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Can anyone please tell me how good was former World Middleweight Champion Carl "Bobo" Olson based in his fights on film? Was he a boxer-puncher who had a good left jab along with a barrage of punches?

He had a very weak chin... I remember his fight with Jose Torres... It was over before it began... Pop pop bap... OUT!!!!

Hey Kalan,you sound reasonably educated.
A couple years back I had asked if it is possible that it was Bobo Olson
sparring with Sonny Liston in this clip from 1966.
But it was poo-pooed by some because the boxer is fighting south-paw
and Olson fought Right-handed (as if no boxer was caple of swithching over,especially
when Liston was preparing to fight a south-paw(Zech)
so do you think that may be Bobo Olson at 2:25 of this clip ?

Reasonably educated? LOL.. How about WELL educated?

That's not Bo Bo Olson... But it sure as Hell looks like an amazingly cheap ring and a 5th rate sparring partner who can't throw punches worth a damn and can't handle the work.... and a trainer who doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

You never want a trainer (at least I didn't) jabbering away non-stop when you're boxing somebody - unless he's talking to your sparmate - and telling him to throw, or to jab, or do whatever, so you get enough work out of him... But you want to focus on your own strategies, footwork, moves, timing, punches, and tactics without a flow of chatter from a trainer that distracts your concentration... He can tell you whatever he needs to tell you between rounds.

Sonny didn't need a headguard to box this guy... He had to take it super easy on him.

Ive watched a bit of Olson recently, put in a great performance against Turpin to become champion but was well beaten by Robinson in all 4 fights, ive never seen their first fight as it isn't available but he was soundly outpointed in the rematch and KO'd comfortably in the 3rd and 4th fights

He's a tough rugged game fighter but couldn't hustle Robinson the way Basilio and Fullmer did

Bobo wasn't very tough or rugged... He was knocked out 7 times and in trouble often... Jose Torres KO'd him quickly.

Archie Moore told a reporter -- and maybe he was frustrated with Al Weill and everything he had to do to get the Marciano fight, but he said something like this... "I'm going to knock Olsen out right away with the 1st punch I throw... He can't box and he can't punch... They're putting me through the wringer. They wanted me to fight Valdes, who's a big Heavyweight so I had to put on weight to 197.. Now now a month later they want me to make the Light Heavyweight limit for Olsen.. This is going to weaken me.. So they're going to spring the Marciano fight on me right after that."

Olsen was a bit weak and soft - but I would say he was a crafty boxer... He was on TV a lot and could beat soft hitters like Turpin, Gavilan, Castellani, Thornton, and Maxim.

Kalan wrote: ↑11 Mar 2018, 15:33 Bobo wasn't very tough or rugged... He was knocked out 7 times and in trouble often... Jose Torres KO'd him quickly.

Archie Moore told a reporter -- and maybe he was frustrated with Al Weill and everything he had to do to get the Marciano fight, but he said something like this... "I'm going to knock Olsen out right away with the 1st punch I throw... He can't box and he can't punch... They're putting me through the wringer. They wanted me to fight Valdes, who's a big Heavyweight so I had to put on weight to 197.. Now now a month later they want me to make the Light Heavyweight limit for Olsen.. This is going to weaken me.. So they're going to spring the Marciano fight on me right after that."

Olsen was a bit weak and soft - but I would say he was a crafty boxer... He was on TV a lot and could beat soft hitters like Turpin, Gavilan, Castellani, Thornton, and Maxim.

Turpin was a soft hitter?

For me he was....

He swung as hard as he could to make up of a weak punch... That opens you up for counter shots and he got knocked out 5 times... Olsen was weak and soft and not a big hitter - but he almost got Turpin out... Randy was in trouble a # of times.

Bobo could fight otherwise he would not be World Middleweight Champion that's a fact and its no shame to be mastered by the best P4P Fighter to lace a glove on in Robinson Aussie great Dave Sands beat Bobo twice.

Bobo could fight... How well he could fight is another question... Moore said he couldn't box or punch.

It's no feather in the cap to be beaten by Robinson... SRR had 19 losses - quite a few times to guys you never heard of... He was far from the greatest... He got decked really hard by loaded swings from plodders like Rocky Castellani and Artie Levine... Some masters were never knocked down and never even shaken by a punch.

Carl "Bobo" Olson beat Joey Maxim after losing his world middleweight title to Robinson. What are your thoughts?

On the truth.... Maxim was a punchless wonder with tons of losses.... Who cares who beat him?

Joey fought one really smart fight in his life... He tricked Robinson into punching himself out....and then finished him.

Caractacus wrote: ↑09 Mar 2018, 14:12 Hey Kalan,you sound reasonably educated.
A couple years back I had asked if it is possible that it was Bobo Olson
sparring with Sonny Liston in this clip from 1966.
But it was poo-pooed by some because the boxer is fighting south-paw
and Olson fought Right-handed (as if no boxer was caple of swithching over,especially
when Liston was preparing to fight a south-paw(Zech)
so do you think that may be Bobo Olson at 2:25 of this clip ?

What ?
Of course that's Bobo Olson (I beleive anyway)
What makes you think that IS NOT Bobo Olson ?
prove it isn't him.
Then I will tell you why I think it may be.

You're going to tell me by the tattoo on his right arm at 2:29 of the video... But Olsen's tattoo came down sharper on his right arm than that... Why would Liston be boxing a short, right handed Light Heavyweight to get ready for a 6'5" X 226- pound southpaw Heavyweight? .... That's a poor job of lining up sparring for a championship caliber fighter.

This guy guy actually doesn't look as skilled as Olsen would be -- even though Olsen ordinarily never boxed southpaw... It's possible it's Olsen.. I wouldn't be shocked if it were... Tattoos fade badly and are redone over time... and can look different, but that's not a lot of years... The face looks a lot different though.. This guy appears to have a pug nose.

NOW I recognize that guy... Of COURSE!!! ... It's German Middleweight southpaw Gustav Scholz...

Scholz is aging badly, the wrong size to imitate Zech, and must be having a bad day... But at least he's a southpaw.

Regarding the Olson-Gavilan fight, I understand that Kid Gavilan had a broken hand in his fight with Bobo Olson.