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Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 10:10
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxing fans have more reason to celebrate this St Patrick’s Day with allegedly to air Michael Conlan’s ring return on the Jose Ramirez v Amir Imam world title card exclusively live this Saturday night.

The 2012 Olympic bronze medalist will take on the heavy handed Hungarian David Berna, who has knocked out 14 opponents in his 15 wins, and will be looking to push on again in 2018.

Jim McMunn, Box-Nation Managing Director, said: “It will be a fantastic sporting weekend for the Irish starting with the Gold Cup at Cheltenham on Friday, a possible Grand Slam in the Six Nations on Saturday, all rounded off with one of their own “Fighting Irish”, Michael Conlan, as he steps into the ring at the legendary Madison Square Garden supported by Irish America on St Patrick’s Day. This is a brilliant card with some serious talent on display. Headlined by two ferocious punchers in Jose Ramirez against Amir Imam for the vacant WBC light-welterweight world title, it will be a bill that promises edge-of-the-seat action from start to finish.”

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Anyone tuning in this weekend?

Running order - Box-Nation is live from 12am!

*Please note, all fights subject to change without notice.

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Oleksandr GVOZDYK vs. Mehdi AMAR

12 x 3 Minute Rounds: The Interim WBC World Light-Heavyweight Title

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Follows

Jose RAMIREZ vs. Amir IMAM

12 x 3 Minute Rounds: The vacant WBC World Super-Lightweight Title

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Follows

Michael CONLAN vs. David BERNA

8 x 3 Minute Rounds: Featherweight contest

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 10:16
by jamamb
conlans 27 this year and been to 2 olympics, would like to see him in with better opponents soon

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 10:18
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 10:16 conlans 27 this year and been to 2 olympics, would like to see him in with better opponents soon
I think he should be more active.. But looks like he's slowly stepping up.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 10:34
by Stuarty
I meant to post the other day to see if anyone had info on who was picking this up. Excellent news. Won't stay up but I'll watch on Sunday morning :TU:

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 12:38
by ste1983
I'll watch it Sunday morning over a bacon sarnie doubt I'll get up/stay up though.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 15:44
by Ruthless-RKO
ste1983 wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 12:38 I'll watch it Sunday morning over a bacon sarnie doubt I'll get up/stay up though.
Yeh. Not really a fight i'd stay up for.

Hopefully Box-Nation put the replay on early Sunday instead of evening.. they surprisingly put Garcia-Lipinets early on Sunday.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 16:23
by handsofstone
I would've preferred the Prograis/Indongo fight to be for the vacant WBC title but this is still a decent fight, ive seen a bit of both guys over the years on undercards but I remember more of Imam, he's a dangerous fast puncher, he did get a beating from Granados though but no disgrace there although at the time it was seen as a big upset but Granados has proven to be a very good fighter

Ive been impressed more with Ramirez though, cant remember seeing him struggle yet and always looks in total control, I can see him KO'n Imam

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 16:55
by Ruthless-RKO
handsofstone wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 16:23 I would've preferred the Prograis/Indongo fight to be for the vacant WBC title but this is still a decent fight, ive seen a bit of both guys over the years on undercards but I remember more of Imam, he's a dangerous fast puncher, he did get a beating from Granados though but no disgrace there although at the time it was seen as a big upset but Granados has proven to be a very good fighter

Ive been impressed more with Ramirez though, cant remember seeing him struggle yet and always looks in total control, I can see him KO'n Imam
Well good thing is. Winner of this will fight Prograis.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 17:30
by Oiky
Not a bad fight

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 17:48
by TheLeprechaun
handsofstone wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 16:23 I would've preferred the Prograis/Indongo fight to be for the vacant WBC title but this is still a decent fight, ive seen a bit of both guys over the years on undercards but I remember more of Imam, he's a dangerous fast puncher, he did get a beating from Granados though but no disgrace there although at the time it was seen as a big upset but Granados has proven to be a very good fighter

Ive been impressed more with Ramirez though, cant remember seeing him struggle yet and always looks in total control, I can see him KO'n Imam
Imam has got some power in the right hand. I remember Granados got flattened in the first round. 18KOs in 21 fights. I think Ramirez looks open. Not sure what his chin is like. Imam is very dangerous. I favour Imam in this one.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 02:54
by Ruthless-RKO
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The Ramirez-Imam fight will mark the 2,000th world title bout in the WBC’s 55-year history.

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Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 16 Mar 2018, 09:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Running order - Box-Nation is live from 12am!

*Please note, all fights subject to change without notice.
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Oleksandr GVOZDYK vs. Mehdi AMAR
12 x 3 Minute Rounds: The Interim WBC World Light-Heavyweight Title
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Follows
Jose RAMIREZ vs. Amir IMAM
12 x 3 Minute Rounds: The vacant WBC World Super-Lightweight Title
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Follows
Michael CONLAN vs. David BERNA
8 x 3 Minute Rounds: Featherweight contest

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Good to see Conlan closing the card..

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 05:01
by TheLeprechaun
I think Imam takes this. He is a dangerous puncher and im not sure Ramirez is as tough as Granados. Imam will fight at his own pace and control a fight. I'm not saying he is the second coming of Monzon or anything but he has decent skills and controls the range. Granados came in looking to rough Imam up from the first bell and was flattened to the canvas inside a minute. It looked like a clean KO to me but he showed toughness that Ramirez hasn't shown to get back up and take it to Imam, roughing him up and getting the win. Granados could take what Imam threw and that's what enabled him to win the fight. I don't know if Ramirez has that toughness. He looks pretty open and reckless to me, and dare I say it - made for Imam.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 05:04
by jamamb
will be interesting

ive actually seen granados get dropped 7 or 8 times, including 2x by the pretty crap mark salser, so not sure what it means, but imam scored some nasty ktfos against guys other prospects werent stopping or at least not as hard. he clearly has pop and was highly regarded till that loss

ramirez was an olympian and looked good in destroying reed last fight

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 05:22
by Boxerbeetle
The thread title suggests this is a 2v1 handicap match :yay:

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 05:22 The thread title suggests this is a 2v1 handicap match :yay:
Loving that aren't you? Let's make it a No DQ match! :box:

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:25
by TheLeprechaun
jamamb wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 05:04 will be interesting

ive actually seen granados get dropped 7 or 8 times, including 2x by the pretty crap mark salser, so not sure what it means, but imam scored some nasty ktfos against guys other prospects werent stopping or at least not as hard. he clearly has pop and was highly regarded till that loss

ramirez was an olympian and looked good in destroying reed last fight

Yeah if anyone gets bored type Amir Imam KO's into youtube. Some nice examples of a fighter getting starched. He's got some slickness too. Ramirez is pretty basic. The Granados fight is definitely worrying. It looks like Imam hasn't developed his footwork or jab enough. He really relies on his power scaring opponents from getting too reckless and coming forward on him. Granados got in his grill and was willing to take some to land his own. Ramirez may be willing to do the same but if he does that I'm not sure he has the chin, and I think Imam can add another starching to his youtube highlights.



Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 06:56
by Boxerbeetle
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 06:11
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 05:22 The thread title suggests this is a 2v1 handicap match :yay:
Loving that aren't you? Let's make it a No DQ match! :box:
In a steel cage :yay:

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 07:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 06:56
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 06:11
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 05:22 The thread title suggests this is a 2v1 handicap match :yay:
Loving that aren't you? Let's make it a No DQ match! :box:
In a steel cage :yay:
They should just re-schedule the fight and have it main event WrestleMania 34!! :clap:

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 11:44
by Ruthless-RKO
The Case for Ramirez:

While he competed at the 2012 Olympics, Jose Ramirez didn’t come out of the Games with the same expectations as someone like teammate Errol Spence. He was seen as a raw project to develop and develop he has. Ramirez presses the fight but he doesn’t do so without thought. His jab has become a smart weapon. It’s not always the quickest, but he sticks with it and can turn it over into a hook suddenly. Ramirez works the body well and, to date, has been a good finisher. In Imam he has a fighter who can match his height and he can’t afford to let Imam get comfortable in being first. That might not be easy. If the quicker Imam starts to bank some rounds, Ramirez can’t get frustrated into mistakes. Imam can punch. Ramirez can too and showed real finishing chops in his last outing against the undefeated Mike Reed. He knows Imam was down against Fidel Maldonado and stopped by Adrian Granados. Imam often fights out of the pocket and that could play to Ramirez’s advantage if he stays patient.


The Case for Imam:

Imam has serious punching power and can show off good defensive technique. The difference between being a teammate of Ramirez’s at the 2012 Games was Imam’s inability to defeat Spence; his foundation is solid. With two fights in 2017, the most recent in November, inactivity shouldn’t be too big an issue. Much of Imam’s chances could come down to his mental approach. If he has shaken off the Granados loss, a fight where he took a lot of leather, he will find Ramirez hittable. Imam fights taller than Ramirez does and that could help the New Yorker get some nice leverage on his right hand. While much has been made of Imam’s vulnerability, Ramirez was on the floor against unheralded Johnny Garcia in 2015. If Ramirez starts to land will Imam go back to his lone loss and wilt under the pressure? Or does he plant his feet and find a needed career saver?

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 11:59
by pyenest77
Not good enough to watch live for me so will watch the show from the beginning about 8am tomorrow.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 19:09
by jamamb
verdejo just got stopped hard on the undercard

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 19:24
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 19:09 verdejo just got stopped hard on the undercard
Lozado is no pushover.

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 19:30
by handsofstone
jamamb wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 19:09 verdejo just got stopped hard on the undercard
:oo

Re: Jose Ramirez vs. Amir Imam & Conlan - Box-Nation: Who's watching?

Posted: 17 Mar 2018, 19:38
by jamamb
flanagan vs verdejo looked like it was going to happen at one point when verdejo still had hyped but was already looking vulnerable ....tel missed a great opportunity there, i think he wouldve done it