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after fights when any fighter mentions a factor that they think mightve impaired there performam, like breaking a hand etc, you get ppl screaming 'excuse!!!' like simply bringing the factor up was some awful, terrible act

but surely there are legit factors that can get in the way of things, so when/what is okay to mention?

whats so bad about revealing that you were injured etc

Every fighter comes up with an excuse after a loss. They would need to prove it was actually injured and it cost them the fight. Not like rigos hand injury or the infamous haye toe, which made him the perennial laughing stock of boxing.

jamamb wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 09:43 whats so bad about revealing that you were injured etc

If it's obvious, you don't need to mention it. Like Haye's Achilles.. We knew it was gone, however... He didn't bring it up at all in the post fight..

Sometimes, we can see when a boxer has hurt his hand, either they throw less or not throw at all..

It's like Joshua vs. Parker.. AJ was unable to use his right hand much, some posters on here assumed he may have broken it.. But he later said that he was just unable to throw because of Parker's movement.

I think we, as fans, should know the difference between fair excuse and over exaggerating..

I think Haye's toe was fair..

I think fighters use excuses as a way to tell themselves that they didn't beat the best version of them. Boxing is a sport where your mental state plays a massive part so fighters use excuses so in their own mind the best version of themself would not of beaten

Its been said by many a fighter that they normally carry some sort of injury into every fight. Plus of course its natural to want to make excuses if you lose. I think if a fighter has an obvious injury that affects their ability to fight then that can be seen as a fair excuse. Haye fighting one legged against Bellew is a good example, not his lame toe excuse for the Klit fight because he looked fine, he was beaten fair and square.

A hurt toe

Kell Brook against Spence Jr.
Kell knew the consequences of his injury after going through it once before.
Going possibly blind in one eye would have been enough for most.
Most things like broken hands or jaws can be fixed, eyes can't.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 21:08 Kell Brook against Spence Jr.
Kell knew the consequences of his injury after going through it once before.
Going possibly blind in one eye would have been enough for most.
Most things like broken hands or jaws can be fixed, eyes can't.

I think although Brook was injured, he lost the fight because Spence was just better than him. Spence beats him no matter what.

Brook was talking sh*t after the Trip G fight saying his eye going was the reason he lost. He flat out quit against Spence.He was probably 30 seconds away from being starched vs Golovkin.

His eyes were clearly injured for sure and I'm not saying he shouldn't have quit but they can't be used as excuses for why he lost the fight.

Luke Campbell didn’t use it as an excuse, and boxed very well anyway, but his dad dying just before fight week was pretty bad. He cried every night in the lead up to the fight.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 04:17 Luke Campbell didn’t use it as an excuse, and boxed very well anyway, but his dad dying just before fight week was pretty bad. He cried every night in the lead up to the fight.

I guess some people could use a tragedy as motivation though, Buster Douglas springs to mind.

"̶M̶y̶ ̶c̶h̶e̶m̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶o̶s̶e̶"̶ Er, I mean "Weight-cutting issues/tainted meat/I've got a therapeutic use exemption certificate!"

Datsue wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 05:36 "̶M̶y̶ ̶c̶h̶e̶m̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶o̶s̶e̶"̶ Er, I mean "Weight-cutting issues/tainted meat/I've got a therapeutic use exemption certificate!"

Yeah, injuries are one thing but excuses for drugs are never reasonable. Drug cheats like Canelo and Fury need to be called out for what they are and all the 'I eat a lot of uncastrated boar/Mexican meat' joke excuses can be dismissed.

A fair excuse is when a fighter is harshly or unluckily disqualified.

I love listening to fighters and their fans come up with the most insane excuses.
It's funny.
Some excuses like the big toe are classics

Birmingham's Lloyd Hibbert once used the excuse that he had locked himself 'in' his house when he failed to show up for a fight.

Was disappointed in david lemieux when saunders schooled him.he made excuse gave saunders no credit.

but lets say an interviewer asks a fighter who lost '×what went wrong in there', and the fighter acknowledges his opponents performance but also mentions that he broke his best hand and was in terrible pain anytime he threw it, lets assume he really did break it

is that fair enough to mention?

When the ref docks points unnecessarily (on occasion) that can end up costing a win- that’s a legitimate excuse

In complete contrast to those fighters seeking to justify why they got beat:

Tommy Hearns NOT mentioning that he broke his right hand in the 1st round of the epic Hagler fight because he and Manny Steward thought it should be Marvin’s moment.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 23:10

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Apr 2018, 21:08 Kell Brook against Spence Jr.
Kell knew the consequences of his injury after going through it once before.
Going possibly blind in one eye would have been enough for most.
Most things like broken hands or jaws can be fixed, eyes can't.

I think although Brook was injured, he lost the fight because Spence was just better than him. Spence beats him no matter what.

Brook was talking sh*t after the Trip G fight saying his eye going was the reason he lost. He flat out quit against Spence.He was probably 30 seconds away from being starched vs Golovkin.

His eyes were clearly injured for sure and I'm not saying he shouldn't have quit but they can't be used as excuses for why he lost the fight.

I had Brook winning and Spence looking anything but a super star till the last couple of rds by which time I presume Brooks injury had happened.

I mean if a guy goes down, and sprains his ankle or twists his knee or something like that, and spends the rest of the fight limping around on a noticeably injured knee that didn't happen until the fight was already in progress...I think that's one of the few reasonable excuses a guy could have. Because that's just kinda a freak injury.

If you're bringing the injury into the ring with you. No excuses

If you were sick or "not feeling well" the week of the fight, and you fought anyway. No excuses

If you break your hand in the fight...I hate it for you, but...No excuses.

That being said if a guy that had a broken hand lost a competitive fight, I'd be down with him getting a rematch.