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Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 13:38**

How do you SEE the Miller V. Johann Duhaupas fight go?
How do you WANT to see the Miller V. Johann Duhaupas fight go?

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 13:39**

I see it as a late stoppage or DEC by Miller.

I would love to see Duhaupas do away with Big Baby.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 13:53**

I have no doubt that Miller wins, but leaving aside the ultra-short notice Povetkin debacle, Duhaupas is tough if nothing else, so for me the only thing I'm not sure about is whether Big Baby gets the job done inside the distance or not.

It's good for the division if Miller wins so I hope he does.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 13:57**

Miller by KO in 7.

Duhaupas is on the way down. Miller motivated by possible Joshua fight.

He'll be in shape and come in under a svelte 290.

One sided. Duhaupas doesn't win a round.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 15:32**

SenorPipino wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:57 Miller by KO in 7.

Duhaupas is on the way down. Miller motivated by possible Joshua fight.

He'll be in shape and come in under a svelte 290.

One sided. Duhaupas doesn't win a round.

I see it tge same way.
Miller is a lard-ass but he's not bad at all.
He gives anyone in the top 10 a run for their money

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 15:33**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:32
SenorPipino wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:57 Miller by KO in 7.

Duhaupas is on the way down. Miller motivated by possible Joshua fight.

He'll be in shape and come in under a svelte 290.

One sided. Duhaupas doesn't win a round.
I see it tge same way.
Miller is a lard-ass but he's not bad at all.
He gives anyone in the top 10 a run for their money

Not bad but WON'T give anyone in the top 5 a run for their money. IMHO. I think he sucks.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 15:35**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:33
tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:32
SenorPipino wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:57 Miller by KO in 7.

Duhaupas is on the way down. Miller motivated by possible Joshua fight.

He'll be in shape and come in under a svelte 290.

One sided. Duhaupas doesn't win a round.
I see it tge same way.
Miller is a lard-ass but he's not bad at all.
He gives anyone in the top 10 a run for their money
Not bad but WON'T give anyone in the top 5 a run for their money. IMHO. I think he sucks.

I'd have to disagree with you for once.

He can compete with any of them

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 15:37**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:33
tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:32

I see it tge same way.
Miller is a lard-ass but he's not bad at all.
He gives anyone in the top 10 a run for their money
Not bad but WON'T give anyone in the top 5 a run for their money. IMHO. I think he sucks.
I'd have to disagree with you for once.
He can compete with any of them

Believe me, I'm so slanted on him, I'd take Molina over him!
lololol!

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 16:31**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:37
tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:33

Not bad but WON'T give anyone in the top 5 a run for their money. IMHO. I think he sucks.
I'd have to disagree with you for once.
He can compete with any of them
Believe me, I'm so slanted on him, I'd take Molina over him!
lololol!

Big Baby's all right. Surprising speed for his size.

But he looked pooped against Washington and you have to wonder if he can carry the weight comfortably at the very top level.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 16:40**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:39 I see it as a late stoppage or DEC by Miller.

I would love to see Duhaupas do away with Big Baby.

I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 16:41**

Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:40
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:39 I see it as a late stoppage or DEC by Miller.

I would love to see Duhaupas do away with Big Baby.
I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.

I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 16:49**

Don't really care to be honest. If it's a decision I'd expect Miller to win since he is being built up as the next AJ opponent. A betting man will pick Miller.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 17:03**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:37
tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:33

Not bad but WON'T give anyone in the top 5 a run for their money. IMHO. I think he sucks.
I'd have to disagree with you for once.
He can compete with any of them
Believe me, I'm so slanted on him, I'd take Molina over him!
lololol!

If Miller beats Duhaupas on top of Washington and Wach, it'd be insanity to pick a sh*t like Molina to beat him. If nothing else, Miller is nearly 300 pounds, and has way more power and toughness than other tough guys like Washington. It may not be obvious to you, watching on tv; but to the other guy sharing the ring with Miller, Miller is like an actual tank. Gerald Washington is 6' 6", 82" wingspan, 248 pounds; and Miller ran over him like a speed bump.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 17:05**

Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 17:03
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:37
tiny_acres wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 15:35

I'd have to disagree with you for once.
He can compete with any of them
Believe me, I'm so slanted on him, I'd take Molina over him!
lololol!
If Miller beats Duhaupas on top of Washington and Wach, it'd be insanity to pick a sh*t like Molina to beat him. If nothing else, Miller is nearly 300 pounds, and has way more power and toughness than other tough guys like Washington. It may not be obvious to you, watching on tv; but to the other guy sharing the ring with Miller, Miller is like an actual tank.

Hey...quick draw...I was making an exaggerated point of how much I hate the man Miller, Please read and understand before posting replies. The thread was what do you expect and what do you want. I expect Miller to win...I would like to see Duhaupas win. Comprende?

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 23:28**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:41
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:40
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:39 I see it as a late stoppage or DEC by Miller.

I would love to see Duhaupas do away with Big Baby.
I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.
I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.

Miller is the best American Heavyweight... He'll stop Duhaupas quicker than Wilder... Hate to disappoint you.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 23:41**

I think Duhaupus left something in the ring against Povetkin. That wasn't a normal KO. He almost got killed. I think Miller takes this. Duhaupus probably gets into his turtle and survives.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 23:49**

candyslim wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:53 I have no doubt that Miller wins, but leaving aside the ultra-short notice Povetkin debacle, Duhaupas is tough if nothing else, so for me the only thing I'm not sure about is whether Big Baby gets the job done inside the distance or not.

It's good for the division if Miller wins so I hope he does.

Wilder was also an ultra short notice fight for him.

Posted: **07 Apr 2018, 23:55**

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:41
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:40
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:39 I see it as a late stoppage or DEC by Miller.

I would love to see Duhaupas do away with Big Baby.
I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.
I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.

Do you know him personally, Boogy Woogy man?

I was high on Miller before the Wach fight. I thought he was very good and i liked his funny baby schtick (boxing morphs into wrestling!). But his stock went down for me in that fight. I thought that he was wide open for a KO right, but Wach, out of shape and injured, couldn't take advantage of it.

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 00:00**

Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 23:28
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:41
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:40

I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.
I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.
Miller is the best American Heavyweight... He'll stop Duhaupas quicker than Wilder... Hate to disappoint you.

Why would you say that? Wach would've beaten him had he tried to show up in shape. Miller was horrifically bad against Wach.

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 01:54**

Weighing around 290lbs at 6ft 4 is crazy. Wouldnt think it possible for a professional athlete. He must work hard to keep that weight on

He beats Duhaupas: probably in a very uninspiring fight .

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 03:19**

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 00:00
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 23:28
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:41

I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.
Miller is the best American Heavyweight... He'll stop Duhaupas quicker than Wilder... Hate to disappoint you.
Why would you say that? Wach would've beaten him had he tried to show up in shape. Miller was horrifically bad against Wach.

Okay.... so if you're that horrifically bad a Heavyweight - but you're still 20-0 with 18 KO victories.... And you stopped former Heavyweight Title Challengers Gerald Washington and Mariusz Wach in your last 2 fights... What are you going to accomplish when when you actually start learning something about Boxing???

One thing that sets Miller back a little is his age. He's going to be 30 in 3 months... This is his 10th year as a pro so that's 2 fights a year on average... Mike Tyson fought 28 fights in his first 18 months as pro and won the Heavyweight Title... MIke fit 56 fights into his 20-year career taking 4 years off for prison... He had a couple bans from Boxing and a few idle years.

That's what you can do if you get a head start and get 30 fights in your first 2 years... You shouldn't be doing a damned thing but training and fighting... You should know what you're doing by then and making money so you can relax the pace a bit... Some of these guys are 30 to 35 years old and they're still trying learn the game because they're not getting any fights... And even a lot of guys with World Titles it seems to be difficult for them to get meaningful fights.

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 03:36**

Kalan wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 03:19
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 00:00
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 23:28

Miller is the best American Heavyweight... He'll stop Duhaupas quicker than Wilder... Hate to disappoint you.
Why would you say that? Wach would've beaten him had he tried to show up in shape. Miller was horrifically bad against Wach.
Okay.... so if you're that horrifically bad a Heavyweight - but you're still 20-0 with 18 KO victories.... And you stopped former Heavyweight Title Challengers Gerald Washington and Mariusz Wach in your last 2 fights... What are you going to accomplish when when you actually start learning something about Boxing???

One thing that sets Miller back a little is his age. He's going to be 30 in 3 months... This is his 10th year as a pro so that's 2 fights a year on average... Mike Tyson fought 28 fights in his first 18 months as pro and won the Heavyweight Title... MIke fit 56 fights into his 20-year career taking 4 years off for prison... He had a couple bans from Boxing and a few idle years.

That's what you can do if you get a head start and get 30 fights in your first 2 years... You shouldn't be doing a damned thing but training and fighting... You should know what you're doing by then and making money so you can relax the pace a bit... Some of these guys are 30 to 35 years old and they're still trying learn the game because they're not getting any fights... And even a lot of guys with World Titles it seems to be difficult for them to get meaningful fights.

To be fair the reason Miller only had 20 pro boxing fights since 2009 is because he kept switching between competing in professional boxing and top level K1. Since 2009 he has also amassed a 22-2 record in K1. His only 2 losses in that discipline came against Cro-Cop.

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 06:41**

x2x wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 23:49
candyslim wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 13:53 I have no doubt that Miller wins, but leaving aside the ultra-short notice Povetkin debacle, Duhaupas is tough if nothing else, so for me the only thing I'm not sure about is whether Big Baby gets the job done inside the distance or not.

It's good for the division if Miller wins so I hope he does.

Wilder was also an ultra short notice fight for him.

Is that right I didn't know that. Duhaupas was impressive against Wilder but Povetkin crushed him like a roach. I know enough about Wilder to not be so foolish as to draw any conclusion from that comparison.

I really like Jarrell Miller. He's got a winner's mouth. What I mean by that is when you trash talk like he does, you'd better be able to back it up, and so far he's done just that. Stiffer tests aren't far away but he certainly doesn't appear to lack for self-belief. People look at his bulk and see a fat slob who is no threat to an athlete, but I see a relentless front foot fighter with good speed, a decent chin, and a surpringly impressive engine. He isn't the hardest of punchers but he throws a lot of them and just keeps walking you down. I can't justify ranking him above Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin, or Pulev based on achievement, but I see him as having an excellent chance against the 2018 version of any one of them, although I think the three old timers would be too much for him in their prime.

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 07:57**

Miller by KO

Posted: **08 Apr 2018, 10:08**

x2x wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 23:55
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:41
Kalan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2018, 16:40

I know you would -- but you WON'T.... Big Baby will destroy Duhaupas and get rid of him in 5 to 8 rounds.
I figure he's gone late, but I dislike MIller (personally) and would love the nice guy Duhaupas take it.
Do you know him personally, Boogy Woogy man?

I was high on Miller before the Wach fight. I thought he was very good and i liked his funny baby schtick (boxing morphs into wrestling!). But his stock went down for me in that fight. I thought that he was wide open for a KO right, but Wach, out of shape and injured, couldn't take advantage of it.

I agree, but disagree on the baby schtick as you say. Miller is not so good and is, in fact, wide open for power punches. He also needs to keep his baby mouth shut.

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