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It seems to me that the plan is for Whyte to face Povetkin next and they basically just called out Wilder at the same time as telling him they won't fight him, so who is next for Joshua?
Hoping to get come backing Fury early?

Povetkin is mandatory now.

Exoddus wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:26 Povetkin is mandatory now.

After tonight's performance, I believe it will be a real test for AJ. Povetkin won't let AJ coast. Force him to fight. Could be interesting.

Whyte, fair play calling out Povetkin, reckon he could do it - forget Wilder for now, at home hiding behind his cushion

Fury needs 3 fights, 2 bums and a half decent opponent

The Joshua Wilder fight will never be bigger than it is now. Go for it

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:58 The Joshua Wilder fight will never be bigger than it is now. Go for it

Wilder won't

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:58 The Joshua Wilder fight will never be bigger than it is now. Go for it

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:58 The Joshua Wilder fight will never be bigger than it is now. Go for it

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Seriously...it's a case of two willing fighters and one unwilling promoter.

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:13

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Seriously...it's a case of two willing fighters and one unwilling promoter.

Thank you. It's fukcing obvious.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:13

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Seriously...it's a case of two willing fighters and one unwilling promoter.

Thank you. It's fukcing obvious.

THat it is boyo!

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:58 The Joshua Wilder fight will never be bigger than it is now. Go for it

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

You honestly think Wilder is sh@t? And calling Ortiz 52? Why? How? It just doesn't have any sense of reality. Thought you were smarter then that.

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:26

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

You honestly think Wilder is sh@t? And calling Ortiz 52? Why? How? It just doesn't have any sense of reality. Thought you were smarter then that.

I honestly think Wilder is still unproven, shite might be harsh but he hasn't convinced me yet - he has power fair play but you need to go in to the trenches at some point.
Ortiz's real age is dubious and that has been said by many
For the record, a fit Fury beats both - I think Whyte gives Wilder his toughest test and even AJ to a degree now as he has massively improved

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:41

oogiebe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:26

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:23

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

You honestly think Wilder is sh@t? And calling Ortiz 52? Why? How? It just doesn't have any sense of reality. Thought you were smarter then that.

I honestly think Wilder is still unproven, shite might be harsh but he hasn't convinced me yet - he has power fair play but you need to go in to the trenches at some point.
Ortiz's real age is dubious and that has been said by many
For the record, a fit Fury beats both - I think Whyte gives Wilder his toughest test and even AJ to a degree now as he has massively improved

Ok, that I can accept. Whyte is not in the league of AJ and Wilder and maybe not Parker. He's overrated IMHO. Wilder will continue to be learning as he is still raw which makes him all the more interesting and fun to watch. Anyone who has a lights out punch is a dangerous opponent. I actually liked seeing AJ go the distance. He pulled a Lennox Lewis...why take risks when I can win fairly easily. PS: Ortiz age is legit. So is Wlad. Thanks for the reply...well done.

Wilder has the physical attributes to steamroll Joshua, I think it'll be the pressure that undoes him. I'd back him if they fought in a small hall. As it is, I'd make Joshua the 1/3 favourite.

Wilder has the weaker chin from what we've seen, but faster recovery unless you flatten him. I don't mean to compare Joshua to Bruno for the millionth time...

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:09

Wilder won't

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

Ortiz was 38 and an undefeated Olympian.
You give Joshua a pass for beating a 41 year old exchamp who hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
You're a real piece of work with your twists

Ortiz could be anywhere from 38 to his mid-forties, but I think it's enough to have a ballpark range. I.e. yes, he'd probably have fared better had he been 30, but he wasn't. And he was quite good.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:52

rossij8 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:10

Hearn won't
Stop believing the lies

Wilder fought a fat tomato can in Stiverne and took his first real risk in his career against a 52 year old Oztiz, who he knew would gas. If he engaged if he did might get KOed, close he nearly did

No lies, why would they? Wilder is shite, one punch and awkward cos he's shite, nothing else

Ortiz was 38 and an undefeated Olympian.
You give Joshua a pass for beating a 41 year old exchamp who hadn't won a fight in 2 years.
You're a real piece of work with your twists

No twists, Wilder will come undone once he fights a proper HW who isn't going to gas

No pass for Joshua, I agree with what you say IMO Fury beats him if fit

And Wilder .

I assumed (or hoped) Joshua would fight Povetkin next, Wilder would fight Whyte next, and the winners would meet.

I think Povitkin will beat Joshua.
If Joshua can't land his jab or right hand consistently on Parker, what chance does he have with Povitkin?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 21:14 I think Povitkin will beat Joshua.
If Joshua can't land his jab or right hand consistently on Parker, what chance does he have with Povitkin?

IDK Kiwi...Parker not engaging enough makes it tough on the other guy to look good. Povetkin doesn't move nearly as much as Parker but has way more power. I'd love to see it, but after Joshua/Wilder.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 21:14 I think Povitkin will beat Joshua.
If Joshua can't land his jab or right hand consistently on Parker, what chance does he have with Povitkin?

Joshua will smash Povetkin, too small and too old.

Povetkin would be a real test for anyone. He can bang and has a chin.

samwbr wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 05:35

KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 21:14 I think Povitkin will beat Joshua.
If Joshua can't land his jab or right hand consistently on Parker, what chance does he have with Povitkin?

Joshua will smash Povetkin, too small and too old.

Sam...what did you predict for Joshua/Parker?

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 09:29

samwbr wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 05:35

KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 21:14 I think Povitkin will beat Joshua.
If Joshua can't land his jab or right hand consistently on Parker, what chance does he have with Povitkin?

Joshua will smash Povetkin, too small and too old.

Sam...what did you predict for Joshua/Parker?

That he'd win