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Deontay Wilder - disgraceful comments during a radio interview on Friday morning.

He was asked about having sympathy for his opponents....

“Nah, no dice. Like, I don’t wanna kill somebody for a few seconds”
Wilder turned to the co-host Angela Yee and continued

“I want a body on my record. I want one. I want one. I really do.”

Boxing needs characters and controversy, but that’s crossing the line.

Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

It's all talk.

Nothing new, very few things are in this sport.
Really shitty thing to say though, almost childish. Mind you so is the whole yelling “Bomb squad”.

Good interview from last week below with a British boxer whose opponent died in the ring last year...

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... ll-glasgow

tbh, everyone always says fighters must feel awful if theyve killed someone, but should we really be so sure?

often fighters are rough arrogant people and killing someone in the ring is a huge sign of profiency of there ability. of how devestating they can be.

of course a lot may come out and say they feel bad because thats what public standards require, but i dunno man, i really would be surprised if there werent who didnt feel proud about it or 'bigger' men in some way having done it.

Boxing is a blood sport , people love to see knockouts . A fatality would be awesome to see until the excitement wears off and you realise someone’s wife and kids just lost their father.

So really we don’t need people to die just knocked out is enough.

I was worried about Stiverne his health when he fought Wilder actually, Povetkin could probably have killed him with his power.

I guess Wilder will get suspended by the WBC soon.
This guy:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=219514
Also got suspended, while he tweeted something much less painfull.

Several boxers said they wanted to kill somebody... Jimmy Ellis said, "I'm going to try to beat the next guy that I fight to death." .... He was dead serious... He was in a foul mood after the Patterson fight.

Larry Holmes was so angry at Trevor Berbick that he wanted him dead... Sometimes it doesn't matter that you might go to prison and get life... You don't care. You just want to get the MFer and get rid of him .... get him off the planet.

It like gun slingers in the Old West... Dueling was legal and it was dead serious... One of the 2 men were going to die... Many people would say "THAT'S INSANE!!!" .... Maybe not... Some people are Cold Blooded Killers and are willing to risk their very lives to satisfy their blood lust... One sport that can relieve a little bit of that tension is Boxing.

In Medieval Times men dueled to the death with swords... They weren't paid for it... They did it... The possible reward of shedding another man's blood was enough... It's exciting and thrilling to some people... Why do drive by shootings happen?? Why are there gang wars and "War Zones" in inner cities?? Why do we have so many mass shootings??

In the hearts of bad asses are many evil desires.. I never liked the roar of the crowd when an opponent starts tottering and stumbling around the ring.. "GET HIM... GET HIM... KILL HIM.... KILL HIM!!" ... It's your job. You have to put the sword in... I guess it's tasty for some people, but many boxers hate it.

If you've ever talked to a stranger in a bar who related a story about killing somebody...he's a liar, but that's his fantasy.. He'd LIKE to kill somebody.. I had a friend who was in and out of prison and an ex-police officer.. He was a big time drug dealer.. I'm pretty sure he oft a few people.. He showed me a bullet wound.

One day I got a call from another buddy "Mac is dead" .... I said "We both knew it" .... He got mad "MAC IS DEAD MAN!! AK 47.." I said "We warned him." He hung up on me.. I told him this was going to happen for years.. It left me cold.. You live by the sword. You die by the sword... You can't save some guys.. I've had people tell me point blank "I know I'm going to Hell." .... "Well, do you know how long Eternity is?" .... "It's forever." ... "Yeah. think about that when you get a minute."

I just heard Scott Westgarth saved about seven lives with his organs.

Well, Wilder destroyed Povetkin his life with his actions, for me it's sad to hear it's usually the bad guys that survive.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 03:55 I just heard Scott Westgarth saved about seven lives with his organs.

Well, Wilder destroyed Povetkin his life with his actions, for me it's sad to hear it's usually the bad guys that survive.

Wilder is a low life, but i doubt that it was actually him that had anything to do with standing Povetkin up that time, or the spurious drug charge they conjured up to lend it cover.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

True. Wilder is a hard guy to like with his personality, and with the stupid things he says. I like watching his fights though, as I did the others you mentioned. Floyd and Ali probably had the most haters world-wide in their eras, but people paid to watch hoping they would lose.
I guess this is Wilder's poor attempt to be the villain so he can at least gain that for popularity.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

Did they?

I'm aware of Tyson saying controversial things, but I don't recall him ever saying that he wanted to actually kill someone. The same applies to Liston and Foreman.

I'd be intrigued to be proven wrong and read any quotes you can provide to prove what they said.

Boxers saying controversial things isn't new, but going as far as hoping that they actually kill someone, well that's unfamiliar territory, because I don't recall any fighter saying that ever... and it's not the sort of thing you'd easily forget either.

It seems that Wilder is desperate enough to "say" anything to promote himself, but he's too lazy to actually "do" anything to enhance his commercial marketability.

Wilder is waiting for all the opportunities to come to him without bothering to lift a finger to actually make things happen.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 07:14

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

Did they?

I'm aware of Tyson saying controversial things, but I don't recall him ever saying that he wanted to actually kill someone. The same applies to Liston and Foreman.

I'd be intrigued to be proven wrong and read any quotes you can provide to prove what they said.

Boxers saying controversial things isn't new, but going as far as hoping that they actually kill someone, well that's unfamiliar territory, because I don't recall any fighter saying that ever... and it's not the sort of thing you'd easily forget either.

It seems that Wilder is desperate enough to "say" anything to promote himself, but he's too lazy to actually "do" anything to enhance his commercial marketability.

Wilder is waiting for all the opportunities to come to him without bothering to lift a finger to actually make things happen.

Please do a quick Google search and you can see their quotes.
George discusses this on several interviews including once on the 700 club.
Tyson talks about wanting to drive the nose of his opponent into their brain.
Liston said similar.

..idiotic but not unexpected..

Yeah, Tyson said some crazy stuff about how he'd kill his opponent and their kids. Nothing to see here.

It's all tactical. A fighter may tend to be off his game if he thinks his opponent is trying to murder him. I've told someone I was going to kill him thinking we were going to fight. However, I couldn't murder anyone. These are things combatants might say when fired up.

He's just trying to generate attention, because he has no real following.

Unfortunately his act is pretty paper thin, and nobody really buys into it.

Apparently he's quite softly spoken and articulate in real life, the whole shtick is pretty poor.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 09:12 He's just trying to generate attention, because he has no real following.

Unfortunately his act is pretty paper thin, and nobody really buys into it.

Apparently he's quite softly spoken and articulate in real life, the whole shtick is pretty poor.

Really? He has no real following?

jamamb wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:33 tbh, everyone always says fighters must feel awful if theyve killed someone, but should we really be so sure?

often fighters are rough arrogant people and killing someone in the ring is a huge sign of profiency of there ability. of how devestating they can be.

of course a lot may come out and say they feel bad because thats what public standards require, but i dunno man, i really would be surprised if there werent who didnt feel proud about it or 'bigger' men in some way having done it.

I don't think anybody other than psychopaths can kill someone without the inevitable feeling of having ended another's life.

It's just how humans are wired.

I've known a few soldiers in my time, and a few of them told me they would still see the faces of the first few people they shot in combat. After a while, they said you become hardened to it, but that the first time is an awful experience, full of shame and guilt.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 09:15

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 09:12 He's just trying to generate attention, because he has no real following.

Unfortunately his act is pretty paper thin, and nobody really buys into it.

Apparently he's quite softly spoken and articulate in real life, the whole shtick is pretty poor.

Really? He has no real following?

No, he doesn't, that's why his purses are so small, he's not very popular.

Do you follow boxing?

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

The irony is such an event could smother a fighter's aggressiveness moving forward. Careful what you wish for...

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

I don't think anyone should say it.
But it is nothing new. Some people have no moral compass

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:26

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

The irony is such an event could smother a fighter's aggressiveness moving forward. Careful what you wish for...

You are so right. Ray Mancini was not the same fighter after du ku kim

tiny_acres wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:39

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:23

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 22:06 Sonny Liston
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
All said the same thing. Disgusting and lacking class. But nothing new in boxing

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

I don't think anyone should say it.
But it is nothing new. Some people have no moral compass

Agreed, no one should. Do you remember when Foreman said it? I don't.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:54

tiny_acres wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:39

Tony1244 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:23

I don't remember Foreman saying it, but he may have.

I don't think Wilder should say that.

I don't think anyone should say it.
But it is nothing new. Some people have no moral compass

Agreed, no one should. Do you remember when Foreman said it? I don't.

Do a Google search. He discusses this in several interviews. It was said to be his biggest regret of his career