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Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 04 Mar 2018, 21:32
by Taansend
In your opinion?
90k at Wembley?
80k in Cardiff under the safety of a roof?
20k in Vegas?
Madison Square Garden?
Personally I think they should have it in Gainesville which has a stadium that holds 90k & is only a 2 hour drive from Orlando so loads of British could come over.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 00:11
by jamamb
lol at it doing anywhere near 90k in the us
i mean with it able to do around 90k in the uk why not there? are us site fees really that much when neither guy is big there? would any boost aj gets in american profile vs a non star really be worth a loss of uk money?
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 02:42
by MrGuy
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 00:11
lol at it doing anywhere near 90k in the us
i mean with it able to do around 90k in the uk why not there? are us site fees really that much when neither guy is big there? would any boost aj gets in american profile vs a non star really be worth a loss of uk money?
Joshua isnt a star.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 02:57
by jamamb
he isnt in the us, no
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:22
by nitro5912
It will be held where it makes most money for both fighters.
My guess is cardiff late in the year under the roof.
I don't see how doing in the states would make the money. It would kill alot of the UK PPV if early hours in the morning.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:25
by whiskey
Joshua is the A-side and the AA-side.
I like Wilder but the American heavyweight scene is nothing like the renaissance period of the 70's to 90's.
I forecast this is a Wembley gig.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:28
by Kalan
MrGuy wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 02:42
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 00:11
lol at it doing anywhere near 90k in the us
i mean with it able to do around 90k in the uk why not there? are us site fees really that much when neither guy is big there? would any boost aj gets in american profile vs a non star really be worth a loss of uk money?
Joshua isnt a star.
He's the biggest name in UK or European Boxing... He's big in the US... A Hell of a lot of American boxing fans know about Joshua and consider him the best Heavyweight... Wilder already said he would fight in England.....where the money is.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:35
by Kalan
G0mez wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:25
Joshua is the A-side and the AA-side.
I like Wilder but the American heavyweight scene is nothing like the renaissance period of the 70's to 90's.
It wasn't so great when Ali was fighting guys like Alfredo Evangelista, Mac Foster, and Joe Bugner... Terrible!!!
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:44
by Stuarty
It'll be over here, probably Wembley, with a late as fukk start time to maximise PPV/TV revenue in the States.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:49
by nitro5912
Stuarty wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:44
It'll be over here, probably Wembley, with a late as fukk start time to maximise PPV/TV revenue in the States.
Won't be at Wembley and pander to us audiences. The met won't allow anythimg after 11am
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:50
by Stuarty
nitro5912 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:49
Stuarty wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:44
It'll be over here, probably Wembley, with a late as fukk start time to maximise PPV/TV revenue in the States.
Won't be at Wembley and pander to us audiences. The met won't allow anythimg after 11am
I wasn't aware of that. Cheers
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 04:58
by nitro5912
I mean 11pm
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 05:00
by Stuarty
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 05:08
by Boxerbeetle
They surely won’t do 3 UK fights in a row for Joshua in Cardiff. My guess is, assuming AJ beats Parker, they’ll do it at Wembley in the summer.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 05:23
by Stuarty
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 05:08
They surely won’t do 3 UK fights in a row for Joshua in Cardiff. My guess is, assuming AJ beats Parker, they’ll do it at Wembley in the summer.
Wouldn't be surprised if Hearn tries to draw the Wilder fight right out and milk the cash cow til it's nearly dry before agreeing to Wilder. Fingers crossed it happens next though. Absolutely no reason for it not to happen next.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 05:51
by Coco
It will go where the money is
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 05:56
by the_doctor
The British press were claiming that Joshua/Klitschko made around £40-50m
I just don't see either Joshua or Wilder being well known enough for either a Casino to spend massive money hosting it or for a massive demand on PPV so surely the money is making it this summer at Wembley?
I think Joshua is very keen to fight in Vegas, which is why Hearn is trying to push either Joshua vs Miller in NYC first or a two-fight deal with Wilder. The problem with a two-fight deal is, if one is just totally out-classed and gets demolished how do you sell the second fight?
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 07:16
by danconnollyeire
the_doctor wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 05:56
The British press were claiming that Joshua/Klitschko made around £40-50m
I just don't see either Joshua or Wilder being well known enough for either a Casino to spend massive money hosting it or for a massive demand on PPV so surely the money is making it this summer at Wembley?
I think Joshua is very keen to fight in Vegas, which is why Hearn is trying to push either Joshua vs Miller in NYC first or a two-fight deal with Wilder. The problem with a two-fight deal is, if one is just totally out-classed and gets demolished how do you sell the second fight?
In interviews he doesn't sound like he cares about fighting in the states at all. Says openly he'd rather fight at Wembley every single time that 10k in vegas. I think it's more earn trying to break the American market
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 07:20
by dirk2686
the_doctor wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 05:56The problem with a two-fight deal is, if one is just totally out-classed and gets demolished how do you sell the second fight?
Agreed. I know some have picked Wilder to win but I honestly think Joshua could just flatten him inside two or three rounds. If that happens then attention turns to Fury regardless of the condition he's in, or a year/18 months when he fights the likes of Povetkin, Ortiz, Pulev. Who knows how the land will lie in two years; a fight with someone like Dubois might be massive.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 08:25
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 07:20
the_doctor wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 05:56The problem with a two-fight deal is, if one is just totally out-classed and gets demolished how do you sell the second fight?
Agreed. I know some have picked Wilder to win but I honestly think Joshua could just flatten him inside two or three rounds. If that happens then attention turns to Fury regardless of the condition he's in, or a year/18 months when he fights the likes of Povetkin, Ortiz, Pulev. Who knows how the land will lie in two years; a fight with someone like Dubois might be massive.
The problem for AJ is everyone in America sees Fury as the lineal champ, as this months The Ring magazine front cover proves.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 08:56
by Taansend
Kalan wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:28
MrGuy wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 02:42
jamamb wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 00:11
lol at it doing anywhere near 90k in the us
i mean with it able to do around 90k in the uk why not there? are us site fees really that much when neither guy is big there? would any boost aj gets in american profile vs a non star really be worth a loss of uk money?
Joshua isnt a star.
He's the biggest name in UK or European Boxing... He's big in the US... A Hell of a lot of American boxing fans know about Joshua and consider him the best Heavyweight... Wilder already said he would fight in England.....where the money is.
He's not big in the U.S. Mate.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 08:59
by Taansend
nitro5912 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:49
Stuarty wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 04:44
It'll be over here, probably Wembley, with a late as fukk start time to maximise PPV/TV revenue in the States.
Won't be at Wembley and pander to us audiences. The met won't allow anythimg after 11am
No chance of it being ppv over here either
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 09:00
by brian13
The most sensible venue would be a stadium in London. However, if I was to put money on the venue I would be very inclined to go with the T-mobile arena in Vegas.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 10:01
by dirk2686
mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 08:25The problem for AJ is everyone in America sees Fury as the lineal champ, as this months The Ring magazine front cover proves.
'Someone in America' doesn't equal everyone you absolute mess.
'Most' people in America have never heard of Fury and those who watched the fight with Wlad are now probably utterly committed MMA fans.
Re: Where Should Joshua v Wilder Be Held?
Posted: 05 Mar 2018, 10:18
by mickey1975
dirk2686 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 10:01
mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 08:25The problem for AJ is everyone in America sees Fury as the lineal champ, as this months The Ring magazine front cover proves.
'Someone in America' doesn't equal everyone you absolute mess.
'Most' people in America have never heard of Fury and those who watched the fight with Wlad are now probably utterly committed MMA fans.
"Absolute mess"? Because I pointed out the bible of boxings front page? Ok... I think you'll find Fury is MUCH the bigger name over there. You clueless f ucking idiot.