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Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 18:58**

AJ and Povetkin have been clear favorites, but in the result have had some issues in their fights.

Povetkin had a good fight in general, there was only one flaw - he was staggered by the guy, who had been given no chances. Yet Povetkin was able to score an expected KO.

Joshua's performance was more surprising. We shouldn't even talk about his inability to stop Parker, his performance in general was not so good, as it had been reflected on the scorecards.

And now I'd like to see Povetkin and AJ facing each other, especially considering all the promises to Povetkin's team

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:03**

Povetkin is nearly 40 years old. That and he was fighting a guy who despite his level of suckage, had a ton of height and weight on him. I think Alexander did fine all things considered.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:09**

..I thought Povetkin did a very good job CLEARLY winning all 5 rounds..he was staggered all right hit by a boxer well known for his punch..no shame in that...he quickly recovered and continued to dominate..no ambiguity here...

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:11**

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Povetkin did great to recover from that punch, Price is a murderous puncher. Povetkin's stock rose dramatically in front of UK audiences and now he's put himself in the mix, the exact outcome he would've been hoping for.

That's true, everyone has forgotten, that Price still could punch.

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Joshua fought like Wlad tonight, it wasn't exciting, but it was a mature performance.

And here I won't agree. Wlad always had calculated actions. And Joshua sometimes looked like he was unsure, what to do.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:16**

DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:11
BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Povetkin did great to recover from that punch, Price is a murderous puncher. Povetkin's stock rose dramatically in front of UK audiences and now he's put himself in the mix, the exact outcome he would've been hoping for.
That's true, everyone has forgotten, that Price still could punch.

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Joshua fought like Wlad tonight, it wasn't exciting, but it was a mature performance.
And here I won't agree. Wlad always had calculated actions. And Joshua sometimes looked like he was unsure, what to do.

His jab worked better than before, but his right hand was pretty poor today.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:21**

Actually, I thought Povetkin did great. He took a Price bomb right on the chin and didn't go down. That punch would've KO'd a lot of other fighters. His chin is definitely iron.

He beat the living hell out of Price and scored a scary KO.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 19:22**

DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:11
BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Povetkin did great to recover from that punch, Price is a murderous puncher. Povetkin's stock rose dramatically in front of UK audiences and now he's put himself in the mix, the exact outcome he would've been hoping for.
That's true, everyone has forgotten, that Price still could punch.

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Joshua fought like Wlad tonight, it wasn't exciting, but it was a mature performance.
And here I won't agree. Wlad always had calculated actions. And Joshua sometimes looked like he was unsure, what to do.

No he didn’t. It’s exactly how Wlad fought vs Haye

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:03**

DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 18:58
Joshua's performance was more surprising. We shouldn't even talk about his inability to stop Parker, his performance in general was not so good, as it had been reflected on the scorecards.

Performance not good??? .... Did he beat an undefeated Heavyweight Champion???

Was it an upset like Ali suffered versus massive underdogs Norton and Spinks????

Was it a crushing blitz job like massive favorite Joe Frazier suffered versus George Foreman???

Was Joshua beaten to trash and knocked stiff -- like Joe Louis was versus big underdog Max Schmeling???

Was it a 1-punch KO defeat like Lennox Lewis suffered twice against 2 major underdogs???

Was it the greatest upset loss of all time like Mike Tyson suffered against Buster Douglas???

Was it getting embarrassed by a Light Heavyweight twice.... Which happened to Larry Holmes???

Was it a tank job such as previously defeated Jack Johnson admitted to???

Was it getting his ass boxed off like Jack Dempsey???

Was it getting decked 3 X and stopped like happened to Wladimir Klitschko against Joshua???

That's most of the other candidates for #1 ATG Heavyweight Champion... If this is the worst fight Joshua will ever have it was pretty damned good in comparison to many.... Parker fought to survive not win.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:10**

Joshua looked ok, but showed he can be troubled by a good jab and movement. Wilder doesn't exactly fit the good jab department, but he moves around the ring fairly well.

Povetkin definitely looked mediocre, and took a while to be able to get to Price. Got hurt himself at the end of the 3rd. He's definitely a vulnerable older fighter at this point, and is ready to be taken by any of the Top names in the division...and I'm not just talking about Joshua and Wilder.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:11**

Kalan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:03
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 18:58
Joshua's performance was more surprising. We shouldn't even talk about his inability to stop Parker, his performance in general was not so good, as it had been reflected on the scorecards.
Performance not good??? .... Did he beat an undefeated Heavyweight Champion???

Was it an upset like Ali suffered versus massive underdogs Norton and Spinks????

Was it a crushing blitz job like massive favorite Joe Frazier suffered versus George Foreman???

Was Joshua beaten to trash and knocked stiff -- like Joe Louis was versus big underdog Max Schmeling???

Was it a 1-punch KO defeat like Lennox Lewis suffered twice against 2 major underdogs???

Was it the greatest upset loss of all time like Mike Tyson suffered against Buster Douglas???

Was it getting embarrassed by a Light Heavyweight twice.... Which happened to Larry Holmes???

Was it a tank job such as previously defeated Jack Johnson admitted to???

Was it getting his ass boxed off like Jack Dempsey???

Was it getting decked 3 X and stopped like happened to Wladimir Klitschko against Joshua???

That's most of the other candidates for #1 ATG Heavyweight Champion... If this is the worst fight Joshua will ever have it was pretty damned good in comparison to many.... Parker fought to survive not win.

Jesus Christ you get defensive about Anthony Joshua being criticized as if somebody is insulting your child or something.

Don't worry Kalan, AJ still has his belts ok buddy? Now go get your blankie and sippy cup and calm down for the night. You must be tuckered out after that stretch in the middle rounds where he was just looking like a regular 'ol Heavyweight instead of Superman.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:17**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:11
Kalan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:03
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 18:58
Joshua's performance was more surprising. We shouldn't even talk about his inability to stop Parker, his performance in general was not so good, as it had been reflected on the scorecards.
Performance not good??? .... Did he beat an undefeated Heavyweight Champion???

Was it an upset like Ali suffered versus massive underdogs Norton and Spinks????

Was it a crushing blitz job like massive favorite Joe Frazier suffered versus George Foreman???

Was Joshua beaten to trash and knocked stiff -- like Joe Louis was versus big underdog Max Schmeling???

Was it a 1-punch KO defeat like Lennox Lewis suffered twice against 2 major underdogs???

Was it the greatest upset loss of all time like Mike Tyson suffered against Buster Douglas???

Was it getting embarrassed by a Light Heavyweight twice.... Which happened to Larry Holmes???

Was it a tank job such as previously defeated Jack Johnson admitted to???

Was it getting his ass boxed off like Jack Dempsey???

Was it getting decked 3 X and stopped like happened to Wladimir Klitschko against Joshua???

That's most of the other candidates for #1 ATG Heavyweight Champion... If this is the worst fight Joshua will ever have it was pretty damned good in comparison to many.... Parker fought to survive not win.
Jesus Christ you kid defensive about Anthony Joshua being criticized as if somebody is insulting your child or something.

Don't worry Kalan, AJ still has his belts ok buddy? Now go get your blankie and sippy cup and calm down for the night. You must be tuckered out after that stretch in the middle rounds where he was just looking like a regular 'ol Heavyweight instead of Superman.

Dude I think you could of raped his dog and got less response

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:24**

I thought Joshua was fine. Certainly answered questions about his stamina, I know he had things largely his own way, but still did 12 decent rounds.

In rounds 5 and 6 I thought Parker was really coming into the fight and would have liked to have seen him really put in on AJ (easier said than done), but I think he was content with just going the distance towards the end of the fight.

Povetkin was just okay. When Povetkin did get in range, Price was a sitting duck but Povetkin didn't let his hands go and it almost cost him. After the Hammer fight, certainly signs he isn't the fighter he was.

Saying that Whyte should still avoid him, no reason to risk it, considering his ranking with the WBC. The Chisora rematch would make sense, big payday for him and a fight I'd make him a substantial favourite for.

Posted: **31 Mar 2018, 20:32**

TheWizard321 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:24 I thought Joshua was fine. Certainly answered questions about his stamina, I know he had things largely his own way, but still did 12 decent rounds.

In rounds 5 and 6 I thought Parker was really coming into the fight and would have liked to have seen him really put in on AJ (easier said than done), but I think he was content with just going the distance towards the end of the fight.

Povetkin was just okay. When Povetkin did get in range, Price was a sitting duck but Povetkin didn't let his hands go and it almost cost him. After the Hammer fight, certainly signs he isn't the fighter he was.

Saying that Whyte should still avoid him, no reason to risk it, considering his ranking with the WBC. The Chisora rematch would make sense, big payday for him and a fight I'd make him a substantial favourite for.

Whyte and Povetkin is a natural. Neither has the time to wait on the champs. AJ and Wilder are heading for a collision!!!

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 03:56**

[quote=DrDuke post_id=4887922 time=1522537917 user}

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Joshua fought like Wlad tonight, it wasn't exciting, but it was a mature performance.

And here I won't agree. Wlad always had calculated actions. And Joshua sometimes looked like he was unsure, what to do.
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In his 21st fight Wlad was fighting a guy for the second time who was 11 and 6. In his 25th fight he was getting his arse handed to him by Ross Purity. His actions didn't look all that calculated to me. I'm sure AJ will know what to do more and more as he gains experience.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 03:58**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:17
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:11
Kalan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:03

Performance not good??? .... Did he beat an undefeated Heavyweight Champion???

Was it an upset like Ali suffered versus massive underdogs Norton and Spinks????

Was it a crushing blitz job like massive favorite Joe Frazier suffered versus George Foreman???

Was Joshua beaten to trash and knocked stiff -- like Joe Louis was versus big underdog Max Schmeling???

Was it a 1-punch KO defeat like Lennox Lewis suffered twice against 2 major underdogs???

Was it the greatest upset loss of all time like Mike Tyson suffered against Buster Douglas???

Was it getting embarrassed by a Light Heavyweight twice.... Which happened to Larry Holmes???

Was it a tank job such as previously defeated Jack Johnson admitted to???

Was it getting his ass boxed off like Jack Dempsey???

Was it getting decked 3 X and stopped like happened to Wladimir Klitschko against Joshua???

That's most of the other candidates for #1 ATG Heavyweight Champion... If this is the worst fight Joshua will ever have it was pretty damned good in comparison to many.... Parker fought to survive not win.
Jesus Christ you kid defensive about Anthony Joshua being criticized as if somebody is insulting your child or something.

Don't worry Kalan, AJ still has his belts ok buddy? Now go get your blankie and sippy cup and calm down for the night. You must be tuckered out after that stretch in the middle rounds where he was just looking like a regular 'ol Heavyweight instead of Superman.
Dude I think you could of raped his dog and got less response

Is he wrong though?

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 04:40**

candyslim wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 03:58
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:17
gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:11

Jesus Christ you kid defensive about Anthony Joshua being criticized as if somebody is insulting your child or something.

Don't worry Kalan, AJ still has his belts ok buddy? Now go get your blankie and sippy cup and calm down for the night. You must be tuckered out after that stretch in the middle rounds where he was just looking like a regular 'ol Heavyweight instead of Superman.
Dude I think you could of raped his dog and got less response
Is he wrong though?

Good point Candyslim.... Somebody out there thinks before they post...

If the criticism of Joshua isn't valid, it needs to be pointed out... It's not about being defensive... It's about people who stretch like contortionists to find flaws in any present day boxer -- but they attack you like an animal if you point out the faults and myths behind many ATG's of the past.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 04:43**

It's kind of comical for people to be genuinely shocked about the Joshua-Parker bout going the distance considering the vast majority of pundits laboured over the Kiwi's reputed resilience, coupled with most of them predicting either a very late stoppage or a decision victory for the Brit.

The fight played out according to the widespread expectations of the vast majority of experts, but somehow casual fight fans suddenly feel compelled to criticise Anthony Joshua's performance last night, simply because he couldn't stop Joseph Parker?

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 04:53**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 04:43 It's kind of comical for people to be genuinely shocked about the Joshua-Parker bout going the distance considering the vast majority of pundits laboured over the Kiwi's reputed resilience, coupled with most of them predicting either a very late stoppage or a decision victory for the Brit.

The fight played out according to the widespread expectations of the vast majority of experts, but somehow casual fight fans suddenly feel compelled to criticise Anthony Joshua's performance last night, simply because he couldn't stop Joseph Parker?

Actually no, it's not about the inability to KO Parker. It is about far not the brightest performance in general, which was completely exaggerated on the scorecards.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 07:10**

The problem is that some people want Joshua to be something he isn't. He's a big heavyweight with average skills and relatively poor ring nous.

He's getting by on his size at the moment due to a relative lack of good heavyweights in this era. An all time great he isn't and will never be.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 07:17**

ewenhay wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:10 The problem is that some people want Joshua to be something he isn't. He's a big heavyweight with average skills and relatively poor ring nous.

He's getting by on his size at the moment due to a relative lack of good heavyweights in this era. An all time great he isn't and will never be.

That's true, of course, but still the expectations about Parker's conditions were too low, that's why AJ-Parker outcome can still be called surprising.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 07:23**

DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:17
ewenhay wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:10 The problem is that some people want Joshua to be something he isn't. He's a big heavyweight with average skills and relatively poor ring nous.

He's getting by on his size at the moment due to a relative lack of good heavyweights in this era. An all time great he isn't and will never be.
That's true, of course, but still the expectations about Parker's conditions were too low, that's why AJ-Parker outcome can still be called surprising.

People under rated Parker because they over rate Joshua. Joshua isn't that much better than most of the competition really. He's just that bit bigger.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 07:26**

ewenhay wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:23
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:17
ewenhay wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:10 The problem is that some people want Joshua to be something he isn't. He's a big heavyweight with average skills and relatively poor ring nous.

He's getting by on his size at the moment due to a relative lack of good heavyweights in this era. An all time great he isn't and will never be.
That's true, of course, but still the expectations about Parker's conditions were too low, that's why AJ-Parker outcome can still be called surprising.
People under rated Parker because they over rate Joshua. Joshua isn't that much better than most of the competition really. He's just that bit bigger.

Parker also gave a lot of reasons to underrate with his previous title-fights. But, yes, people overrate Joshua in general.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 09:16**

candyslim wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 03:56 [quote=DrDuke post_id=4887922 time=1522537917 user}

BoloPunch wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:08 Joshua fought like Wlad tonight, it wasn't exciting, but it was a mature performance.
And here I won't agree. Wlad always had calculated actions. And Joshua sometimes looked like he was unsure, what to do.

In his 21st fight Wlad was fighting a guy for the second time who was 11 and 6. In his 25th fight he was getting his arse handed to him by Ross Purity. His actions didn't look all that calculated to me. I'm sure AJ will know what to do more and more as he gains experience.
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Looked to me that AJ couldn't figure out how to engage Parker so he took the less risky route and quite easily outpointed him. Lewis did that...many times. Not an AJ fan but let's be fair. He's not an idiot.

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 10:07**

I thought povetkin fought well he did take a count but finished it well , I'm rewatching AJ now and he did struggle with parkers movement

Posted: **01 Apr 2018, 10:08**

ewenhay wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:10 The problem is that some people want Joshua to be something he isn't. He's a big heavyweight with average skills and relatively poor ring nous.

He's getting by on his size at the moment due to a relative lack of good heavyweights in this era. An all time great he isn't and will never be.

Sounds exactly like Wlad Klitschko

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