever seen.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 06 Mar 2018, 15:26
by jewboypgh
that division is stacked. love this division. id go with that Gvozdyk, Kovalev and Beterbiev. they must feed these russians
and ukrainians raw meat. man are they savage.
that stevenson is a disgrace to boxing. time for him to take out the tampon and fight someone.

Re: who is the best lhw?

Posted: 06 Mar 2018, 15:39
by Tony1244
Bivol.