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gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:15 I know Floyd has a lot of money, but I highly doubt he'd just "buy" his fighters a title. He had to earn his, and I'm sure he expects if you ain't good enough to earn yours, you ain't worth his money in the first place.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 14:48 I swear some people look for a conspiracy in everything

KiwiRider wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:01

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 14:48 I swear some people look for a conspiracy in everything

Apart from any conspiracy, real or otherwise, it defies the constitution of the WBA to sanction anything other than Machado defending the title he won.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:16

KiwiRider wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:01

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 14:48 I swear some people look for a conspiracy in everything

Apart from any conspiracy, real or otherwise, it defies the constitution of the WBA to sanction anything other than Machado defending the title he won.

Can you please tell me last time the WBA followed it's own rules.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:48

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:16

KiwiRider wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 15:01

Apart from any conspiracy, real or otherwise, it defies the constitution of the WBA to sanction anything other than Machado defending the title he won.

Can you please tell me last time the WBA followed it's own rules.

Aw, come on man!
Can't I have an easier question please?

tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 14:48 I swear some people look for a conspiracy in everything

klitoris wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:03 Alberto Machado beat Jezreel Corrales for the WBA World Super-Featherweight Title on October 21st, 2017.

But now it seems that Floyd has paid off the WBA to put Gervonta Davis in a title fight against Jesus Cuellar for the WBA "Super" World Super-Featherweight Title which would be valued as the higher title.
Check this out : http://boxrec.com/en/event/764053

Gervonta Davis who was an IBF Champion who lost his belt on the scales in his last fight (and probably has never been even ranked by the WBA at 130)
and
Jesus Cuellar who is debuting in the 130 weight division and the day of the fight will be coming back from a year and half hiatus, since his LOSS to Abner Mares!

How do these fighters get a title shot for a higher belt if:

Uchiyama held the WBA Super Belt
Then lost it to Corrales
Corrales lost it on the scales, but it was still on the line for Machado who won it.

Now Machado just gets pushed over?!?!?!

WBA

jamamb wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 19:02 lol so what exactly did they tell machado? you won the super title but were downgrading you so gervonta davis can fight for it vs a 126 pounder who hasnt won since 2015?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:15 I know Floyd has a lot of money, but I highly doubt he'd just "buy" his fighters a title. He had to earn his, and I'm sure he expects if you ain't good enough to earn yours, you ain't worth his money in the first place.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 20:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:15 I know Floyd has a lot of money, but I highly doubt he'd just "buy" his fighters a title. He had to earn his, and I'm sure he expects if you ain't good enough to earn yours, you ain't worth his money in the first place.

Floyd is a businessman. He knows that Davis with a title will earn him more money that one without a title, Floyd bought that opportunity for himself, not for Davis, and he will get all that money back from Davis one way or another.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 20:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:15 I know Floyd has a lot of money, but I highly doubt he'd just "buy" his fighters a title. He had to earn his, and I'm sure he expects if you ain't good enough to earn yours, you ain't worth his money in the first place.

Floyd is a businessman. He knows that Davis with a title will earn him more money that one without a title, Floyd bought that opportunity for himself, not for Davis, and he will get all that money back from Davis one way or another.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 11:18

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 20:49

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 12:15 I know Floyd has a lot of money, but I highly doubt he'd just "buy" his fighters a title. He had to earn his, and I'm sure he expects if you ain't good enough to earn yours, you ain't worth his money in the first place.

Floyd is a businessman. He knows that Davis with a title will earn him more money that one without a title, Floyd bought that opportunity for himself, not for Davis, and he will get all that money back from Davis one way or another.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:42

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 11:18

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Mar 2018, 20:49
Floyd is a businessman. He knows that Davis with a title will earn him more money that one without a title, Floyd bought that opportunity for himself, not for Davis, and he will get all that money back from Davis one way or another.

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

You're making a lot of assumptions thinking Floyd wouldn't.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:50

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:42

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 11:18

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

You're making a lot of assumptions thinking Floyd wouldn't.

I just don't see why he would. Corruption in Boxing certainly wouldn't shock me to find out about, I just don't see why Floyd would feel the need to do that for a guy who clearly has the talent to do it himself.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:50

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:42

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 11:18

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

You're making a lot of assumptions thinking Floyd wouldn't.

I just don't see why he would. Corruption in Boxing certainly wouldn't shock me to find out about, I just don't see why Floyd would feel the need to do that for a guy who clearly has the talent to do it himself.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:56

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:50

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:42
You're making a lot of assumptions thinking Floyd wouldn't.

I just don't see why he would. Corruption in Boxing certainly wouldn't shock me to find out about, I just don't see why Floyd would feel the need to do that for a guy who clearly has the talent to do it himself.

Maybe because Davis is a Broner type, so Floyd needs to make money fast before it becomes clear.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 14:02

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 13:56

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Mar 2018, 12:50

I just don't see why he would. Corruption in Boxing certainly wouldn't shock me to find out about, I just don't see why Floyd would feel the need to do that for a guy who clearly has the talent to do it himself.

Maybe because Davis is a Broner type, so Floyd needs to make money fast before it becomes clear.

This might be true if Floyd's entire stable consisted of Gervonta Davis, but Floyd also has Badou Jack and a few other talented guys right?

So again...what need would he have to be buying these guys' fights when they've only ever been matched with guys that they were perfectly capable of beating on their own merits?