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That would be crazy.

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:40 That would be crazy.

I would estimate the odds of a Price decision at about the same chances
Of winning the lottery while screwing a virgin while being struck by lightning in an Artic storm

Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

True.

and pass up a huge aj payday? ifs hes gonna do that may as well have turned it in years ago

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

The Epic of Gilgamesh...yup...If Price actually wins, it'll put him in line to lose to, er I mean fight Joshua or Wilder (or Parker to be fair).

jamamb wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 14:28 and pass up a huge aj payday? ifs hes gonna do that may as well have turned it in years ago

Oh he definitely wouldn't pass up the payday, but if he can't knock out Price I doubt anybody would be giving him any shot at all against AJ.

If he smashes Price he'll have a few people that'll be picking him at least I figure though he'll still be the underdog. He has his fans.

Remember, a confident Price destroyed the durable McDermott, Harrison, Skelton, & Sexton.

At least 3 of those could have beat the Price of the last 4/5 years.


If he has discovered a jab, he's got the power to KO Povetkin.

Parker & Price cheeky double for me. Why not at 49s?

my imagination sucks, i cannot even imagine it

apollo creed wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:40 That would be crazy.

Imagine pigs flying LOL.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

We'll see, but he may not be going for the knockout as much as he used to. He may be content to just beat up on his oponent. When was tge last time he even lost a single round? Wladimir - a hugely exciting and devestating KO artist in his early days - learned to do that as well. Unfortunately he overdid the reticense in the Joshua fight. The young Wladimir would have finished Joshua off.

That being said, I pick Povetkin by first round KO.

Come on Pricey!
Send that T-Rex back to the late Cretaceous period!
(I googled it )

KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:24 Come on Pricey!
Send that T-Rex back to the late Cretaceous period!
(I googled it )

Come on, Sasha! Send that pithecanthropus erectus Pricey back to the antideluvian period! (I didn't google it :) )

x2x wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:29

KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:24 Come on Pricey!
Send that T-Rex back to the late Cretaceous period!
(I googled it )

Come on, Sasha! Send that pithecanthropus erectus Pricey back to the antideluvian period! (I didn't google it :) )

Not bad, I think it's spelled Antidelusional Period

KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:42

x2x wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:29

KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:24 Come on Pricey!
Send that T-Rex back to the late Cretaceous period!
(I googled it )

Come on, Sasha! Send that pithecanthropus erectus Pricey back to the antideluvian period! (I didn't google it :) )

Not bad, I think it's spelled Antidelusional Period

No, you are thinking of your Auntie Dellie, they call her for short. But it's not polite to talk about her periods, even tho she does get rambunctious at those times and cracks you in the head with her boomerang.

Oh, Kiwi, you must be in NZ. Change boomerang to "her Maori war club".

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

Nonsense! Winning by knockouts and with power isn't the be end and all end to boxing. Maybe Povetkin might purposely not go for the knockout so everyone else, including Anthony Joshua and his team underestimate Povetkin? Or maybe he doesn't want to risk going for a knockout, and instead is saving his best for the best opponents and is therefore content in winning a decision by winning every round against lesser opponents like David Price?

x2x wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 23:38

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

We'll see, but he may not be going for the knockout as much as he used to. He may be content to just beat up on his oponent. When was tge last time he even lost a single round? Wladimir - a hugely exciting and devestating KO artist in his early days - learned to do that as well. Unfortunately he overdid the reticense in the Joshua fight. The young Wladimir would have finished Joshua off.

That being said, I pick Povetkin by first round KO.

This! I just don't understand why when a boxer is able to win every round against an opponent, or multiple opponents in succession, somehow leads some individuals to come to the conclusion that the boxer is 'shot' or finished.

If a boxer wins every round and wins comfortably by decision, then why should there be any complaints? If a boxer is old and is trying to preserve his health by not wanting to take too many risks against less significant opponents, then why should he be faulted? If a boxer faces an ultra-defensive opponent who is difficult to KO, but is able to win every round and comfortably win by decision, then why should he be faulted?

Logic is sometimes lost with boxing fans!

KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:24 Come on Pricey!
Send that T-Rex back to the late Cretaceous period!
(I googled it )

LOL!!!!

Timmmmbbbberrr. Povetkin KO, 2. Price is an oak about to be chopped.

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 02:04

x2x wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 23:38

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 12:54 Frankly Povetkin should retire if even HE wins a decision. If he can't knock out Price he's finished, and he'll never win another meaningful fight.

We'll see, but he may not be going for the knockout as much as he used to. He may be content to just beat up on his oponent. When was tge last time he even lost a single round? Wladimir - a hugely exciting and devestating KO artist in his early days - learned to do that as well. Unfortunately he overdid the reticense in the Joshua fight. The young Wladimir would have finished Joshua off.

That being said, I pick Povetkin by first round KO.

This! I just don't understand why when a boxer is able to win every round against an opponent, or multiple opponents in succession, somehow leads some individuals to come to the conclusion that the boxer is 'shot' or finished.

If a boxer wins every round and wins comfortably by decision, then why should there be any complaints? If a boxer is old and is trying to preserve his health by not wanting to take too many risks against less significant opponents, then why should he be faulted? If a boxer faces an ultra-defensive opponent who is difficult to KO, but is able to win every round and comfortably win by decision, then why should he be faulted?

Logic is sometimes lost with boxing fans!

You need a killer instinct to win at the top. Even if you got the skills still, if you don't have the killer instinct to take out a David Price you ain't taking out an Anthony Joshua.

Only way Price can win this is if he gets an extremely lucky one punch KO. It's possible because he has power.

Many skillful boxers lack power. This puts them at a disadvantage but many are good enough to beat very good fighters by decision on a regular basis, nothing strange about that.

But when you are known for ferocious power and short violent fights, then failure to finish successive moderate opposition is guaranteed to raise eyebrows, that's not illogical. Speculation that you might have begun your decline is not illogical. Not if you're 38 years old anyway.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 12:48

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 02:04

x2x wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 23:38

We'll see, but he may not be going for the knockout as much as he used to. He may be content to just beat up on his oponent. When was tge last time he even lost a single round? Wladimir - a hugely exciting and devestating KO artist in his early days - learned to do that as well. Unfortunately he overdid the reticense in the Joshua fight. The young Wladimir would have finished Joshua off.

That being said, I pick Povetkin by first round KO.

This! I just don't understand why when a boxer is able to win every round against an opponent, or multiple opponents in succession, somehow leads some individuals to come to the conclusion that the boxer is 'shot' or finished.

If a boxer wins every round and wins comfortably by decision, then why should there be any complaints? If a boxer is old and is trying to preserve his health by not wanting to take too many risks against less significant opponents, then why should he be faulted? If a boxer faces an ultra-defensive opponent who is difficult to KO, but is able to win every round and comfortably win by decision, then why should he be faulted?

Logic is sometimes lost with boxing fans!

You need a killer instinct to win at the top. Even if you got the skills still, if you don't have the killer instinct to take out a David Price you ain't taking out an Anthony Joshua.

So how was Andre Ward able to beat Sergey Kovalev when he failed to KO his previous opponents in Alexander Brand and Sullivan Barrera?

How was Lennox Lewis able to win his big fights, when he failed to previously KO a bum in Levi Billups that was KO'ed by pretty much every other top level boxer?

You're putting way too much emphasis on knockouts. Povetkin could very well still have the killer instinct and still not go for the KO for various different reasons.

Winning is the most important thing in boxing. Knockouts are secondary!

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 05:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 12:48

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 02:04

This! I just don't understand why when a boxer is able to win every round against an opponent, or multiple opponents in succession, somehow leads some individuals to come to the conclusion that the boxer is 'shot' or finished.

If a boxer wins every round and wins comfortably by decision, then why should there be any complaints? If a boxer is old and is trying to preserve his health by not wanting to take too many risks against less significant opponents, then why should he be faulted? If a boxer faces an ultra-defensive opponent who is difficult to KO, but is able to win every round and comfortably win by decision, then why should he be faulted?

Logic is sometimes lost with boxing fans!

You need a killer instinct to win at the top. Even if you got the skills still, if you don't have the killer instinct to take out a David Price you ain't taking out an Anthony Joshua.

So how was Andre Ward able to beat Sergey Kovalev when he failed to KO his previous opponents in Alexander Brand and Sullivan Barrera?

How was Lennox Lewis able to win his big fights, when he failed to previously KO a bum in Levi Billups that was KO'ed by pretty much every other top level boxer?

You're putting way too much emphasis on knockouts. Povetkin could very well still have the killer instinct and still not go for the KO for various different reasons.

Winning is the most important thing in boxing. Knockouts are secondary!

Ward was able to stop Kovalev because a referee allowed him to land several low blows without so much as a warning.

You don't always have to win by KO, but if you can't knock out David Price you can't beat Joshua that's all I'm saying. Price is a glass jawed Heavyweight who's not ranked in the Top 25. There's a world of difference between him and Joshua.

I'm not at all putting too much emphasis on knockouts. I realize winning is the most important thing in Boxing, but the whole point of Povetkin being matched with Price is for him to win via spectacular knockout...that's why the picked the frail David Price as his opponent in the first place.

If he looks mediocre against Price (and mediocre in this case would be any win that doesn't include a KO) they probably wouldn't be in as much of a hurry to match him with AJ.

He's SUPPOSED to knock out Price is what I'm saying.

Even though I expect the Russian to win this fight, it’s a bit of a banana skin for him, because my gut instinct has been telling me for quite some time that Price will be a very live dog in this bout, because the Liverpudlian has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

And let’s not forget that this is heavyweight boxing and all it takes is one punch to land bang on the button in order win a fight.

On paper, the Povetkin-Price fight is a mismatch, but let’s not forget that paper burns and there’s a reason why boxing is often referred to as “the theatre of the unexpected”, because anything can happen and sometimes underdogs score upsets.