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Has anyone else noticed a correlation between fighters having very small heads and also having poor chins?

Look at David Price for example, he has a tiny head. Amir Khan's head isn't the biggest either. Jarrod Fletcher who BJS knocked in 2 rounds also has a small head. Hearns also had quite a small head.

What are our thoughts?

You might find its the neck not the head thats more important

Yeah I'd say neck

Strong roots in a tree make it harder to bring down, so a thicker neck has its benefits

Is Prices head any smaller than anyone else's? It's sat on a giants frame.

Certain misconceptions with someone’s chin being strong and although contributing factors like size of head and neck the actual main part of having a good chin is your legs. Also Khan gets put down a lot for having a glass jaw.. Thats not exactly true.. Khan gets knocked down because he throws recklessly and doesn’t see the punches coming back.. If you see the punch coming it’s less likely to knock you out and your brain is ready for it where as like Khan when he gets hit his brain is scrambled and there’s no recovery in the legs

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:15 the actual main part of having a good chin is your legs.

Nope.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:19

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:15 the actual main part of having a good chin is your legs.

Nope.

What a shock you disagree. Enlighten us all with your opinion

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:25

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:19

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:15 the actual main part of having a good chin is your legs.

Nope.

What a shock you disagree. Enlighten us all with your opinion

Do I disagree with you a lot?
This is not really a matter of opinion. Losing consciousness because of a punch is due to ‘brain shake’. The ‘main part’ of reducing brain shake is not strong legs.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:38

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:25

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:19

Nope.

What a shock you disagree. Enlighten us all with your opinion

Do I disagree with you a lot?
This is not really a matter of opinion. Losing consciousness because of a punch is due to ‘brain shake’. The ‘main part’ of reducing brain shake is not strong legs.

The best way is to avoid the punches and keep your chin tucked in

There's probably a correlation there - smaller head means less mass, so the same amount of force applied to it will result in greater acceleration = more brain shake. Also a bigger head is likely to indicate a thicker skull which protects the brain more / diffuses the kinetic energy of a punch. But it's one of a number of factors.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:38

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:25

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:19

Nope.

What a shock you disagree. Enlighten us all with your opinion

Do I disagree with you a lot?
This is not really a matter of opinion. Losing consciousness because of a punch is due to ‘brain shake’. The ‘main part’ of reducing brain shake is not strong legs.

Losing consciousness is not having a good chin or not.. I’m pretty sure I made that clear in my post about the brains reaction.. My point is legs are the foundation that’s why Froch has such a good chin and go up from the Groves knock down.. Maybe I should of been clearer for better punch resistance strong legs as someone else said chin down and try and anticipate punches coming

Dunno if its a coincidence but iv pointed out before people with known good chins for some reason usualy have a got a big head. Jake lamotta,george chuvalo,randall cobb,oliver mccall,marvin hagler,nicolai valuev,carmen basilio,
Obviously theres exceptions to the rules both sides Mayweather has a small head for example but on the whole when you look at guys with good chins they usualy have bigger than average head
Perhaps the neck having to carry a bigger heavier weight becomes stronger ? who knows interesting tho.

I dont know if it works the other way round and if you look at guys who seem to have less punch resistance than others if they have slightly smaller heads or necks interesting tho

on the tale of the tape they should have a head circumference measurement

jimcook wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 06:17 on the tale of the tape they should have a head circumference measurement

Price's chin isn't even bad, he has a bad gasstank, freezes up and can't fight on instincts. I don't think an Oliver McCall chin would have saved him from his losses.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 07:51 Price's chin isn't even bad, he has a bad gasstank, freezes up and can't fight on instincts. I don't think an Oliver McCall chin would have saved him from his losses.

Was Price gassed in the Teper and the first Thompson fight? I don't think he was.

TheWizard321 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 09:10

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 07:51 Price's chin isn't even bad, he has a bad gasstank, freezes up and can't fight on instincts. I don't think an Oliver McCall chin would have saved him from his losses.

Was Price gassed in the Teper and the first Thompson fight? I don't think he was.

Was it not a burst eardrum that wrecked his balance in the first Thompson fight. He was being outboxed anyway.

He was a deer in the headlights against Teper he barely threw a punch.

Price is also very stiff and can't roll with/ride a shot to save his life. Even if he sees it coming he can't get out of the way.

Big stiff idiot

Pac has huge head and good chin.

Chisora has pretty good chin.... Does he even have a neck? He looks like hes ass starts straight where hes neck should be

I think that the neck and Head size do matter. How much I don't know...

There's nothing wrong with a little head.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 10:18

TheWizard321 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 09:10

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 07:51 Price's chin isn't even bad, he has a bad gasstank, freezes up and can't fight on instincts. I don't think an Oliver McCall chin would have saved him from his losses.

Was Price gassed in the Teper and the first Thompson fight? I don't think he was.

Was it not a burst eardrum that wrecked his balance in the first Thompson fight. He was being outboxed anyway.

He was a deer in the headlights against Teper he barely threw a punch.

Froch burst his eardrum against Pascal and won over twelve hard rounds, it doesn't mean you lose your balance and can't fight on automatically! Just that Froch has a good chin and Price does not

daviddee wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 04:15 Certain misconceptions with someone’s chin being strong and although contributing factors like size of head and neck the actual main part of having a good chin is your legs. Also Khan gets put down a lot for having a glass jaw.. Thats not exactly true.. Khan gets knocked down because he throws recklessly and doesn’t see the punches coming back.. If you see the punch coming it’s less likely to knock you out and your brain is ready for it where as like Khan when he gets hit his brain is scrambled and there’s no recovery in the legs

Thats rubbish.

The shape and width of the jaw and neck and shoulder girdle is hugely important.

Controversial wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 11:54 There's nothing wrong with a little head.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 10:18

TheWizard321 wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 09:10

BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 07:51 Price's chin isn't even bad, he has a bad gasstank, freezes up and can't fight on instincts. I don't think an Oliver McCall chin would have saved him from his losses.

Was Price gassed in the Teper and the first Thompson fight? I don't think he was.

Was it not a burst eardrum that wrecked his balance in the first Thompson fight. He was being outboxed anyway.

He was a deer in the headlights against Teper he barely threw a punch.

price was being outboxed? i dont think so. thompson had barely thrown a punch and the biggest moment of the fight till the knockout was a flurry price had

price easily has a bad chin. thompsons not a puncher at all and has never flattened anyone decent like he did price. and of course teper brutally ktfo him. and pala put him on his ass and even the guy he fought in his debut rocked him. now add in the billion or so knockdowns he took as an amateur.....