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From time to time comments on the forum appear referring to 'casuals' in what seems (to me anyway) a derogatory manner. The general idea that comes across is that a casual is someone who knows little or nothing about boxing. Having once been called a casual on this forum (and being quite taken aback at the time) I wonder whether any of the more knowledgeable members might offer their own thoughts on the subject. For my own part I dot not profess to be any kind of expert but have followed boxing since I was about 12 y.o. and at one time ( albeit many moons ago) went to quite a few shows, both here and oversas. Took part in a few ISBA contests as well - with little success though as got flattened more than once.

Its a word I had never used or heard of about 12 - 18 months ago, or until AJ started to fill out places in record time. The term popped up on here, thats the first place I saw the term anyway.

I dont use it myself unless tongue in cheek. As the term 'Gate keeper' either which is another term I had never seen until about 12 - 18 months ago. Again this term has only ever popped up on this forum as far as im concerned anyway.

I have never used the term 'gate keeper' as i dont 'get it' and I dont suppose I will ever use it.

Fads come and go, like these 2 words.

I'm a casual! I was right in to boxing 15 to 20 years ago. Used to attend loads of shows. I got and am sick of all the politics and 'super' and 'regular' world champions. I also hated the PPV element of it all. I stopped following it for quite a while.

Nowadays I watch a few fights on the telly. I will pay for the odd PPV if worthy, maybe once a year. Keep up with the news on here really. Other than that I still can't be arsed with 90% of the sport. It's been it's own worst enemy!

Being a casual boxing fan is like a being football fan who only watches Premier League matches involving the top 6.

Nothing intrinsically wrong with it, people can do/watch whatever they want. It just means you have to take their views into context of their limited knowledge, that’s all.

I take a 'casual' to mean someone who is just interested in the big fights that are events rather than the content if the boxing.

In a football context, it would be like someone coming out and being a football fan during the world cup and euro's.

Nothing wrong with it, some people haven't got the time to invest fully in a sport

freddydoesdallas wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 12:18 I take a 'casual' to mean someone who is just interested in the big fights that are events rather than the content if the boxing.

In a football context, it would be like someone coming out and being a football fan during the world cup and euro's.

Nothing wrong with it, some people haven't got the time to invest fully in a sport

Nothing wrong with it but worse thing is when they watch 4 fights a year but walk around like they're experts like you say exactly the same as world cup and euros in the football

I think the word casuals is derogatory.
While there is nothing wrong with not being a full time, intensive fan, it more relates to the fella that considers himself an expert and says dumb things!
Or a fella who only supports one fighter and just watches it as a social thing!

Dirk is an example of a casual.

Haven't posted in a while!

I thought the term 'casuals' related to football hooliganism. I've seen recently at quite a few shows fighting breaking out related to football rivalry.

I have to admit I use the term in a derogatory way. The classic casual is someone who thinks AJ is the best fighter we've had in years and that boxing essentially revolves around Eddie Hearn and Matchroom. The arena tonight is full of casuals. You can tell as there's barely anyone actually watching the boxing yet despite it being a half decent undercard. They're probably all doing coke in the toilets or getting smashed and will come out when AJ comes on.

Im a casual these days, watch big international world title fights and the more interesting domestic scraps.

Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Well I know a few geezers at work who usually post on social media about Anthony Joshua around flight times, professing he’s a better fighter than Muhammad Ali, but not as good as the greatest of all time Mike Tyson etc
And when you actually talk to them you realise they have never even heard of Larry Holmes, that would be a casual.

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:46 Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Exactly. Do you think any of the six actual synchronised diving fans complain about everyone else watching the Olympics?

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:55 Well I know a few geezers at work who usually post on social media about Anthony Joshua around flight times, professing he’s a better fighter than Muhammad Ali, but not as good as the greatest of all time Mike Tyson etc
And when you actually talk to them you realise they have never even heard of Larry Holmes, that would be a casual.

That would be my definition of a casual, James describing himself as a more casual fan these days doesn't equate to being 'a casual'

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:46 Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Someone touched a nerve!

It's certainly true that for fighters to earn real money they need to pull in the casual fan

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:03

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:46 Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Exactly. Do you think any of the six actual synchronised diving fans complain about everyone else watching the Olympics?

Yes I do, fucks me off when people don't know their 301B from their 5032D

But I don't tend to hear people claiming to be experts when they tune in to cheer on their country in obscure Olympic sports.

I’m now a casual in terms of knowledge of boxers, who has what belts, who is fighting who etc.

But I bet I could read a fight and understand what’s going on when watching one better than most of those who could tell me who the strawweight IBF title holder is...

Why call folk casual fan as an insult? Maybe some folk join in here to learn? Should we be like the elite snobs and turn them away? I am a casual hockey fan. I watch only the playoffs. But I still know plenty about the sport. All are welcome so no need to group anyone. IMHO

Supremo wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:29 I’m now a casual in terms of knowledge of boxers, who has what belts, who is fighting who etc.

But I bet I could read a fight and understand what’s going on when watching one better than most of those who could tell me who the strawweight IBF title holder is...

Some fighters don't even follow boxing , Jamie McDonnell for example, don't think pacman followed the sport too closely either , McDonnell needed to look up who inoue was lol

Just don't get why some people go right into the matter about people being casual followers of the sport like it affects there life in some way

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:55

Supremo wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:29 I’m now a casual in terms of knowledge of boxers, who has what belts, who is fighting who etc.

But I bet I could read a fight and understand what’s going on when watching one better than most of those who could tell me who the strawweight IBF title holder is...

Some fighters don't even follow boxing , Jamie McDonnell for example, don't think pacman followed the sport too closely either , McDonnell needed to look up who inoue was lol

Just don't get why some people go right into the matter about people being casual followers of the sport like it affects there life in some way

Earnie Shavers said he doesn't follow boxing nor did he when he fought. He is one of my favorite boxers OAT.

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:57

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:55

Supremo wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:29 I’m now a casual in terms of knowledge of boxers, who has what belts, who is fighting who etc.

But I bet I could read a fight and understand what’s going on when watching one better than most of those who could tell me who the strawweight IBF title holder is...

Some fighters don't even follow boxing , Jamie McDonnell for example, don't think pacman followed the sport too closely either , McDonnell needed to look up who inoue was lol

Just don't get why some people go right into the matter about people being casual followers of the sport like it affects there life in some way

Earnie Shavers said he doesn't follow boxing nor did he when he fought. He is one of my favorite boxers OAT.

What a fighter, some punch he had

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:46 Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Too right mate
I got 4-5 casuals at my place for the AJ fight. They all think Parker is going to waste him
But they chipped in for the PPV, brought beers an one brought some wild venison for the barby, so right now, I love casuals.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 17:01

Oiky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 15:46 Who gives a f*ck how closely someone follows boxing

If someone watches all boxing and likes boxing history, like most of us on here, let em get on with it

If someone only watches the big fights and knows the big names, let em get on with it

In big fights like these casuals make up the majority of ppv and ticket buys anyway

Too right mate
I got 4-5 casuals at my place for the AJ fight. They all think Parker is going to waste him
But they chipped in for the PPV, brought beers an one brought some wild venison for the barby, so right now, I love casuals.

Don't be upset at your casual friends...wager with them!!! LMAO!